---------------------------------------------------------- RV7-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 02/24/06: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:24 AM - Re: RV7-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 02/23/06 () 2. 08:44 AM - Dangerous ER fuel tanks? (Alf Olav Frog) 3. 09:21 AM - Re: Dangerous ER fuel tanks? (Darrell Reiley) 4. 10:06 AM - Re: Dangerous ER fuel tanks? (Jamie Painter) 5. 03:57 PM - Mandatory Service Bulletin (Daniel Storer) 6. 07:25 PM - Re: Mandatory Service Bulletin (Scott R. Shook) 7. 07:57 PM - Re: Mandatory Service Bulletin (Darrell Reiley) 8. 08:04 PM - Re: Mandatory Service Bulletin (skyking135) 9. 08:25 PM - Re: Mandatory Service Bulletin (Darrell Reiley) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:24:52 AM PST US From: Subject: RV7-List: Re: RV7-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 02/23/06 --> RV7-List message posted by: Alf Olav Frog Yes, there is an article in one of the EAA Sport Aviation magazines... can't recall which issue but there pictures and everything describing the manufacturer and installation of the "tube" tanks. The tanks are placed in the wing with supports and plumming. Ron Fearnow Fuselage (F-706 thru 710) ----- Original Message ----- From: "RV7-List Digest Server" Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 2:57 AM Subject: RV7-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 02/23/06 > * > > ================================================== > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================== > > Today's complete RV7-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. 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(Dave Nellis) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:38:04 PM PST US > From: Alf Olav Frog > Subject: RV7-List: Extra fueltanks? > > > Hi! > > I just heard that there's a company who's making extra fueltanks for the > RV-7 and > -8. > I thinks it's a kind of "tubes" which is installed along the main spar in > each > wing, giving approx 10-12 gls extra fuel total. > > I thinks it's a complete kit ready to install. > > Anyone heard about this or know a web adr where I can find some more info? > Or better still: have any experience with installation and/or use? > > Best regards Alf Olav Frog / Norway > > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:24:04 PM PST US > From: Darrell Reiley > Subject: Re: RV7-List: Extra fueltanks? > > Here you go Alf... > > http://www.safeair1.com/index.htm > > Alf Olav Frog wrote: > > > Hi! > > I just heard that there's a company who's making extra fueltanks for the > RV-7 and > -8. > I thinks it's a kind of "tubes" which is installed along the main spar in > each > wing, giving approx 10-12 gls extra fuel total. > > I thinks it's a complete kit ready to install. > > Anyone heard about this or know a web adr where I can find some more info? > Or better still: have any experience with installation and/or use? > > Best regards Alf Olav Frog / Norway > > > "Do Not Archive" > > Darrell Reiley > > RV7A "Reiley Rocket" > N622DR Reserved > > > --------------------------------- > > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:25:57 PM PST US > Subject: Re: RV7-List: Extra fueltanks? > From: Gerry Filby > > --> RV7-List message posted by: Gerry Filby > > > http://www.safeair1.com/HWA/HWA_top.htm > > g > >> >> >> >> Hi! >> >> I just heard that there's a company who's making extra >> fueltanks for the RV-7 and -8. >> I thinks it's a kind of "tubes" which is installed along the >> main spar in each wing, giving approx 10-12 gls extra fuel total. >> >> I thinks it's a complete kit ready to install. >> >> Anyone heard about this or know a web adr where I can find some >> more info? >> Or better still: have any experience with installation and/or use? >> >> Best regards Alf Olav Frog / Norway >> >> > > -- > __g__ > > ========================================================== > Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com > Tel: 415 203 9177 > > > ________________________________ Message 4 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 04:04:02 PM PST US > From: "Greg Vouga" > Subject: RV7-List: Glare Shield Coating > > --> RV7-List message posted by: "Greg Vouga" > > Hi All, > > I'm looking for recomendations for covering the top of the glare shield on > my RV-7A slider. I'm looking for something that will keep reflections on > the windscreen to a minimum. I've heard of using textured black vinyl, > but > I'm leaning more towards flat