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1. 06:05 AM - Re: RV 7 wing kit for sale (Bob Collins)
2. 06:50 AM - Re: RV 7 wing kit for sale (Steve Eberhart)
3. 07:42 AM - Re: RV 7 wing kit for sale (Joseph F. Giallo, II)
4. 08:10 AM - Re: RV 7 wing kit for sale (Jamie Painter)
5. 11:33 PM - Re: RV 7 wing kit for sale - Medical (J2j3h4@aol.com)
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| Subject: | RV 7 wing kit for sale |
Jim. If you really DO want to fly, don't be so quick. It's a fairly
common
thing, actually, to not be able to pass a medical per se, but then
receive a
medical certificate under special issuance. I haven't "lost" my medical
yet...mostly because I haven't told the FAA about my Meniere's Disease.
I
have grounded myself and I am working to improve the situation. But in
my
case, once you've got it, it's a disqualifying medical condition. Case
closed, right? Not necessarily. The fact the local AME can't sign off a
medical doesn't mean you can't fly. You just have to convince Okhlahoma
City
to grant you one under special issuance. That's a pain in the neck but
--
again in my case -- buys me a little more time to (a) work the
bureacracy
and (b) come up with the dough to finish the plane.
Like I said, consider waiting a bit and finding out more about your
chances
of flying before you give up.
Sure, the FAA is a pain in the neck, but believe me, it's nothing
compared
to the "tire kickers" in the RV community who will waste your time and
offer
you 20 cents on the dollar for your project.
One other thing, let's assume you can't even get a special
issuance...why
not build the plane anyway and sell it. You'll have fun building it, and
you'll get more money back?
Bob Collins
St. Paul, Minn.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of J2j3h4@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:41 AM
Subject: RV7-List: RV 7 wing kit for sale
Since I have been informed that I cannot pass my medical, I am forced to
abandon my RV 7 project and have a wing kit for sale. It has not been
started and is still in the original shipping crate. I am asking $5200
for
it, which was the price from Van's when I bought it, but will consider
reasonable offers. The current price at Van's was $5800 the last time I
checked.
I also have a lot of miscellaneous items - instruments, elevator
electric
trim kit, wet vacuum
pump, air/oil separator, empennage fairing, and probably a few other
small
things lying around.
Please call or email if you need any of these.
Do not archive.
Jim Hasper
615-483-0306
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| Subject: | Re: RV 7 wing kit for sale |
--> RV7-List message posted by: Steve Eberhart <steve@newtech.com>
Be sure you are working with a SENIOR Medical Examiner. They have a lot
more latitude in making local determinations and seem to require less
oversight from Oklahoma City.
Steve Eberhart
RV-7A, still working on ordering the fuselage and filling out the order
form for the finish kit.
Bob Collins wrote:
> Jim. If you really DO want to fly, don't be so quick. It's a fairly
> common thing, actually, to not be able to pass a medical per se, but
> then receive a medical certificate under special issuance. I haven't
> "lost" my medical yet...mostly because I haven't told the FAA about my
> Meniere's Disease. I have grounded myself and I am working to improve
> the situation. But in my case, once you've got it, it's a
> disqualifying medical condition. Case closed, right? Not necessarily.
> The fact the local AME can't sign off a medical doesn't mean you can't
> fly. You just have to convince Okhlahoma City to grant you one under
> special issuance. That's a pain in the neck but -- again in my case --
> buys me a little more time to (a) work the bureacracy and (b) come up
> with the dough to finish the plane.
>
> Like I said, consider waiting a bit and finding out more about your
> chances of flying before you give up.
>
> Sure, the FAA is a pain in the neck, but believe me, it's nothing
> compared to the "tire kickers" in the RV community who will waste your
> time and offer you 20 cents on the dollar for your project.
>
> One other thing, let's assume you can't even get a special
> issuance...why not build the plane anyway and sell it. You'll have fun
> building it, and you'll get more money back?
>
> Bob Collins
> St. Paul, Minn.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> *J2j3h4@aol.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:41 AM
> *To:* rv7-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV7-List: RV 7 wing kit for sale
>
> Since I have been informed that I cannot pass my medical, I am
> forced to abandon my RV 7 project and have a wing kit for sale.
> It has not been started and is still in the original shipping
> crate. I am asking $5200 for it, which was the price from Van's
> when I bought it, but will consider reasonable offers. The
> current price at Van's was $5800 the last time I checked.
>
> I also have a lot of miscellaneous items - instruments, elevator
> electric trim kit, wet vacuum
> pump, air/oil separator, empennage fairing, and probably a few
> other small things lying around.
>
> Please call or email if you need any of these.
>
> Do not archive.
>
> Jim Hasper
>
> 615-483-0306
>
>*
>
>.com/Navigator?RV7-List
>*
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV 7 wing kit for sale |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Joseph F. Giallo, II" <jgiallo@mindspring.com>
Jim,
I also highly recommend finding a "consultant" AME to discuss your
situation. This is NOT the AME to whom you go for your actual medical
exam. The value is that you can have a candid discussion about your
total situation and it is in confidence. You cannot do this with the AME
to whom you are submitting your medical application. He/she is required
to factor any information you give them into the evaluation.
