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1. 10:53 AM - J.B. Weld on rudder (Greg C)
2. 11:22 AM - Re: J.B. Weld on rudder (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
3. 11:39 AM - Re: J.B. Weld on rudder (Scott R. Shook)
4. 12:18 PM - Re: J.B. Weld on rudder (B Tomm)
5. 04:20 PM - Re: J.B. Weld on rudder (Imken)
6. 04:54 PM - Re: J.B. Weld on rudder (Dan Checkoway)
7. 08:03 PM - Re: J.B. Weld on rudder (Dave Nellis)
8. 10:47 PM - Re: J.B. Weld on rudder (Gerry Filby)
9. 11:33 PM - Re: J.B. Weld on rudder (Dan Checkoway)
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| Subject: | J.B. Weld on rudder |
Hi,
I am wondering if j.b. weld can be used on the trailing edge of the rudder.
Thanks,
Greg
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| Subject: | J.B. Weld on rudder |
I think you can use almost anything as long as it doesn't set up too
fast and sticks to aluminium
I used Vulkem 116 caulking ($2 a tube at home depot and others). Its
what pretty much all building contractors use for sealing just about
anything and sticks like ...just say it sticks very well and would
presumably be much cheaper than JB weld unless you have a bunch of it
aleady.. The downfall with Vulkem is it takes a few days to set up
properly...I just left mine clamped for a week while I worked on
something else.
Have fun
Frank
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[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg C
Subject: RV7-List: J.B. Weld on rudder
Hi,
I am wondering if j.b. weld can be used on the trailing edge of the
rudder.
Thanks,
Greg
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| Subject: | J.B. Weld on rudder |
I didn't use a thing and got my TE to .05" run-out max.
Scott
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[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg C
Subject: RV7-List: J.B. Weld on rudder
Hi,
I am wondering if j.b. weld can be used on the trailing edge of the rudder.
Thanks,
Greg
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| Subject: | J.B. Weld on rudder |
I think the important question besides ability to "stick" is the long term
corrosion effects if any. Anyone know about JB Weld and thin aircraft
aluminum sheet?
Bevan
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[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hinde, Frank
George (Corvallis)
Subject: RE: RV7-List: J.B. Weld on rudder
I think you can use almost anything as long as it doesn't set up too fast
and sticks to aluminium
I used Vulkem 116 caulking ($2 a tube at home depot and others). Its what
pretty much all building contractors use for sealing just about anything and
sticks like ...just say it sticks very well and would presumably be much
cheaper than JB weld unless you have a bunch of it aleady.. The downfall
with Vulkem is it takes a few days to set up properly...I just left mine
clamped for a week while I worked on something else.
Have fun
Frank
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[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg C
Subject: RV7-List: J.B. Weld on rudder
Hi,
I am wondering if j.b. weld can be used on the trailing edge of the rudder.
Thanks,
Greg
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| Subject: | J.B. Weld on rudder |
You can, but you dont need to. I, and a few others, did not use anything
except rivets on the trailing edge. If you use anything at all, I suggest
Pro Seal or RTV. JB Weld sets up in 5 minutestoo fast.
Chuck Imken
N735RV
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From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Greg C
Subject: RV7-List: J.B. Weld on rudder
Hi,
I am wondering if j.b. weld can be used on the trailing edge of the rudder.
Thanks,
Greg
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| Subject: | Re: J.B. Weld on rudder |
My 2 cents -- DO NOT use RTV, it's not paintable. Whatever you use, a little is
gonna ooze out. Make sure you can paint it!
Paint & silicone don't get along.
I had a folded rudder, but on the RV-10 rudder that I built I used a thin smear
of proseal. FWIW, it worked great.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Imken
To: rv7-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 4:14 PM
Subject: RE: RV7-List: J.B. Weld on rudder
You can, but you don't need to. I, and a few others, did not use anything except
rivets on the trailing edge. If you use anything at all, I suggest Pro Seal
or RTV. JB Weld sets up in 5 minutes-too fast.
Chuck Imken
N735RV
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From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Greg C
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 12:53 PM
To: rv7-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV7-List: J.B. Weld on rudder
Hi,
I am wondering if j.b. weld can be used on the trailing edge of the rudder.
Thanks,
Greg
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| Subject: | J.B. Weld on rudder |
--> RV7-List message posted by: Dave Nellis <truflite@yahoo.com>
I clamped an aluminum angle to the rudder just inside
of the the trailing edge rivet line. I did not use
Proseal or any other sealant. My rudder is less than
.050 out of straight. I may smear some Proseal on the
trailing edge before paint just to fill between the
layers. Haven't decided for sure yet.
Dave Nellis
N410DN (Res.)
--- Imken <skikrazi@centurytel.net> wrote:
> You can, but you dont need to. I, and a few
> others, did not use anything
> except rivets on the trailing edge. If you use
> anything at all, I suggest
> Pro Seal or RTV. JB Weld sets up in 5 minutestoo
> fast.
> Chuck Imken
> N735RV
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com]On
> Behalf Of Greg C
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 12:53 PM
> To: rv7-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV7-List: J.B. Weld on rudder
>
> Hi,
>
> I am wondering if j.b. weld can be used on the
> trailing edge of the rudder.
>
> Thanks,
> Greg
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| Subject: | J.B. Weld on rudder |
--> RV7-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
Background question ... what problem is all the sticky stuff
(Pro-Seal, Silcone goop, epoxy, etc.) solving ?
g
>
> --> RV7-List message posted by: Dave Nellis <truflite@yahoo.com>
>
> I clamped an aluminum angle to the rudder just inside
> of the the trailing edge rivet line. I did not use
> Proseal or any other sealant. My rudder is less than
> ..050 out of straight. I may smear some Proseal on the
> trailing edge before paint just to fill between the
> layers. Haven't decided for sure yet.
>
> Dave Nellis
> N410DN (Res.)
>
>
> --- Imken <skikrazi@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
> > You can, but you dont need to. I, and a few
> > others, did not use anything
> > except rivets on the trailing edge. If you use
> > anything at all, I suggest
> > Pro Seal or RTV. JB Weld sets up in 5 minutestoo
> > fast.
> > Chuck Imken
> > N735RV
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com]On
> > Behalf Of Greg C
> > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 12:53 PM
> > To: rv7-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RV7-List: J.B. Weld on rudder
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am wondering if j.b. weld can be used on the
> > trailing edge of the rudder.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Greg
> > _____
> >
> > songs. Try it free.
> >
> <http://pa.yahoo.com/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt6035/*http://music.yahoo.c
> > om/unlimited/>
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: J.B. Weld on rudder |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> Background question ... what problem is all the sticky stuff
> (Pro-Seal, Silcone goop, epoxy, etc.) solving ?
You can't cleco the thing while you rivet it. The proseal keeps everything
in alignment while you rivet.
I built the RV-10 rudder (same trailing edge as the modern -7/-9 rudder) and
had all my rivets oriented the same way. I didn't use any angle or anything
like that. Just prosealed it, then riveted it a few days later. It came
out perfectly straight, no puckering at the back end either. The key was to
take it slowly and go in phases. Partially set every 4th or 5th rivet, then
go back and finish them. At the risk of work-hardening the rivets, it
prevents bowing, I believe, to go in phases. Heck, that's what the
instructions said to do, so why not?
I think some people advocate clecoing it to an angle, alternating
orientations of rivets, something like that (is that in the RV-7 rudder
instructions?). If you use a construction method that allows you to keep it
clecoed while you rivet, then I think the goop is not a necessity in the
least.
Just my take on it.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
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