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1. 06:59 AM - Gear legs was Tires Tires Tires (Michael T. Ice)
2. 07:48 AM - Re: Gear legs was Tires Tires Tires (Dan Checkoway)
3. 09:50 AM - Re: Gear legs was Tires Tires Tires (Michael Ice)
4. 09:58 AM - Re: Gear legs was Tires Tires Tires (Michael Ice)
5. 07:35 PM - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser - November! (Matt Dralle)
6. 09:14 PM - Re: Gear legs was Tires Tires Tires (Dan Checkoway)
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| Subject: | Gear legs was Tires Tires Tires |
Bevan, Larry,
Mr. Harmon Lange makes the gear legs for Van's. If you call him and explain to
him what you want to do he can make the gear legs for you with the axle 1 " longer.
Also Robbie Grove at Grove Aircraft has a great wheel and brake package
for the 6" wheels with the 1.25" diameter axles.
Harmon Lange telephone 503-397-1478
Grove Aircraft 619-562-1268
I don't know where you can get a larger nose wheel fork. I am looking for a larger
tail wheel fork so that I can use a pneumatic wheel and tire combination along
the lines of a "Scott" tail wheel.
Mike
RV-9 Electrical and then Finish Kit
----- Original Message -----
From: B Tomm
To: rv7-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 12:06 PM
Subject: RE: RV7-List: TiresTiresTires
I would like info on the larger axle length. For us Nose draggers, is anyone
aware of a supplier or interested in producing a larger nose wheel fork?
Bevan
RV7A finish kit
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From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Ice
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:45 AM
To: rv7-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV7-List: TiresTiresTires
Larry,
The stock Van's axle is too short for 6" wheels and tires. A larger axle length
can be special ordered. I don't have the gents name with me here at work but
if your interested let me know and I will post the info later. I have a set
of gear legs ordered so that I can run the 6" wheels with larger tires. Of course
this opens up all sorts of other concerns, increased drag, increased weight,
wheel pants won't fit etc. But with the increased diameter and width of the
larger tires increasing the non-standard airport safety I believe it is a good
trade off. I had the same concerns as you with non-standard airports, in Alaska
there are a lot of them.
Mike Ice
RV-9
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry L. Tompkins, P.E." <tompkinsl@integra.net>
Date: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 7:36 am
Subject: Re: RV7-List: TiresTiresTires
To: rv7-list@matronics.com
> How well does the small tire size work on backcountry strips? I
> enjoy going to Idaho in my Cherokee 180, but hope to put the
> shorter field capability of the -7 to use to get to some of the
> strips I have been bypassing.
>
> I am concerned that the small tires won't handle rougher strips
> very well. Are the wheel pants easy to get off? Could one remove
> the wheel pants and put on a spare mounted set of 6" tires for
> those backcountry occasions?
>
> Larry Tompkins
>
> Installing antennas and wiring in wings, fuselage next.
>
> TomkinsL@integra.net
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| Subject: | Re: Gear legs was Tires Tires Tires |
And then the question would be...
With longer axles, would Van's standard wheel pants fit when you take
your 6s off and you're using your 5s?
)_( Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael T. Ice
To: rv7-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 6:58 AM
Subject: RV7-List: Gear legs was Tires Tires Tires
Bevan, Larry,
Mr. Harmon Lange makes the gear legs for Van's. If you call him and
explain to him what you want to do he can make the gear legs for you
with the axle 1 " longer. Also Robbie Grove at Grove Aircraft has a
great wheel and brake package for the 6" wheels with the 1.25" diameter
axles.
Harmon Lange telephone 503-397-1478
Grove Aircraft 619-562-1268
I don't know where you can get a larger nose wheel fork. I am looking
for a larger tail wheel fork so that I can use a pneumatic wheel and
tire combination along the lines of a "Scott" tail wheel.
Mike
RV-9 Electrical and then Finish Kit
----- Original Message -----
From: B Tomm
To: rv7-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 12:06 PM
Subject: RE: RV7-List: TiresTiresTires
I would like info on the larger axle length. For us Nose draggers,
is anyone aware of a supplier or interested in producing a larger nose
wheel fork?
