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1. 07:28 AM - Re: EFIS question (Jerry Grimmonpre)
2. 09:41 AM - Re: EFIS question (B Tomm)
3. 11:53 AM - Parking Brake (George Neal E Capt HQ AU/XPRR)
4. 12:41 PM - (Don Hall)
5. 01:26 PM - Re: EFIS question (Imken)
6. 01:49 PM - Re: Leadweights too light? (William Gill)
7. 02:35 PM - Re: EFIS question (Greg Vouga)
8. 10:56 PM - Rudder (Paul Walter)
9. 11:37 PM - Re: Rudder (davcor@comcast.net)
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| Subject: | Re: EFIS question |
David ... Please copy me as well I'm going the GRT route ... I found no off-line
address for your contact .... thanks, Jerry Grimmonpre' jerry@mc.net
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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From: David Schaefer
To: rv7-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: RV7-List: EFIS question
I've been flying three screens for over a year and have owned the units almost
18 months. Please email me off-line for any information you might want.
Regards,
On 2/13/06, Deb and Bernard Weiss <weissmntc@earthlink.net> wrote:
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Deb and Bernard Weiss" < weissmntc@earthlink.net>
Dan,
I am getting ready to start my panel design and I am hearing conflicting
reports about the grand rapids EFIS. Do you know of people who are flying
this system, could you forward me their names so that I could get their
opinions. The alternative is Chelton, but I think that is just tooooo
expensive for an RV7. Thanks
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David,
Could you CC your comments/advice to me as well please? I'm going GRT as I
think it suits me better than the others.
Bevan
RV7A
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From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Schaefer
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: RV7-List: EFIS question
I've been flying three screens for over a year and have owned the units
almost 18 months. Please email me off-line for any information you might
want.
Regards,
On 2/13/06, Deb and Bernard Weiss <weissmntc@earthlink.net> wrote:
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Deb and Bernard Weiss" <
<mailto:weissmntc@earthlink.net> weissmntc@earthlink.net>
Dan,
I am getting ready to start my panel design and I am hearing conflicting
reports about the grand rapids EFIS. Do you know of people who are flying
this system, could you forward me their names so that I could get their
opinions. The alternative is Chelton, but I think that is just tooooo
expensive for an RV7. Thanks
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--> RV7-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt HQ AU/XPRR <Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL>
Gentlemen -
I have a Matco PV-1 Parking Brake Valve from Van's that I have decided not
to use.
New, in the box, never been mounted.
$110 delivered.
Neal (at) appaero (dot) com
Neal (dot) george (at) Maxwell (do) af (dot) mil
244 Andrews Street
Maxwell AFB, AL 36113
Home - 334-262-8993
Cell - 334-546-2033
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I got the idea to use PVC from other builders. It's easy to push wires
through PVC.
Here's where I cut the hole.
http://donka.net/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=spars
<http://donka.net/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=spars&id=DSC04746>
&id=DSC04746
The location works out great as it will put the PVC just below the aft edge
of the wing access panels. The access panel is not obstructed, and the
conduit is right there to pluck wires from for pitot or autopilot.
Here's a shot of the PVC in the wing.
http://donka.net/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=rightwing
<http://donka.net/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=rightwing&id=DSC04843
> &id=DSC04843
other notes:
- I put the conduit in place before riveting the skins and it posed no added
measure of difficulty while riveting.
- I put some blue RTV at all the PVC+Rib intersections to avoid any
potential vibration or movement issues.
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From: Alf Olav Frog <alfolavf(at)online.no>
Subject: PVC-tube in the wings?
Hi builders!
Thanks for the inputs on the flap hinge! I'll go for the split-pin
metod then!
Another one:
I'm thinking towards intstalling wires in the wings also, and saw a
builder on
the net who'd installed a small PVC-tube in the wings.
It made room for several wires (landing light, posn light, antenna
etc)
Anyone else have done this?
It seems to me like a good idea??
Specially if I also put a light line in there so I can replace or add
thing later.
Thoughts anyone??
Best regards Alf Olav Frog / Norway
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Don Hall
N517DG (registered)
rv7 empennage
http:\\donka.net\rv7project.html <http://donka.net/rv7project.html>
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I flew in an RV-8 after the owner installed two Chelton EFISs..very
impressive. However, I have 200 hours on my GRT EFIS in my 7A and Im not
about to trade it in. It is also impressive. I have it coupled to my 430
and TruTrak Digiflight IIVSG. I love the split screen capability on the
GRT. I can keep primary flight data on the left screen and a moving map on
the right screen of the GRT EFIS. When I am getting close to my
destination, a switch on the panel lets me change the auto-pilot from GPS
guidance to EFIS guidance. Consequently, when ATC gives me a different
heading and a descent during approach, I have to wake up and turn a knob on
the EFIS to a different heading and dial in a minus 500 FPM on the TruTrak.
I know it takes all the fun out of hand flying the plane, but it sure
makes single-pilot IMC a tad more comfortable.
To each his own. It all boils down to what kind of flying you plan to do.
