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1. 03:54 AM - Re: Pitot tube? (Skykingjfg@aol.com)
2. 06:14 AM - Re: Pitot tube? (Dan Checkoway)
3. 09:43 AM - Re: Pitot tube? (Brooks Wolfe)
4. 10:13 AM - Re: Pitot tube? (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
5. 03:13 PM - Heated Pitot tube? (Daniel Storer)
6. 04:12 PM - Re: PC Simulators (joelrhaynes@aol.com)
7. 08:19 PM - Re: Re: PC Simulators (Cammie Patch)
8. 10:39 PM - Re: Re: PC Simulators (Franz Fux)
9. 11:15 PM - Re: Re: PC Simulators (Mark Conover)
10. 11:20 PM - Left elevator (Paul Walter)
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You won't need one unless you plan to fly IFR in the clouds. However, if you
decide you want one the cheapest I've found is either Falcon or Dynon. Also
Gretz is offering a new model at a reasonable price.
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There's no requirement for a heated pitot tube, even for IFR. It's simply not
required under Part 91.
23.1323 requires a heated pitot tube: "(d) If certification for instrument flight
rules or flight in icing conditions is requested, each airspeed system must
have a heated pitot tube or an equivalent means of preventing malfunction due
to icing."
However, our airplanes are not required to conform to Part 23. Plus, the way the
modern operating limitations are structured, we don't have to request specific
"certification" under IFR. The operating limitations simply specify that
we need to conform to 91.205:
"(8) After completion of phase I flight testing, unless appropriately equipped
for night and/or instrument flight in accordance with =A7 91.205, this aircraft
is to be operated under VFR, day only."
That said, you'd be remiss to do any real IFR flying anywhere near the freezing
level without one. I have warm (hot?) fuzzies as a result of having one, but
I want to clarify that it's not a hard and fast requirement for amateur built
aircraft in the U.S.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (802 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
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From: Skykingjfg@aol.com
To: rv7-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 3:49 AM
Subject: Re: RV7-List: Pitot tube?
You won't need one unless you plan to fly IFR in the clouds. However, if you
decide you want one the cheapest I've found is either Falcon or Dynon. Also Gretz
is offering a new model at a reasonable price.
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Dynon's pitot tube remains unheated. For several years they worked on a
heated version, but apparently they've finally given up on the project --
Last word I heard is that they have no plans to bring a heated tube to
market.
Brooks
N513BW -- Waiting for warmer temps to cut my canopy!
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From: rv7-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV7-List: Pitot tube?
You won't need one unless you plan to fly IFR in the clouds. However, if you
decide you want one the cheapest I've found is either Falcon or Dynon. Also
Gretz is offering a new model at a reasonable price.
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Bummer!...Oh well at least there is no point in waiting.
As to the canopy I PERSONALLY would just cut it....Use a local fan
heater to warm the underside for a few minutes but other than that if
you don't want to wait just do it...I have cut it quite sucessfully in
as low as 40F no problem.
Oh by the way, you can also sand out scratches with wet and dry and
polish it back clear with metal polish pretty easily as well
Frank
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From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brooks Wolfe
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: RV7-List: Pitot tube?
Dynon's pitot tube remains unheated. For several years they worked on a
heated version, but apparently they've finally given up on the project
-- Last word I heard is that they have no plans to bring a heated tube
to market.
Brooks
N513BW -- Waiting for warmer temps to cut my canopy!
-------Original Message-------
From: rv7-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV7-List: Pitot tube?
You won't need one unless you plan to fly IFR in the clouds. However, if
you decide you want one the cheapest I've found is either Falcon or
Dynon. Also Gretz is offering a new model at a reasonable price.
=09
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| Subject: | Heated Pitot tube? |
Call Wentworth (612) 722- 1024 and get a used Cessna heated tube just over
$100, which works with the Gretz mounting hardware.
Dan Storer
N700DJ res.