Bevan
RV7A finish kit
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From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Ice
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:45 AM
To: rv7-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV7-List: TiresTiresTires
Larry,
The stock Van's axle is too short for 6" wheels and tires. A larger
axle length can be special ordered. I don't have the gents name with me
here at work but if your interested let me know and I will post the info
later. I have a set of gear legs ordered so that I can run the 6" wheels
with larger tires. Of course this opens up all sorts of other concerns,
increased drag, increased weight, wheel pants won't fit etc. But with
the increased diameter and width of the larger tires increasing the
non-standard airport safety I believe it is a good trade off. I had the
same concerns as you with non-standard airports, in Alaska there are a
lot of them.
Mike Ice
RV-9
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry L. Tompkins, P.E." <tompkinsl@integra.net>
Date: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 7:36 am
Subject: Re: RV7-List: TiresTiresTires
To: rv7-list@matronics.com
> How well does the small tire size work on backcountry strips? I
> enjoy going to Idaho in my Cherokee 180, but hope to put the
> shorter field capability of the -7 to use to get to some of the
> strips I have been bypassing.
>
> I am concerned that the small tires won't handle rougher strips
> very well. Are the wheel pants easy to get off? Could one remove
> the wheel pants and put on a spare mounted set of 6" tires for
> those backcountry occasions?
>
> Larry Tompkins
>
> Installing antennas and wiring in wings, fuselage next.
>
> TomkinsL@integra.net
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| Subject: | Re: Gear legs was Tires Tires Tires |
Dan,
Of course not. Or probably not, I just assumed no, I have not checked into it.
Once you take this path you initiate the cascade effect where one change causes
many changes. Mission profiles dictate changes and where I intend to operate
this aircraft, larger tires and possibly skiis will benifit from the longer axle.
Many of the airports in Alaska are gravel and I use that term loosely, rocks
over 2" in diameter shouldn't be called gravel, or the surface of the runway
is very soft and the additional flotation of the larger tire size will be safer
for operations.
I agree with any statements that this will cause additional drag and expense and
time. I also agree the RV-9 is not meant to be a "Bush" plane but I think it
may prove to be very good in this environment.
Respectfully,
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Checkoway <dan@rvproject.com>
Subject: Re: RV7-List: Gear legs was Tires Tires Tires
> And then the question would be...
>
> With longer axles, would Van's standard wheel pants fit when you
> take your 6s off and you're using your 5s?
>
> )_( Dan
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael T. Ice
> To: rv7-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 6:58 AM
> Subject: RV7-List: Gear legs was Tires Tires Tires
>
>
> Bevan, Larry,
>
> Mr. Harmon Lange makes the gear legs for Van's. If you call him
> and explain to him what you want to do he can make the gear legs
> for you with the axle 1 " longer. Also Robbie Grove at Grove
> Aircraft has a great wheel and brake package for the 6" wheels
> with the 1.25" diameter axles.
>
> Harmon Lange telephone 503-397-1478
> Grove Aircraft 619-562-1268
>
> I don't know where you can get a larger nose wheel fork. I am
> looking for a larger tail wheel fork so that I can use a pneumatic
> wheel and tire combination along the lines of a "Scott" tail
> wheel.
>
> Mike
> RV-9 Electrical and then Finish Kit
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: B Tomm
> To: rv7-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 12:06 PM
> Subject: RE: RV7-List: TiresTiresTires
>
>
> I would like info on the larger axle length. For us Nose
> draggers, is anyone aware of a supplier or interested in producing
> a larger nose wheel fork?
>
> Bevan
> RV7A finish kit
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
> From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-
> list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Ice
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:45 AM
> To: rv7-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV7-List: TiresTiresTires
>
>
> Larry,
>
> The stock Van's axle is too short for 6" wheels and tires. A
> larger axle length can be special ordered. I don't have the gents
> name with me here at work but if your interested let me know and I
> will post the info later. I have a set of gear legs ordered so
> that I can run the 6" wheels with larger tires. Of course this
> opens up all sorts of other concerns, increased drag, increased
> weight, wheel pants won't fit etc. But with the increased diameter
> and width of the larger tires increasing the non-standard airport
> safety I believe it is a good trade off. I had the same concerns
> as you with non-standard airports, in Alaska there are a lot of them.