black paint to keep weight down. Probably a > PPG product since it matches the primer I have and it's what I used on my > interior. Any recommendations on what worked (or didn't work) for you > would > be much appreciated. > > Greg > Raleigh, NC > RV-7A Canopy > > > ________________________________ Message 5 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 04:34:16 PM PST US > From: Norman Younie > Subject: Re: RV7-List: Glare Shield Coating > > --> RV7-List message posted by: Norman Younie > > I have used flat black paint in a rattle can in all the planes that I > have built and it works just fine. Paint the deck before installing the > plexi, it's a whole lot easier. > > Cheers > Norman > > > Greg Vouga wrote: > >> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Greg Vouga" >> >> Hi All, >> >> I'm looking for recomendations for covering the top of the glare >> shield on my RV-7A slider. I'm looking for something that will keep >> reflections on the windscreen to a minimum. I've heard of using >> textured black vinyl, but I'm leaning more towards flat black paint to >> keep weight down. Probably a PPG product since it matches the primer I >> have and it's what I used on my interior. Any recommendations on what >> worked (or didn't work) for you would be much appreciated. >> >> Greg >> Raleigh, NC >> RV-7A Canopy >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 6 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 04:43:47 PM PST US > From: "Imken" > Subject: RE: RV7-List: Glare Shield Coating > > --> RV7-List message posted by: "Imken" > > I agree with Norman. > Cheers, > Chuck > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Norman Younie > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 6:32 PM > Subject: Re: RV7-List: Glare Shield Coating > > --> RV7-List message posted by: Norman Younie > > I have used flat black paint in a rattle can in all the planes that I > have built and it works just fine. Paint the deck before installing the > plexi, it's a whole lot easier. > > Cheers > Norman > > > Greg Vouga wrote: > >> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Greg Vouga" >> >> Hi All, >> >> I'm looking for recomendations for covering the top of the glare >> shield on my RV-7A slider. I'm looking for something that will keep >> reflections on the windscreen to a minimum. I've heard of using >> textured black vinyl, but I'm leaning more towards flat black paint to >> keep weight down. Probably a PPG product since it matches the primer I >> have and it's what I used on my interior. Any recommendations on what >> worked (or didn't work) for you would be much appreciated. >> >> Greg >> Raleigh, NC >> RV-7A Canopy >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 7 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:04:43 PM PST US > From: Dave Nellis > Subject: Re: RV7-List: Extra fueltanks? > > --> RV7-List message posted by: Dave Nellis > > http://www.safeair1.com/HWA/HWA_top.htm > > --- Alf Olav Frog wrote: > >> >> >> >> Hi! >> >> I just heard that there's a company who's making >> extra fueltanks for the RV-7 and -8. >> I thinks it's a kind of "tubes" which is installed >> along the main spar in each wing, giving approx >> 10-12 gls extra fuel total. >> >> I thinks it's a complete kit ready to install. >> >> Anyone heard about this or know a web adr where I >> can find some more info? >> Or better still: have any experience with >> installation and/or use? >> >> Best regards Alf Olav Frog / Norway >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:44:12 AM PST US From: Alf Olav Frog Subject: RV7-List: Dangerous ER fuel tanks? Hi! Thank you builders for the web adr to the Safe Air1 company who sells ER-fueltanks for RV's. Those tanks looked GREAT! However; I got an interesting thought from a builder who wrote that these tanks were potentially dangerous. He said that during spin, the fuel would be sloshed to the outboard end of the fueltank thus making it difficult or impossible to revover from a spin. OK; so intentionally spins in a RV with partially full ER-tanks isn't something you would do, but some sunny day one maybe could get into an UN-intentionally spin.... and THEN what?? Have anyone some info regarding this? It would also be nice to hear from someone who has installed the ER-tanks! Was it complicated etc Not to mention if anyone has done spintesting with those tanks.... Best regards Alf Olav Frog / Norway ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:21:40 AM PST US From: Darrell Reiley Subject: Re: