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Sun 08/27/06


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 08:33 AM - Re: Rant, question, suggestion: errors in plans/drawings (Brian Gawronski)
     2. 09:39 AM - Re: Rant, question, suggestion: errors in plans/drawings (Bob Collins)
     3. 11:57 AM - Cylinders: ECI vs Superior or Others (Darrell Reiley)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:33:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rant, question, suggestion: errors in plans/drawings
    From: "Brian Gawronski" <six_rabbits@yahoo.com>
    --> RV7-List message posted by: "Brian Gawronski" <six_rabbits@yahoo.com> I feel your pain. Ive wasted countless hours attempting to decipher Vans instructions. I find them poorly organized, lacking necessary detail, and at times ambiguous. After designing a great airplane, the single best thing Van could do for his customers would be to document the assembly process from the perspective of a first-time builder. Really build a kit, start to finish, exactly according to the instructions. This would allow them to find and fix errors and omissions. I believe Vans thinks their plans are accurate and complete, but the authors perhaps know too much about the assembly to realize how much they take for granted. However, not maintaining rigorous revision control is inexcusable, and indicates a lack of respect for their customers. Id happily buy the documentation that would eliminate the hours spent staring at the plans instead of building, or worse, having to disassemble and rebuild, because I cant read minds or see into the future. Read ahead? Okay, but lets please be reasonable. This is supposed to be fun, right? -------- Brian Gawronski RV-7A Empennage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=57743#57743


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    Time: 09:39:45 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net>
    Subject: Rant, question, suggestion: errors in plans/drawings
    --> RV7-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net> >I checked dwg 11 > exploded > view for the F633 bolts; it's inconsistent with the section > view on dwg > 22 also. Errors/inconsistencies #742 & 743 (guesstimate :-) ) > noted in > the plans and/or instructions. It's been awhile -- two years -- but I vaguely remember this part. However, I didn't bother too much with the plans because there was -- as I recall -- another issue which solved the question for me -- access to the bolt head (or maybe it was a nut) in the future. Anyway, as I recall -- without the specifics -- there was no way for me to EASILY check on those nuts (to see if they were working loose except if I oriented them one way (I have removable floors). There have been certain phases of the build, I've noticed, where it's helpful for me to slow down a bit and say "OK, this might be the easiest way to BUILD it, but what's the easiest and best way to accommodate an inspection once I'm built. YMMV. I think the suggestion is a good one. I think the thread could prove helpful ONLY if we can separate the suggestion from characterizing other people one way or the other. I'm loathe to have another week of deleting messages that really have no value to the build process, especially when the essence of the thread is about building. Do not archive.


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    Time: 11:57:33 AM PST US
    From: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Cylinders: ECI vs Superior or Others
    --> RV7-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com> I'm looking for decision support To all the Engine Gurus and Roll your own engine builders out there, which is the cylinder kit to by in todays market. So many things are changing. It seems like everyday products are being improved and or modified in some way. I will not be going with standard compression pistons and have not settled on the type of pistons or the ratio yet. I would like to discuss overall quality, casting, manufacturing methods etc... Which will require a port clean up? Who's cleaned up their fins from casing issues? Is anyone using a cryogenic process on wear parts? Etc... Any information or advice is appreciated. Thanks in advance! __________________ Darrell Reiley RV7A "Reiley Rocket" N622DR Reserved CenTex_RV_Aircraft-owner@yahoogroups.com __________________________________________________




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