>
> Mike Ice
>
> RV-9
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry L. Tompkins, P.E." <tompkinsl@integra.net>
> Date: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 7:36 am
> Subject: Re: RV7-List: TiresTiresTires
> To: rv7-list@matronics.com
>
> > How well does the small tire size work on backcountry
> strips? I
> > enjoy going to Idaho in my Cherokee 180, but hope to put the
> > shorter field capability of the -7 to use to get to some of
> the
> > strips I have been bypassing.
> >
> > I am concerned that the small tires won't handle rougher
> strips
> > very well. Are the wheel pants easy to get off? Could one
> remove
> > the wheel pants and put on a spare mounted set of 6" tires
> for
> > those backcountry occasions?
> >
> > Larry Tompkins
> >
> > Installing antennas and wiring in wings, fuselage next.
> >
> > TomkinsL@integra.net
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gear legs was Tires Tires Tires |
Dan,
Oops, I forgot, I wont have 5 inch wheels and tires.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Checkoway <dan@rvproject.com>
Subject: Re: RV7-List: Gear legs was Tires Tires Tires
> And then the question would be...
>
> With longer axles, would Van's standard wheel pants fit when you
> take your 6s off and you're using your 5s?
>
> )_( Dan
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael T. Ice
> To: rv7-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 6:58 AM
> Subject: RV7-List: Gear legs was Tires Tires Tires
>
>
> Bevan, Larry,
>
> Mr. Harmon Lange makes the gear legs for Van's. If you call him
> and explain to him what you want to do he can make the gear legs
> for you with the axle 1 " longer. Also Robbie Grove at Grove
> Aircraft has a great wheel and brake package for the 6" wheels
> with the 1.25" diameter axles.
>
> Harmon Lange telephone 503-397-1478
> Grove Aircraft 619-562-1268
>
> I don't know where you can get a larger nose wheel fork. I am
> looking for a larger tail wheel fork so that I can use a pneumatic
> wheel and tire combination along the lines of a "Scott" tail
> wheel.
>
> Mike
> RV-9 Electrical and then Finish Kit
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: B Tomm
> To: rv7-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 12:06 PM
> Subject: RE: RV7-List: TiresTiresTires
>
>
> I would like info on the larger axle length. For us Nose
> draggers, is anyone aware of a supplier or interested in producing
> a larger nose wheel fork?
>
> Bevan
> RV7A finish kit
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
> From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-
> list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Ice
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:45 AM
> To: rv7-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV7-List: TiresTiresTires
>
>
> Larry,
>
> The stock Van's axle is too short for 6" wheels and tires. A
> larger axle length can be special ordered. I don't have the gents
> name with me here at work but if your interested let me know and I
> will post the info later. I have a set of gear legs ordered so
> that I can run the 6" wheels with larger tires. Of course this
> opens up all sorts of other concerns, increased drag, increased
> weight, wheel pants won't fit etc. But with the increased diameter
> and width of the larger tires increasing the non-standard airport
> safety I believe it is a good trade off. I had the same concerns
> as you with non-standard airports, in Alaska there are a lot of them.
>
> Mike Ice
>
> RV-9
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry L. Tompkins, P.E." <tompkinsl@integra.net>
> Date: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 7:36 am
> Subject: Re: RV7-List: TiresTiresTires
> To: rv7-list@matronics.com
>
> > How well does the small tire size work on backcountry
> strips? I
> > enjoy going to Idaho in my Cherokee 180, but hope to put the
> > shorter field capability of the -7 to use to get to some of
> the
> > strips I have been bypassing.
> >
> > I am concerned that the small tires won't handle rougher
> strips
> > very well. Are the wheel pants easy to get off? Could one
> remove
> > the wheel pants and put on a spare mounted set of 6" tires
> for
> > those backcountry occasions?
> >
> > Larry Tompkins
> >
> > Installing antennas and wiring in wings, fuselage next.
