---------------------------------------------------------- RV7-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 02/16/06: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:03 AM - New landing light for the RV-7 and -8 (Alf Olav Frog) 2. 06:40 AM - Re: New landing light for the RV-7 and -8 (Tyler Bryant) 3. 07:04 AM - Re: New landing light for the RV-7 and -8 (LarryRobertHelming) 4. 07:21 AM - Tow Bar (Scott Diffenbaugh) 5. 09:32 AM - Re: New landing light for the RV-7 and -8 (D.Munz) 6. 01:33 PM - Re: Rudder (Brad Oliver) 7. 09:12 PM - Re: New landing light for the RV-7 and -8 (Don Hall) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:03:29 AM PST US From: Alf Olav Frog Subject: RV7-List: New landing light for the RV-7 and -8 HI! I just saw that Vans has a new landing light system in their online-store. It's designed for installation in the wing tips (2 in each), gives a total of 300W (4 x 75W) It can only be installed in the new wingtips with the straight TE. (W-715-1) Has anyone experience with this product? Is it better than the Duckworks 100W for example? Easy to install? It appeals to me that I don't have to cut in the nice LE of my QB-wings... and more light ofcourse. Best regards Alf Olav Frog / Norway ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:21 AM PST US From: Tyler Bryant Subject: Re: RV7-List: New landing light for the RV-7 and -8 --> RV7-List message posted by: Tyler Bryant Ordered these, and when they came in I hooked them up to measure "in rush current" as I noticed that they are the high wattage minature halogen. In rush current was greater than 20 amps for about 8 seconds until they came up to full bright. I then measured the in rush current for the Duckworth and found that the current barely exceeded 10 amps for less than a second. Also the heat generation in the confined space in the wing tip and the fact that the composite laminate of the wing tip was barely adequate for the loads, I felt that I should just go with the Duck lights in the wings. Sent the other lights back. That's just my opinion Tyler RV7A N442MN Alf Olav Frog wrote: >HI! > >I just saw that Vans has a new landing light system in their online-store. >It's designed for installation in the wing tips (2 in each), gives a total of 300W (4 x 75W) > >It can only be installed in the new wingtips with the straight TE. (W-715-1) > >Has anyone experience with this product? >Is it better than the Duckworks 100W for example? Easy to install? >It appeals to me that I don't have to cut in the nice LE of my QB-wings... and more light ofcourse. > >Best regards Alf Olav Frog / Norway > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:04:11 AM PST US From: "LarryRobertHelming" Subject: Re: RV7-List: New landing light for the RV-7 and -8 --> RV7-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" And demanding a bigger alternator perhaps. do not archive Indiana Larry, RV7 SunSeeker 85+ hours flying > HI! > > I just saw that Vans has a new landing light system in their online-store. > It's designed for installation in the wing tips (2 in each), gives a total > of 300W (4 x 75W) > > It can only be installed in the new wingtips with the straight TE. > (W-715-1) > > Has anyone experience with this product? > Is it better than the Duckworks 100W for example? Easy to install? > It appeals to me that I don't have to cut in the nice LE of my QB-wings... > and more light ofcourse. > > Best regards Alf Olav Frog / Norway > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:19 AM PST US From: "Scott Diffenbaugh" Subject: RV7-List: Tow Bar --> RV7-List message posted by: "Scott Diffenbaugh" Larry, I did some searching and finally ordered a Bogert towbar from ACS (their # 13-01811 for $74.00). Short story was it didn't work properly so I called Richard Bogert, the owner, and he sent me modified parts at no charge which solved the problem after I re-drilled the pivot hole to fit my wheel pant. I also clamped on a simple stop per his suggestion to hold the bar in closed position so it won't pop off when steering the nosewheel. I think he may be adding a stop/latch in the future. If he does, it will be one trick unit. Lightweight, good quality, and collapsible for stowing in the baggage compartment. I would give him a call. He is super nice. info@bogert-av.com or 509-736-1513. Regards, Scott Diffenbaugh RV-7A N814SD FAA inspection today! ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:32:33 AM PST US From: "D.Munz" <182ppl@comcast.net> Subject: Re: RV7-List: New landing light for the RV-7 and -8 --> RV7-List message posted by: "D.Munz" <182ppl@comcast.net> I do not have any experience with the product that Vans sells but the Creativair.com landing lights look very similar. