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Cc: "'Lockamy, Jack L'" <jack.lockamy@navy.mil>
| Subject: | RE: RV7-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 05/10/06 |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Don Hall" <dhall@donka.net>
I'm an inexperienced builder doing a slow build. I am on the fuse and for
me I know I'm glad I'm doing this versus the quickbuild. I feel I will be
much more qualified to inspect and maintain this airplane through my
experience. When I'm at the airport looking at flying RV's, I know I look
at every rivet now much differently than I did just 1 year ago. I *do* have
much appreciation for how much work that QB does for you, but for me, I'm
glad I will know what to do when my fuel tank leaks. I'm glad I will have
100% familiarity with every drawing in the plans.
Now if I should build another plane, I would likley do a quickbuild. There
would be less to learn on a second effort.
All this started because of cost discussions. I'd expect a real deal buying
an unfinished project like mine versus a QB, but I think this will be less
important for flying aircraft. At that point, I think flying hours, finish,
and equipment would start to be more impactful to price. (And I'll have
8-10K more in my pocket from which to negotiate.) In general, I try to
avoid money logic when it comes to airplanes. I'd rather keep my head in
the sand on that topic.
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Don Hall
N517DG (registered)
rv7 fuselage
http:\\donka.net\rv7project.html
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Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 1:56 AM
Cc: Lockamy, Jack L
Subject: Re: RV7-List: RE: RV7-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 05/10/06
--> RV7-List message posted by: <wlull@cox.net>
Yup, can't disagree. I did slow build for the 'educational opportunity' but
didn't realize it was going to be a doctorate degree! My point was that
even with a quick build we will have plenty of opportunity to make lots and
lots of mistakes.
I really really enjoy the building process, but, wings are so borrrring. I
would probably do a quick build too if I build another one. Although those
RV3s are really cute!
Bill
---- "Lockamy wrote:
> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Lockamy, Jack L"
> --> <jack.lockamy@navy.mil>
>
> I think your statement would have been more correctly stated by
saying...."you would be one of those "SMART builders"... by going with a
Quickbuild rather than slow build...not an "inexperienced builder".
>
> My RV-7A kit (#71103) was a quickbuild and was my third aircraft. I'm no
expert but I'm also not a novice. I realized (as many others do) that going
with a Quickbuild kit is the only way to go! The cost difference in the big
scheme of things (about $8K extra for my wings and fuselage) was actually
well worth the extra money, saved lots of time at about $8 p/hr for foreign
labor by my calculations). I live alone and would have to have a
buddy/friend stop by and help me shoot most of those rivets if going slow
build. The workmanship of the QB kits is amazing! I nor any of my RV
buddies could find a single rivet not driven properly (I can't say the same
for those rivets I had to install :-). I also agree with your statement
that there is still a tremendous amount of work the builder will still have
to complete (51%?) and as we all know, finishing is approx. 90% of the
project.
>
> Inexperienced builders go QB....no way! Smart builders...YES!!!
>
> My two cents,
> Jack Lockamy
> Camarillo, CA
> RV-7A N174JL 180 hrs and FLYING!
> www.jacklockamy.com
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> 1. 08:00 AM - Re: Quick Build vs Custom Built ()
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> Time: 08:00:12 AM PST US
> From: <wlull@cox.net>
> Subject: Re: RV7-List: Quick Build vs Custom Built
> Cc: Gandjpappy@aol.com
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> --> RV7-List message posted by: <wlull@cox.net>
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> Greg,
>
> It would seem you have answered your own question, reference your last
sentence.
> It is a question of comfort. Having spent the last two plus years on
> a slow build I know my eye is critical enough now to evaluate a slow
> build for my comfort level. It seems in the ads I've seen that at
> least the seller sees additional value in factory quick builds as the
asking price is generally higher.
>
>
> IMHO, if your new to building and in a hurry then the quick build is
> the way to go. Just remember you still have a large portion to build
> yourself and you would be one of those "inexperienced builders". If
> you are experienced in building and just want a jump start on the next
> project I would look at slow build projects, carefully of course, for a
better return on your investment.
>
> Good luck!!
>
> Bill
>
> RV 7A Canoe
> ---- Gandjpappy@aol.com wrote:
> > Here is what I think is different twist to an old question.
> >
> > I have investigated a couple of custom built kits that are at, or
> > slightly beyond the quick build stage. Would a kit put together by
> > an inexperienced
>
> > builder be worth looking at if it included a couple thousand dollars
> > worth of
>
> > extras and cost about the same as a factory quick build? I keep
> > thinking that
>
> > I would be better off buying a new quick build kit with exactly
> > what I wanted even if it ended up costing a bit more.
> >
> > Opinions?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Greg
>
>
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