---------------------------------------------------------- RV7-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 11/19/05: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:45 PM - A very bad day at the airport (Merems) 2. 01:09 PM - Re: A very bad day at the airport (Mark Burns) 3. 02:23 PM - Re: A very bad day at the airport (Franz Fux) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:45:21 PM PST US From: "Merems" Subject: RV7-List: A very bad day at the airport INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.0000 1.0000 -4.4912 Fellow builders, I want to share with you a very bad day at the airport. I was attending a pancake breakfast with our local EAA chapter at La Cholla Airpark just north of Tucson AZ. A dozen or so aircraft arrived and another two dozen or so visitors arrived for a wonderful morning of food and airplanes. One of the aircraft that arrived was a turbine Legend (composite, high performance aircraft). It announced it's arrival with a high speed flyby and landed. However when it went to takeoff, something went wrong, very wrong. It appeared to lift off the runway way too early (about 1/3 what you would have expected) pitch up and roll sharply to the port side. At about 75-100' it was still nose high and rolling sharply to its port side. Then the nose pitched down. The aircraft was now heading towards the ground but my view became obscured by a house and tree line (yes we do have trees in Arizona). A second later was impact followed by smoke. Both soles on board died. No houses or people on the ground were hurt. Since it was a EAA breakfast fly-in there were pilots all around speculating on what had happened. What went wrong. Some are speculating it was a high performance takeoff the pilot lost control due to the torque effect and the 700+ horse power engine. I don't know if we will ever know. 15 years earlier an RV-4 pilot decided to do a roll on takeoff at this same airport and killed himself and his passenger. I hope I never have a day like this again. Paul ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:09:25 PM PST US From: "Mark Burns" Subject: RE: RV7-List: A very bad day at the airport Paul, All you can do is try and not let it upset you too much. Time will take some of the edge off. Things like this just happen. My prayers are with the families involved. Mark _____ From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Merems rv7-list@matronics.com; RV-9A@yahoogroups.com; rv9-list@matronics.com Subject: RV7-List: A very bad day at the airport Fellow builders, I want to share with you a very bad day at the airport. I was attending a pancake breakfast with our local EAA chapter at La Cholla Airpark just north of Tucson AZ. A dozen or so aircraft arrived and another two dozen or so visitors arrived for a wonderful morning of food and airplanes. One of the aircraft that arrived was a turbine Legend (composite, high performance aircraft). It announced it's arrival with a high speed flyby and landed. However when it went to takeoff, something went wrong, very wrong. It appeared to lift off the runway way too early (about 1/3 what you would have expected) pitch up and roll sharply to the port side. At about 75-100' it was still nose high and rolling sharply to its port side. Then the nose pitched down. The aircraft was now heading towards the ground but my view became obscured by a house and tree line (yes we do have trees in Arizona). A second later was impact followed by smoke. Both soles on board died. No houses or people on the ground were hurt. Since it was a EAA breakfast fly-in there were pilots all around speculating on what had happened. What went wrong. Some are speculating it was a high performance takeoff the pilot lost control due to the torque effect and the 700+ horse power engine. I don't know if we will ever know. 15 years earlier an RV-4 pilot decided to do a roll on takeoff at this same airport and killed himself and his passenger. I hope I never have a day like this again. Paul ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:23:50 PM PST US From: "Franz Fux" Subject: RE: RV7-List: A very bad day at the airport Thank you for sharing this very terrible experience with us. My prayers go out to all the people involved in this tragic accident. May we learn something from it. Franz -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Merems Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 12:49 PM To: RV-8@yahoogroups.com; RV10 Group; RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com; rv7-list@matronics.com; RV-9A@yahoogroups.com; rv9-list@matronics.com Subject: RV7-List: A very bad day at the airport Fellow builders, I want to share with you a very bad day at the airport. I was attending a pancake breakfast with our local EAA chapter at La Cholla Airpark just north of Tucson AZ. A dozen or so aircraft arrived and another two dozen or so visitors arrived for a wonderful morning of food and airplanes. One of the aircraft that arrived was a turbine Legend (composite, high performance aircraft). It announced it's arrival with a high speed flyby and landed. However when it went to takeoff, something went wrong, very wrong. It appeared to lift off the runway way too early (about 1/3 what you would have expected) pitch up and roll sharply to the port side. At about 75-100' it was still nose high and rolling sharply to its port side. Then the nose pitched down. The aircraft was now heading towards the ground but my view became obscured by a house and tree line (yes we do have trees in Arizona). A second later was impact followed by smoke. Both soles on board died. No houses or people on the ground were hurt. Since it was a EAA breakfast fly-in there were pilots all around speculating on what had happened. What went wrong. Some are speculating it was a high performance takeoff the pilot lost control due to the torque effect and the 700+ horse power engine. I don't know if we will ever know. 15 years earlier an RV-4 pilot decided to do a roll on takeoff at this same airport and killed himself and his passenger. I hope I never have a day like this again. Paul