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1. 01:35 PM - Empanage fairings (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
2. 02:01 PM - Re: Empanage fairings (Dan Checkoway)
3. 02:36 PM - Re: Empanage fairings ()
4. 03:06 PM - Re: Empanage fairings (Dan Checkoway)
5. 04:30 PM - Re: Empanage fairings (Larry Bowles)
6. 07:44 PM - Re: Empanage fairings (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
7. 09:34 PM - Re: Empanage fairings (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
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| Subject: | Empanage fairings |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Hey all,
The little alu fairings that go under the empanage that are screwed to
the fuse upper angle.
The plans imply that you countersink through the fairing into the skin
and angle. As the fairing is only 25thou thick, the C/S will open up the
hole quite a bit. My tempatation is to dimple the holes for the #6
screws and then C/S the fuse underneath.
The probem is that the C/S would then have to be deeper and I'm a little
nervous of cutting a c/s too far into the angles as these are structural
elements.
What did others do?
Thanks
Frank
RV7a almost at the paint!
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| Subject: | Re: Empanage fairings |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Tinnerman washers.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (907 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 1:30 PM
Subject: RV7-List: Empanage fairings
> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
> <frank.hinde@hp.com>
>
> Hey all,
>
> The little alu fairings that go under the empanage that are screwed to
> the fuse upper angle.
>
> The plans imply that you countersink through the fairing into the skin
> and angle. As the fairing is only 25thou thick, the C/S will open up the
> hole quite a bit. My tempatation is to dimple the holes for the #6
> screws and then C/S the fuse underneath.
>
> The probem is that the C/S would then have to be deeper and I'm a little
> nervous of cutting a c/s too far into the angles as these are structural
> elements.
>
> What did others do?
>
> Thanks
>
> Frank
>
> RV7a almost at the paint!
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Empanage fairings |
Cc: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
--> RV7-List message posted by: <flyer01@adelphia.net>
I used a #40 drill and dimpled the fairing and countersunk the skin/angle and riveted
it on.
---- "Hinde wrote:
> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
>
> Hey all,
>
> The little alu fairings that go under the empanage that are screwed to
> the fuse upper angle.
>
> The plans imply that you countersink through the fairing into the skin
> and angle. As the fairing is only 25thou thick, the C/S will open up the
> hole quite a bit. My tempatation is to dimple the holes for the #6
> screws and then C/S the fuse underneath.
>
> The probem is that the C/S would then have to be deeper and I'm a little
> nervous of cutting a c/s too far into the angles as these are structural
> elements.
>
> What did others do?
>
> Thanks
>
> Frank
>
> RV7a almost at the paint!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Empanage fairings |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
My bad! I thought you meant the empennage fairing, the fiberglass one.
Pretty sure I dimpled the gap cover and c-sunk the fuselage. I'd be very
tempted to rivet it on, but then you can't change the rubber seal easily.
)_( Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: RV7-List: Empanage fairings
> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> Tinnerman washers.
>
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D (907 hours)
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
> To: <rv7-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 1:30 PM
> Subject: RV7-List: Empanage fairings
>
>
>> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
>> <frank.hinde@hp.com>
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> The little alu fairings that go under the empanage that are screwed to
>> the fuse upper angle.
>>
>> The plans imply that you countersink through the fairing into the skin
>> and angle. As the fairing is only 25thou thick, the C/S will open up the
>> hole quite a bit. My tempatation is to dimple the holes for the #6
>> screws and then C/S the fuse underneath.
>>
>> The probem is that the C/S would then have to be deeper and I'm a little
>> nervous of cutting a c/s too far into the angles as these are structural
>> elements.
>>
>> What did others do?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> RV7a almost at the paint!
>>
>>
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>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV7-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Empanage fairings |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Larry Bowles" <schybolt@verizon.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 3:30 PM
Subject: RV7-List: Empanage fairings
> --> RV7-List
I DID WHAT YOU DESCRIBE YESTERDAY. TAPPING LONGERONS TODAY. CAN'T SAY IT'S
RIGHT OR WRONG BUT I ALMOST THUNK IT TO DEATH. FINALLY HAD TO DO SOMETHING.
LARRY B.
7A, BUDA, TEXAS
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| Subject: | Empanage fairings |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Acually I did rivet it on and kinda forgot the rubber seal.
Thanks all the same...:)
Frank
Almost painting
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: RV7-List: Empanage fairings
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
My bad! I thought you meant the empennage fairing, the fiberglass one.
Pretty sure I dimpled the gap cover and c-sunk the fuselage. I'd be
very tempted to rivet it on, but then you can't change the rubber seal
easily.
)_( Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: RV7-List: Empanage fairings
> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> Tinnerman washers.
>
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D (907 hours)
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
> To: <rv7-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 1:30 PM
> Subject: RV7-List: Empanage fairings
>
>
>> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
>> <frank.hinde@hp.com>
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> The little alu fairings that go under the empanage that are screwed
to
>> the fuse upper angle.
>>
>> The plans imply that you countersink through the fairing into the
skin
>> and angle. As the fairing is only 25thou thick, the C/S will open up
the
>> hole quite a bit. My tempatation is to dimple the holes for the #6
>> screws and then C/S the fuse underneath.
>>
>> The probem is that the C/S would then have to be deeper and I'm a
little
>> nervous of cutting a c/s too far into the angles as these are
structural
>> elements.
>>
>> What did others do?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> RV7a almost at the paint!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV7-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>
>
Message 7
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| Subject: | Empanage fairings |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
And then made a classic mistake...
In the QB kit you have to drill out the rivets for the gap fairings...No
biggie but one went a little oversize...No problem I thought, that's
what "Oops' rivets are for....Could have gotten away with a standard
rivet but I have the oops so why not...drilled one hole to #30 and then
realised of course that I need a -6 rivet to get through the fuse side
and angle...Did I have one?...of course I stinking didn't, only -3.5's
and -4's...AAAARGH!
...:)
Frank
Do not archive or laugh at my idiocy!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hinde, Frank
George (Corvallis)
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 7:41 PM
Subject: RE: RV7-List: Empanage fairings
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
--> <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Acually I did rivet it on and kinda forgot the rubber seal.
Thanks all the same...:)
Frank
Almost painting
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: RV7-List: Empanage fairings
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
My bad! I thought you meant the empennage fairing, the fiberglass one.
Pretty sure I dimpled the gap cover and c-sunk the fuselage. I'd be
very tempted to rivet it on, but then you can't change the rubber seal
easily.
)_( Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: RV7-List: Empanage fairings
> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> Tinnerman washers.
>
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D (907 hours)
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
> To: <rv7-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 1:30 PM
> Subject: RV7-List: Empanage fairings
>
>
>> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
>> <frank.hinde@hp.com>
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> The little alu fairings that go under the empanage that are screwed
to
>> the fuse upper angle.
>>
>> The plans imply that you countersink through the fairing into the
skin
>> and angle. As the fairing is only 25thou thick, the C/S will open up
the
>> hole quite a bit. My tempatation is to dimple the holes for the #6
>> screws and then C/S the fuse underneath.
>>
>> The probem is that the C/S would then have to be deeper and I'm a
little
>> nervous of cutting a c/s too far into the angles as these are
structural
>> elements.
>>
>> What did others do?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> RV7a almost at the paint!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV7-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>
>
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