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1. 08:12 AM - Re: Oshkosh (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
2. 11:21 AM - Re: Oshkosh (gbrasch)
3. 12:24 PM - Re: Re: Oshkosh (Randy Pinkston)
4. 01:29 PM - Re: Re: Oshkosh (Scott R. Shook)
5. 04:28 PM - Re: Re: Oshkosh (Michael)
6. 04:30 PM - Re: Re: Oshkosh (Michael)
7. 07:49 PM - Re: RV7-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 02/25/08 (Scott)
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Expect to spend lots of money...What is it $20 per day to camp next to your
airplane...Gee.
Frank
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From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@mat
ronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 7:02 PM
Subject: RV7-List: Oshkosh
Ok here is one for you all..........
I want to fly to Oshkosh this year and I want to camp next to my sweetheart
(RV7). Anyone have any advice, tips, what to expect and anything else?
Mike
RV7
N174WM
408Hrs
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Can anybody give Mike some positive advice? Mike, this will be my 25th "Oshkosh"
and I have never had a bad year. Sure, the weather might get bad but that
is just part of it. They will give you a map of the grounds when you get there,
go over it and pick out what you want to see, because you won't be able to
get it all in, even in a full week. Hope this helps. Glenn
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Glenn Brasch
RV-9A Finishing #90623, O-360
Tucson, Arizona
Van's Aircraft Belt Buckles
http://home.earthlink.net/~gbrasch/
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It's worth it!!!!!last year FREE beach boys concert !!!!!! night shows &
for what you get I thinks it is a better deal than Lakeland!!!! EAA
member Randy Pinkston 705rp
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From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gbrasch
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:18 PM
Subject: RV7-List: Re: Oshkosh
Can anybody give Mike some positive advice? Mike, this will be my 25th
"Oshkosh" and I have never had a bad year. Sure, the weather might get
bad but that is just part of it. They will give you a map of the
grounds when you get there, go over it and pick out what you want to
see, because you won't be able to get it all in, even in a full week.
Hope this helps. Glenn
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Glenn Brasch
RV-9A Finishing #90623, O-360
Tucson, Arizona
Van's Aircraft Belt Buckles
http://home.earthlink.net/~gbrasch/
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=167434#167434
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As an 11 year veteran of OSH, I pretty much plan my year around it. Most
calendars go from Jan to Dec, mine goes from August to July. As long as you
are prepared for OSH, you will have fun.
Walking shoes are the order of the day - never wear flip flops or sandals,
you will hate it. You need the cushion for all the walking.
You will want clothes for any type of weather: shorts and jeans, long sleeve
and short sleeve shirts, light jacket.
Get a small dome tent - not the A-shaped tents; domes usually will not
succumb to some of the storms that blow through. I have yet to have an OSH
without at least one good rain come through.
Tie downs for your plane!
Have a small/medium sized backpack. This will carry your water and snacks
for the day. Bring lots of water and some healthy snacks like granola or
energy bars when you start out for the day. We do this because we tend to
burn a lot more energy walking around and don't like to spend money on OSH
priced snacks. We do buy lunch at the Twin Pines food court.
Don't worry about a bag for goodies; vendors will usually have them. Just
hit one of the exhibit hangars. XM has nice cloth bags that you can use
over and over.
Shade can be your friend there are lots of trees to cop a squat under!
Bring a hat, sunglasses and sunscreen.
We plan our days around the geography of the airport. One day will be for RV
parking, North 40 and Warbirds. One day will be AeroShell square and
hangars. One day will be Vintage and ultralights. One day to hit fly market,
hangars, and AeroShell again. If you're so inclined, take a half day to go
see seaplane base too. One day is just to repeat what we want to see again
and add in the Museum.
I have camped in Camp Scholler every year at OSH, now we have quite the
family compound on ROW 10 south of the West Gate. We have family from AZ,
OH, MI, and NY. Big 20x20 silver tarp tent with about 5 or 6 smaller tents
around it. Look us up!
