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| Subject: | Re: Z-bracket height |
Michael, how were you able to determine the fairings were the culprit.
My antennae is just before the spar, both comm and transponder. I used
the Van's fairings and intersections. I had RF interference but was
caused by the Coax cable being to close to other wiring.
Tad Sargent 7A
----- Original Message -----
From: g4mech@sbcglobal.net
To: rv7-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 12:24 AM
Subject: RE: RV7-List: Z-bracket height
Is anyone having P-Static issues? Has anyone been putting static wicks
on? My gear leg fairings are putting out some serious static that gets
into my comms. My ant are just aft of the spar. My leg fairing finishing
cuffs are just crap, has anyone used others that are pre made? Thanks
Michael Crawford
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
llsbiii3@netzero.net
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 9:45 AM
To: rv7-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV7-List: Z-bracket height
My left wing tank overlaped the leading edge by about the 3/64, while
on the right wing everything is fitting close. I assemble the entire
wing skins with lots of clecos, 50% in skins and 33% in the spars. I
match drilled the right wing skins last night. With all the clecos in
place I can detect no mid wing sag. This includes using 1/8 clecos in
the tank skin to plate-nuts, as they line the tank with everything else.
If you have drilled the tank sking for the screws, perhaps you could
put a few in place to see if is makes a diferance. In my opinion 3/64
pre-paint does not seem like much to me. I am actually amazed how well
all the parts fit.
Sherman Butler
Idaho Falls
Wings
do not archive
From: "Michael D. Cencula" <matronics@cencula.com>
Subject: RV7-List: Z-bracket height
I'm working on my -7A wings and am to the point of drilling the
Z-brackets.
The problem is that the Z-brackets seem to be a little bit too high.
I've
got about 3/64 gap between the trailing edge of the tank skin and the
leading
edge of the main skin. Does anyone know if this is normal or will it
close
up when screwing the tank to the spar? I can close the gap by
pressing the
tank towards the spar with 30-40 lbs of force, but I can see that it
flexes
the baffle slightly in the process.
Thanks,
Mike
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| Subject: | Z-bracket height |
When I remove the cuffs the problem stops. Coax is double sometime
triple shielded, I don't see how you would get any RF through the coax
but hey you never know I guess.
Michael Crawford
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tadsargent
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 4:44 AM
Subject: Re: RV7-List: Z-bracket height
Michael, how were you able to determine the fairings were the culprit.
My antennae is just before the spar, both comm and transponder. I used
the Van's fairings and intersections. I had RF interference but was
caused by the Coax cable being to close to other wiring.
Tad Sargent 7A
----- Original Message -----
From: g4mech@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 12:24 AM
Subject: RE: RV7-List: Z-bracket height
Is anyone having P-Static issues? Has anyone been putting static wicks
on? My gear leg fairings are putting out some serious static that gets
into my comms. My ant are just aft of the spar. My leg fairing finishing
cuffs are just crap, has anyone used others that are pre made? Thanks
Michael Crawford
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
llsbiii3@netzero.net
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 9:45 AM
Subject: RV7-List: Z-bracket height
My left wing tank overlaped the leading edge by about the 3/64, while on
the right wing everything is fitting close. I assemble the entire wing
skins with lots of clecos, 50% in skins and 33% in the spars. I match
drilled the right wing skins last night. With all the clecos in place I
can detect no mid wing sag. This includes using 1/8 clecos in the tank
skin to plate-nuts, as they line the tank with everything else. If you
have drilled the tank sking for the screws, perhaps you could put a few
in place to see if is makes a diferance. In my opinion 3/64 pre-paint
does not seem like much to me. I am actually amazed how well all the
parts fit.
Sherman Butler
Idaho Falls
Wings
do not archive
From: "Michael D. Cencula" <matronics@cencula.com>
Subject: RV7-List: Z-bracket height
I'm working on my -7A wings and am to the point of drilling the
Z-brackets.
The problem is that the Z-brackets seem to be a little bit too high.
I've
got about 3/64 gap between the trailing edge of the tank skin and the
leading
edge of the main skin. Does anyone know if this is normal or will it
close
up when screwing the tank to the spar? I can close the gap by pressing
the
tank towards the spar with 30-40 lbs of force, but I can see that it
flexes
the baffle slightly in the process.
Thanks,
Mike
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