RV7-List: Dangerous ER fuel tanks? Alf, The ER tanks are not made for everyday flying. You have to be a serious cross country RV driver to consider them anyway. Most of your flying time they will be EMPTY. Has your friend performed test on these tanks to prove his theory? ;-) Darrell Alf Olav Frog wrote: Hi! Thank you builders for the web adr to the Safe Air1 company who sells ER-fueltanks for RV's. Those tanks looked GREAT! However; I got an interesting thought from a builder who wrote that these tanks were potentially dangerous. He said that during spin, the fuel would be sloshed to the outboard end of the fueltank thus making it difficult or impossible to revover from a spin. OK; so intentionally spins in a RV with partially full ER-tanks isn't something you would do, but some sunny day one maybe could get into an UN-intentionally spin.... and THEN what?? Have anyone some info regarding this? It would also be nice to hear from someone who has installed the ER-tanks! Was it complicated etc Not to mention if anyone has done spintesting with those tanks.... Best regards Alf Olav Frog / Norway --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:06:41 AM PST US From: Jamie Painter Subject: Re: RV7-List: Dangerous ER fuel tanks? --> RV7-List message posted by: Jamie Painter I'm not a physicist, but wouldn't throwing the weight of the fuel outboard actually slow down the rate of the spin...sort of like when an ice skater extends her arms to slow down or folds her arms to speed up? Wouldn't this make it easier to recover from a spin???? Just a thought... - Jamie http://rv.jpainter.org do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:57:10 PM PST US From: "Daniel Storer" Subject: RV7-List: Mandatory Service Bulletin Did everyone see the fuel tank SB on Vans web site? Sure would make for a bad day at the office. Dan Storer RV7A Waiting finishing kit ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:25:40 PM PST US From: "Scott R. Shook" Subject: RE: RV7-List: Mandatory Service Bulletin Saw the SB, my only question would be how does one drill the nut and install the safety wire? To drill the nut and install the wire that would interfere with the threads would it not? Considering I am working on the wings now.I would like to know. _____ From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Storer Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 4:53 PM Subject: RV7-List: Mandatory Service Bulletin Did everyone see the fuel tank SB on Vans web site? Sure would make for a bad day at the office. Dan Storer RV7A Waiting finishing kit Add FUN to your email - CLICK HERE! ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:57:41 PM PST US From: Darrell Reiley Subject: RE: RV7-List: Mandatory Service Bulletin A properly torqued flare nut will not come loose. Lock it down and be done. There are some good instructions on this Thread on the Vansairforce.net if you wish to punish yourself. Darrell "Scott R. Shook" wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } Saw the SB, my only question would be how does one drill the nut and install the safety wire? To drill the nut and install the wire that would interfere with the threads would it not? Considering I am working on the wings nowI would like to know. --------------------------------- From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Storer Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 4:53 PM Subject: RV7-List: Mandatory Service Bulletin Did everyone see the fuel tank SB on Vans web site? Sure would make for a bad day at the office. 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Sure would make > for a bad day at the office. > > Dan Storer > RV7A > Waiting finishing kit > > > > > Add FUN to your email - CLICK HERE! > No. I just checked and didn't see a thing. What are you talking about? ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:25:39 PM PST US From: Darrell Reiley Subject: Re: RV7-List: Mandatory Service Bulletin http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb06-2-23.pdf skyking135 wrote: --> RV7-List message posted by: skyking135 Daniel Storer wrote: > Did everyone see the fuel tank SB on Vans web site? Sure would make > for a bad day at the office. > > Dan Storer > RV7A > Waiting finishing kit > > > > > Add FUN to your email - CLICK HERE! > No. I just checked and didn't see a thing. What are you talking about? "Do Not Archive" Darrell Reiley RV7A "Reiley Rocket" N622DR Reserved --------------------------------- Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.