---------------------------------------------------------- RV7-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 03/31/07: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:06 AM - Re: Left Elevator - rivets don't fit (Don Hall) 2. 07:38 AM - Re: Left Elevator - rivets don't fit (Greg Vouga) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:46 AM PST US From: "Don Hall" Subject: RE: RV7-List: Left Elevator - rivets don't fit Also, go online and find a drill bit set that has all the wire gauge size (#XX) drill bits from at least 1 to 60. Add that to your shop tool collection. It will come in handy over and over to be able to find the exact size bit you need for a given task. ****************************************** Don Hall N517DG (registered) rv7 fuselage http://rv7.donka.net ****************************************** -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott R. Shook Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:41 PM Subject: RE: RV7-List: Left Elevator - rivets don't fit Like Andrew said...7/64" Scott R. Shook RV-7A (Building) N696JS (Reserved) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of andrew phillips Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 04:55 Subject: Re: RV7-List: Left Elevator - rivets don't fit dill them to 7/64" Bruce Swayze wrote: > > Hi Everybody, > I'm working on the left elevator for my RV-7A, and I ran into a > frustrating problem with some of the blind rivets required. There are > 4 blind rivets on the top and 4 on the bottom of the skin, that hold > the skin to the outboard end of the E-606PP Trim Spar. This is the aft > spar on the elevator that carries the trim tab, and these are the > rivets forward and to the left of the little tabs that you bend over > on the skin surfaces. The rivets called for are MK-319-BS blind > rivets. They have brass-colored shafts. I tried every one of the > rivets included with my empennage kit, and none of them will fit in a > #40 dimpled hole. I tried a #30 hole in a piece of scrap, and it's way > too big. Nothing about this is mentioned on the drawings or in the > plans. All the other holes in this part are #40, and the standard > AN326AD3-3.5 rivets fit just fine. Am I missing something? Did I get a > bum batch of pop rivets? Or do I drill out the holes a little bit > bigger? If so, what size? I'm wondering if anyone else ran into this. > Thanks. > > Bruce Swayze > RV-7A Empennage > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:03 AM PST US From: "Greg Vouga" Subject: RE: RV7-List: Left Elevator - rivets don't fit Yes! The super drill bit set is one of the most used tools in my shop. Harbor Freight has a cheap titanium set that is on sale more often than not for less than $20. The bits are okay, but I replaced al the common bits (#40, #30, #12, #19) as they dulled with better quality. I always have the bit size that I need. Greg >From: "Don Hall" >To: >Subject: RE: RV7-List: Left Elevator - rivets don't fit >Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 08:05:39 -0500 > > >Also, go online and find a drill bit set that has all the wire gauge size >(#XX) drill bits from at least 1 to 60. >Add that to your shop tool collection. It will come in handy over and over >to be able to find the exact size bit you need for a given task. > >****************************************** > Don Hall > N517DG (registered) > rv7 fuselage > http://rv7.donka.net >****************************************** > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott R. Shook >Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:41 PM >To: rv7-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: RV7-List: Left Elevator - rivets don't fit > > >Like Andrew said...7/64" > > >Scott R. Shook >RV-7A (Building) >N696JS (Reserved) > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of andrew phillips >Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 04:55 >To: rv7-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV7-List: Left Elevator - rivets don't fit > > > >dill them to 7/64" > >Bruce Swayze wrote: > > > > > Hi Everybody, > > I'm working on the left elevator for my RV-7A, and I ran into a > > frustrating problem with some of the blind rivets required. There are > > 4 blind rivets on the top and 4 on the bottom of the skin, that hold > > the skin to the outboard end of the E-606PP Trim Spar. This is the aft > > spar on the elevator that carries the trim tab, and these are the > > rivets forward and to the left of the little tabs that you bend over > > on the skin surfaces. The rivets called for are MK-319-BS blind > > rivets. They have brass-colored shafts. I tried every one of the > > rivets included with my empennage kit, and none of them will fit in a > > #40 dimpled hole. I tried a #30 hole in a piece of scrap, and it's way > > too big. Nothing about this is mentioned on the drawings or in the > > plans. All the other holes in this part are #40, and the standard > > AN326AD3-3.5 rivets fit just fine. Am I missing something? Did I get a > > bum batch of pop rivets? Or do I drill out the holes a little bit > > bigger? If so, what size? I'm wondering if anyone else ran into this. > > Thanks. > > > > Bruce Swayze > > RV-7A Empennage > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage refinance is hot 1) Rates near 30-yr lows 2) Good credit get intro-rate 4.625%* https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h2a5f&s=4056&p=5117&disc=y&vers=743 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv7-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV7-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv7-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv7-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.