As Steve mentions, going to a senior AME has advantages. Also, as I
learned at OSH this year during the FAA seminar on medicals, there are
many AMEs who don't seem to know what conditions they can approve on the
spot without a special issuance. It is best to research the situation on
the FAA web site and find that consultant AME to learn exactly what
hoops you have to jump through to get it done.
Good luck,
Joe
Steve Eberhart wrote:
> --> RV7-List message posted by: Steve Eberhart <steve@newtech.com>
>
> Be sure you are working with a SENIOR Medical Examiner. They have a
> lot more latitude in making local determinations and seem to require
> less oversight from Oklahoma City.
>
> Steve Eberhart
> RV-7A, still working on ordering the fuselage and filling out the
> order form for the finish kit.
>
> Bob Collins wrote:
>
>> Jim. If you really DO want to fly, don't be so quick. It's a fairly
>> common thing, actually, to not be able to pass a medical per se, but
>> then receive a medical certificate under special issuance. I haven't
>> "lost" my medical yet...mostly because I haven't told the FAA about
>> my Meniere's Disease. I have grounded myself and I am working to
>> improve the situation. But in my case, once you've got it, it's a
>> disqualifying medical condition. Case closed, right? Not
>> necessarily. The fact the local AME can't sign off a medical doesn't
>> mean you can't fly. You just have to convince Okhlahoma City to grant
>> you one under special issuance. That's a pain in the neck but --
>> again in my case -- buys me a little more time to (a) work the
>> bureacracy and (b) come up with the dough to finish the plane.
>>
>> Like I said, consider waiting a bit and finding out more about your
>> chances of flying before you give up.
>>
>> Sure, the FAA is a pain in the neck, but believe me, it's nothing
>> compared to the "tire kickers" in the RV community who will waste
>> your time and offer you 20 cents on the dollar for your project.
>>
>> One other thing, let's assume you can't even get a special
>> issuance...why not build the plane anyway and sell it. You'll have
>> fun building it, and you'll get more money back?
>>
>> Bob Collins
>> St. Paul, Minn.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> *From:* owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
>> *J2j3h4@aol.com
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:41 AM
>> *To:* rv7-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* RV7-List: RV 7 wing kit for sale
>>
>> Since I have been informed that I cannot pass my medical, I am
>> forced to abandon my RV 7 project and have a wing kit for sale.
>> It has not been started and is still in the original shipping
>> crate. I am asking $5200 for it, which was the price from Van's
>> when I bought it, but will consider reasonable offers. The
>> current price at Van's was $5800 the last time I checked.
>> I also have a lot of miscellaneous items - instruments,
>> elevator
>> electric trim kit, wet vacuum
>> pump, air/oil separator, empennage fairing, and probably a few
>> other small things lying around.
>> Please call or email if you need any of these.
>> Do not archive.
>> Jim Hasper
>> 615-483-0306
>>
>> *
>>
>> .com/Navigator?RV7-List
>> *
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV 7 wing kit for sale |
--> RV7-List message posted by: Jamie Painter <jamie@jpainter.org>
Also, you may wish to wait on the Medical. One of our EAA chapter
members who is an AME mentioned that FAA is going to start allowing
AME's to grant some special issuances. I'm not aware of the details at
all, but it may be something worth checking into.
do not archive
Jamie Painter
http://rv.jpainter.org
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| Subject: | Re: RV 7 wing kit for sale - Medical |
Sincere thanks to all who wrote to give me advice about my medical. I
really do appreciate your concern, but will explain further why I've decided to
give up the RV 7.
I was already flying under a special issuance medical due to having a pace
maker and stents in 2 arteries. Under the SIM I was required to periodically
submit full medical data (stress test, EKG, pacemaker test and log, etc) even
before the medical was due for reexamination. I sent in the last submittal
a couple of months before the medical was due to expire, but didn't hear
anything back until after it had expired. I then received a letter from the FFA
stating that they had reviewed my records and found that I was not eligible
for any class license. They further stated "if you reapply, we will have no
choice to deny you".
>From this, and AOPA agrees, I infer that they have not actually denied my
medical, and I am therefore still eligible for Sport Pilot. I considered
contesting their ruling, since my cardiologist says there has been no change in
my
condition since my previous submittal, but I decided that I would then be
playing Russian roulette. That is, they could deny me at any time, and then my
flying options would be even more limited - ultralight, glider, or motor
glider.
I agree that building is a great joy, but rather than finishing the RV 7 and
then selling it, I've decided to build a Sonex instead. The Sonex is the
closest thing to an RV 7 that I could find in the LSA class. (Sorry, but the
RV 12 just doesn't cut it - it's not aerobatic and it won't be available for
another year). After all, I'm now 70 years old and don't want to wait the
year or 2 to finish the RV 7 and then another year or 2 to build the Sonex, and
I can't afford a ready-built. I did fly gliders a bit and in fact soloed,
but it's a 2 hour drive to the nearest glider club. There is a commercial
glider operation about a 1 hour drive away, but they are VERY expensive,
especially in the learning stage where you are concentrating on a particular task
and
often get less than an hour flight per tow (maybe only a few minutes if you
are practicing recovery from tow line breaks).
Thanks again for the advice and concern. It's great to know such a caring,
helpful, bunch of guys.
Jim Hasper
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