If VFR only, save your money and maybe go with the analog 6-pack steam
gauges. They still work good. My personal choice is I want to fly IFR when
necessary and dont like vacuum pumps. The GRT EFIS works for me. I was
convinced by 2 friends who are airline pilots and put it in their RVs.
Chuck
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From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jerry Grimmonpre
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: RV7-List: EFIS question
David ... Please copy me as well I'm going the GRT route ... I found no
off-line address for your contact .... thanks, Jerry Grimmonpre'
jerry@mc.net <mailto:jerry@mc.net>
DO NOT ARCHIVE
----- Original Message -----
From: David Schaefer <mailto:dwschaefer@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: RV7-List: EFIS question
I've been flying three screens for over a year and have owned the units
almost 18 months. Please email me off-line for any information you might
want.
Regards,
On 2/13/06, Deb and Bernard Weiss < weissmntc@earthlink.net
<mailto:weissmntc@earthlink.net> > wrote:
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Deb and Bernard Weiss" <
weissmntc@earthlink.net <mailto:weissmntc@earthlink.net> >
Dan,
I am getting ready to start my panel design and I am hearing conflicting
reports about the grand rapids EFIS. Do you know of people who are flying
this system, could you forward me their names so that I could get their
opinions. The alternative is Chelton, but I think that is just tooooo
expensive for an RV7. Thanks
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| Subject: | Leadweights too light? |
I too found the lead weight to be too light after installing the pitch
trim servo. To correct, I clamped a piece of sheet metal around the
weight as a form and used a small propane torch to get the center of the
weight molten to within about a 1/4" of the edge, then added lead using
large fishing weights. The weight is just a little heavier than
necessary and will trim as required after painting. Attached are three
pictures comparing the "as is" right elevator weight to the modified
right elevator weight.
Have a great day,
Bill
RV-7 finish
Lee's Summit, MO
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From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alf Olav Frog
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 12:44 PM
Subject: RV7-List: Leadweights too light?
Hi!
Thanks for the inputs regarding PVC-tube in the wings!
We're done with the empennage now and both elevators are AFT heavy.
On the right one, we adjusted it per plans, but we had to bolt the
removed leadpiece back onto the counterweight to get the elevator closer
to neutral.
On the left one, we didn't do anything to the counterweight.
I guess we can solve the problem by adding lead in the forward part of
the fiberglass tips before installing them.
Have anyone else encountered this?
The only reason I can think of is that we maybe put too much tanksealer
in the aft part of the stiffners?? (But I don't think we overdid it....)
Best regards Alf Olav Frog / Norway
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| Subject: | Re: EFIS question |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Greg Vouga" <gmvouga@hotmail.com>
David,
Please copy me too. I'm just about ready to order avionics and I was
leaning towards GRT.
Thanks,
Greg
>From: David Schaefer <dwschaefer@gmail.com>
>To: rv7-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV7-List: EFIS question
>Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 21:57:17 -0600
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>I've been flying three screens for over a year and have owned the units
>almost 18 months. Please email me off-line for any information you might
>want.
>
>Regards,
>
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>On 2/13/06, Deb and Bernard Weiss <weissmntc@earthlink.net> wrote:
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> > Dan,
> > I am getting ready to start my panel design and I am hearing conflicting
> > reports about the grand rapids EFIS. Do you know of people who are
>flying
> > this system, could you forward me their names so that I could get their
> > opinions. The alternative is Chelton, but I think that is just tooooo
> > expensive for an RV7. Thanks
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>David Schaefer
>RV-6A N142DS "Geek One"
>www.n142ds.com
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On the Rudder, does the 913 counter balance skin go over or under the 901 rudder
skin. The plan makes it hard to tell. It would seem logical to have it over
so the join running is with the air flow - I am just not sure.
Paul Walter
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Paul,
look closely at drawing 7 grid f/g | 5/4 dashed lines are hidden. Not that over
looked this or anything...
squeeze 'em too don't buck...
Dave
RV7 - N898DC (rsvd)
emp done, wings done finally, fuse firewall... de-burring and dimpling and countersinking
when you get to your tanks, find (on ebay) an Orndorf video showing the tank build
process (RV6 works), realize the stories aren't as bad... dive in. Don't forget
to visit rvproject.com
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From: "Paul Walter" <pdwalter@bigpond.net.au>
On the Rudder, does the 913 counter balance skin go over or under the 901 rudder
skin. The plan makes it hard to tell. It would seem logical to have it over
so the join running is with the air flow - I am just not sure.
Paul Walter
Paul,
look closely at drawing 7 grid f/g | 5/4 dashed lines are hidden. Not that over
looked this or anything...
squeeze 'em too don't buck...
Dave
RV7 - N898DC (rsvd)
emp done, wings done finally, fuse firewall... de-burring and dimpling and countersinking
when you get to your tanks, find (on ebay) an Orndorf video showing the tank build
process (RV6 works), realize the stories aren't as bad... dive in. Don't forget
tovisit rvproject.com
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From: "Paul Walter" pdwalter@bigpond.net.au
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On the Rudder, does the 913 counter balance skin go over or under the 901 rudder
skin. The plan makes it hard to tell. It would seem logical to have it over
so the join running is with the air flow - I am just not sure.
Paul Walter
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