> >
> > TomkinsL@integra.net
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gear legs was Tires Tires Tires |
Mike,
All the power to you for doing it your way! But...now of course I do
expect to see you & your -9 in one of the sequences in Big Rocks & Long
Props, Volume 3. 8^)
http://www.bigrockslongprops.com
http://bentpropproductions.com
(if anybody hasn't seen Vol 1, check it out, it's wild! I'm getting Vol
2 soon...)
)_( Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Ice
To: rv7-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: RV7-List: Gear legs was Tires Tires Tires
Dan,
Of course not. Or probably not, I just assumed no, I have not checked
into it. Once you take this path you initiate the cascade effect where
one change causes many changes. Mission profiles dictate changes and
where I intend to operate this aircraft, larger tires and possibly skiis
will benifit from the longer axle. Many of the airports in Alaska are
gravel and I use that term loosely, rocks over 2" in diameter shouldn't
be called gravel, or the surface of the runway is very soft and the
additional flotation of the larger tire size will be safer for
operations.
I agree with any statements that this will cause additional drag and
expense and time. I also agree the RV-9 is not meant to be a "Bush"
plane but I think it may prove to be very good in this environment.
Respectfully,
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Checkoway <dan@rvproject.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 6:48 am
Subject: Re: RV7-List: Gear legs was Tires Tires Tires
To: rv7-list@matronics.com
> And then the question would be...
>
> With longer axles, would Van's standard wheel pants fit when you
> take your 6s off and you're using your 5s?
>
> )_( Dan
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael T. Ice
> To: rv7-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 6:58 AM
> Subject: RV7-List: Gear legs was Tires Tires Tires
>
>
> Bevan, Larry,
>
> Mr. Harmon Lange makes the gear legs for Van's. If you call him
> and explain to him what you want to do he can make the gear legs
> for you with the axle 1 " longer. Also Robbie Grove at Grove
> Aircraft has a great wheel and brake package for the 6" wheels
> with the 1.25" diameter axles.
>
> Harmon Lange telephone 503-397-1478
> Grove Aircraft 619-562-1268
>
> I don't know where you can get a larger nose wheel fork. I am
> looking for a larger tail wheel fork so that I can use a pneumatic
> wheel and tire combination along the lines of a "Scott" tail
> wheel.
>
> Mike
> RV-9 Electrical and then Finish Kit
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: B Tomm
> To: rv7-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 12:06 PM
> Subject: RE: RV7-List: TiresTiresTires
>
>
> I would like info on the larger axle length. For us Nose
> draggers, is anyone aware of a supplier or interested in producing
> a larger nose wheel fork?
>
> Bevan
> RV7A finish kit
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
> From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-
> list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Ice
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:45 AM
> To: rv7-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV7-List: TiresTiresTires
>
>
> Larry,
>
> The stock Van's axle is too short for 6" wheels and tires. A
> larger axle length can be special ordered. I don't have the gents
> name with me here at work but if your interested let me know and I
> will post the info later. I have a set of gear legs ordered so
> that I can run the 6" wheels with larger tires. Of course this
> opens up all sorts of other concerns, increased drag, increased
> weight, wheel pants won't fit etc. But with the increased diameter
> and width of the larger tires increasing the non-standard airport
> safety I believe it is a good trade off. I had the same concerns
> as you with non-standard airports, in Alaska there are a lot of
them.
>
> Mike Ice
>
> RV-9
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry L. Tompkins, P.E." <tompkinsl@integra.net>
> Date: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 7:36 am
> Subject: Re: RV7-List: TiresTiresTires
> To: rv7-list@matronics.com
>
> > How well does the small tire size work on backcountry
> strips? I
> > enjoy going to Idaho in my Cherokee 180, but hope to put the
> > shorter field capability of the -7 to use to get to some of
> the
> > strips I have been bypassing.
> >
> > I am concerned that the small tires won't handle rougher
> strips
> > very well. Are the wheel pants easy to get off? Could one
> remove
> > the wheel pants and put on a spare mounted set of 6" tires
> for
> > those backcountry occasions?
> >
> > Larry Tompkins
> >
> > Installing antennas and wiring in wings, fuselage next.
> >
> > TomkinsL@integra.net
>
>
>
>
>
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