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alf Olav Frog" Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 2:54 AM Subject: RV7-List: New landing light for the RV-7 and -8 > HI! > > I just saw that Vans has a new landing light system in their online-store. > It's designed for installation in the wing tips (2 in each), gives a total > of 300W (4 x 75W) > > It can only be installed in the new wingtips with the straight TE. > (W-715-1) > > Has anyone experience with this product? > Is it better than the Duckworks 100W for example? Easy to install? > It appeals to me that I don't have to cut in the nice LE of my QB-wings... > and more light ofcourse. > > Best regards Alf Olav Frog / Norway > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:33:06 PM PST US From: Brad Oliver Subject: RE: RV7-List: Rudder cc: rv7-list@matronics.com --> RV7-List message posted by: Brad Oliver Dave is correct... the rudder skin goes OVER the counterbalance skin. This has been brought up several times in several places, all with the same conclusion... the dashed lines on the plans indicate the rudder skin is on top of counterbalance skin. If you do as Dave says and taper the counterbalance skin, as the plans indicate, you will be surprised at how flat the rudder skin sits on top of the counterbalance. But hey, don't take our word for it... call Van's if you need verification. Good luck! Brad Oliver RV-7 Livermore, CA www.rv7factory.com > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: RV7-List: Rudder > From: Dave Nellis > Date: Wed, February 15, 2006 8:07 pm > To: rv7-list@matronics.com > > --> RV7-List message posted by: Dave Nellis > > Hooboy, I hope it works for you, because I think you > are incorrect in putting the counterbalance skin on > top. The plans show two areas each side that require > you to taper the edges of the CB skin, not unlike > honing a razor blade. This provides a gentle ramp for > the rudder skins to lay onto, reducing any possibility > of kinking the skin near the joint of the CB and > rudder skin. Reference Drawing 7, section G 10, and G > 5 > > --- Greg C wrote: > > > Hi Paul, > > > > The counterbalance skin goes over the left and > > right skins. I edge rolled the counterbalance skin > > to put a slight angle on it so it sits nicely flat > > on all edges against the skins. > > > > Greg > > > > "J. Brunke" wrote: > > v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } o\:* > > { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } w\:* { > > BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } .shape { BEHAVIOR: > > url(#default#VML) } > > st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } > > Paul, > > > > If you look in the archives there was a discussion > > on this about a year ago. > > > > John Brunke > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Scott R. Shook > > To: rv7-list@matronics.com > > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 12:28 PM > > Subject: RE: RV7-List: Rudder > > > > > > I had the same questionthe plans are correct. > > If memory serves me correctly, the dashed line has > > the skin edge into the wind. > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On > > Behalf Of Paul Walter > > Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 11:54 PM > > To: rv7-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RV7-List: Rudder > > > > > > On the Rudder, does the 913 counter balance skin > > go over or under the 901 rudder skin. The plan makes > > it hard to tell. It would seem logical to have it > > over so the join running is with the air flow - I am > > just not sure. > > > > > > > > Paul Walter > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying > attachments. > > > __________________________________________________ > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:12:07 PM PST US From: "Don Hall" Subject: RE: RV7-List: New landing light for the RV-7 and -8 --> RV7-List message posted by: "Don Hall" A friend has wing tip landing lights. They don't really light up front and center all that well because the notched tip introduces its own obstruction. It's not unusable for that flaw, and they are nifty otherwise. I wanted to be sure of plenty of forward light, so I went with duckworks HID in the leading edge. Mine are only lighting up my shop at this point... -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alf Olav Frog Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 6:09 AM Subject: RV7-List: New landing light for the RV-7 and -8 HI! I just saw that Vans has a new landing light system in their online-store. It's designed for installation in the wing tips (2 in each), gives a total of 300W (4 x 75W) It can only be installed in the new wingtips with the straight TE. (W-715-1) Has anyone experience with this product? Is it better than the Duckworks 100W for example? Easy to install? It appeals to me that I don't have to cut in the nice LE of my QB-wings... and more light ofcourse. Best regards Alf Olav Frog / Norway