7A waiting finishing kit
Oklahoma City
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| Subject: | RE: PC Simulators |
I have purchased several version of MS Flight Simulator through the years and I
still do not like it. However, I have found OnTop version 8 from ASA to be a
great IFR trainer. Don't expect great graphics out the window because it's an
IFR trainer. But the panel graphics are great and you can configure the panel
in many different ways for a variety of aircraft. It has all the VORs, NDBs,
airports, etc. It flies like a real airplane.
Joel Haynes
Bozeman, MT
7A Finishing
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| Subject: | RE: PC Simulators |
The best, by far, it Elite's software www.flyelite.com
<http://www.flyelite.com/>
I'm a CFII and teach a lot of IFR students, I see results with this
software.
www.glasscockpitaviation.com <http://www.glasscockpitaviation.com/>
Cammie
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From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
joelrhaynes@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:07 PM
Subject: RV7-List: RE: PC Simulators
I have purchased several version of MS Flight Simulator through the years
and I still do not like it. However, I have found OnTop version 8 from ASA
to be a great IFR trainer. Don't expect great graphics out the window
because it's an IFR trainer. But the panel graphics are great and you can
configure the panel in many different ways for a variety of aircraft. It
has all the VORs, NDBs, airports, etc. It flies like a real airplane.
Joel Haynes
Bozeman, MT
7A Finishing
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| Subject: | RE: PC Simulators |
If anyone wants to buy the elite software including joke please contact me
off line. I do not use it anymore.
Franz
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Cammie Patch
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:18 PM
To: rv7-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV7-List: RE: PC Simulators
The best, by far, it Elite's software www.flyelite.com
I'm a CFII and teach a lot of IFR students, I see results with this
software.
www.glasscockpitaviation.com
Cammie
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From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
joelrhaynes@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:07 PM
To: rv7-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV7-List: RE: PC Simulators
I have purchased several version of MS Flight Simulator through the years
and I still do not like it. However, I have found OnTop version 8 from ASA
to be a great IFR trainer. Don't expect great graphics out the window
because it's an IFR trainer. But the panel graphics are great and you can
configure the panel in many different ways for a variety of aircraft. It
has all the VORs, NDBs, airports, etc. It flies like a real airplane.
Joel Haynes
Bozeman, MT
7A Finishing
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| Subject: | Re: RE: PC Simulators |
I found X-Plane very helpful during my IFR training a few years ago.
And the price is outstanding, too.
http://www.x-plane.com/
-Mark Conover
RV-9 empennage (newly arrived)
Franz Fux wrote:
> If anyone wants to buy the elite software including joke please
> contact me off line. I do not use it anymore.
>
> Franz
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com]*On Behalf Of *Cammie
> Patch
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:18 PM
> *To:* rv7-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV7-List: RE: PC Simulators
>
> The best, by far, it Elite's software www.flyelite.com
> <http://www.flyelite.com/>
>
> I'm a CFII and teach a lot of IFR students, I see results with
> this software.
>
> www.glasscockpitaviation.com <http://www.glasscockpitaviation.com/>
>
> Cammie
>
>
>
>
> *From:* owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> *joelrhaynes@aol.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:07 PM
> *To:* rv7-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV7-List: RE: PC Simulators
>
>
>
> I have purchased several version of MS Flight Simulator through
> the years and I still do not like it. However, I have found OnTop
> version 8 from ASA to be a great IFR trainer. Don't expect great
> graphics out the window because it's an IFR trainer. But the panel
> graphics are great and you can configure the panel in many
> different ways for a variety of aircraft. It has all the VORs,
> NDBs, airports, etc. It flies like a real airplane.
>
>
>
> Joel Haynes
>
> Bozeman, MT
>
> 7A Finishing
>
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When riveting skin to E-606pp on left elevator. Are the eight rivets (four each
side) on the out bound side of the trim tab, between stiffeners J and H pop rivets
or is there a method to back rivet.
Dan - you got your ears on ?
Paul Walter
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