Scott & Jenni Shook
RV-7A (Building)
N696JS (Reserved)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gbrasch
Sent: Monday, 03 March, 2008 12:18
Subject: RV7-List: Re: Oshkosh
Can anybody give Mike some positive advice? Mike, this will be my 25th
"Oshkosh" and I have never had a bad year. Sure, the weather might get bad
but that is just part of it. They will give you a map of the grounds when
you get there, go over it and pick out what you want to see, because you
won't be able to get it all in, even in a full week. Hope this helps.
Glenn
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Glenn Brasch
RV-9A Finishing #90623, O-360
Tucson, Arizona
Van's Aircraft Belt Buckles
http://home.earthlink.net/~gbrasch/
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=167434#167434
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Thanks Glen!!!!
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From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gbrasch
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 11:18 AM
Subject: RV7-List: Re: Oshkosh
Can anybody give Mike some positive advice? Mike, this will be my 25th
"Oshkosh" and I have never had a bad year. Sure, the weather might get bad
but that is just part of it. They will give you a map of the grounds when
you get there, go over it and pick out what you want to see, because you
won't be able to get it all in, even in a full week. Hope this helps.
Glenn
--------
Glenn Brasch
RV-9A Finishing #90623, O-360
Tucson, Arizona
Van's Aircraft Belt Buckles
http://home.earthlink.net/~gbrasch/
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=167434#167434
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Thanks Scott and Jenni!!!!!!
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From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott R. Shook
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 1:25 PM
Subject: RE: RV7-List: Re: Oshkosh
As an 11 year veteran of OSH, I pretty much plan my year around it. Most
calendars go from Jan to Dec, mine goes from August to July. As long as you
are prepared for OSH, you will have fun.
Walking shoes are the order of the day - never wear flip flops or sandals,
you will hate it. You need the cushion for all the walking.
You will want clothes for any type of weather: shorts and jeans, long sleeve
and short sleeve shirts, light jacket.
Get a small dome tent - not the A-shaped tents; domes usually will not
succumb to some of the storms that blow through. I have yet to have an OSH
without at least one good rain come through.
Tie downs for your plane!
Have a small/medium sized backpack. This will carry your water and snacks
for the day. Bring lots of water and some healthy snacks like granola or
energy bars when you start out for the day. We do this because we tend to
burn a lot more energy walking around and don't like to spend money on OSH
priced snacks. We do buy lunch at the Twin Pines food court.
Don't worry about a bag for goodies; vendors will usually have them. Just
hit one of the exhibit hangars. XM has nice cloth bags that you can use
over and over.
Shade can be your friend there are lots of trees to cop a squat under!
Bring a hat, sunglasses and sunscreen.
We plan our days around the geography of the airport. One day will be for RV
parking, North 40 and Warbirds. One day will be AeroShell square and
hangars. One day will be Vintage and ultralights. One day to hit fly market,
hangars, and AeroShell again. If you're so inclined, take a half day to go
see seaplane base too. One day is just to repeat what we want to see again
and add in the Museum.
I have camped in Camp Scholler every year at OSH, now we have quite the
family compound on ROW 10 south of the West Gate. We have family from AZ,
OH, MI, and NY. Big 20x20 silver tarp tent with about 5 or 6 smaller tents
around it. Look us up!
Scott & Jenni Shook
RV-7A (Building)
N696JS (Reserved)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gbrasch
Sent: Monday, 03 March, 2008 12:18
Subject: RV7-List: Re: Oshkosh
Can anybody give Mike some positive advice? Mike, this will be my 25th
"Oshkosh" and I have never had a bad year. Sure, the weather might get bad
but that is just part of it. They will give you a map of the grounds when
you get there, go over it and pick out what you want to see, because you
won't be able to get it all in, even in a full week. Hope this helps.
Glenn
--------
Glenn Brasch
RV-9A Finishing #90623, O-360
Tucson, Arizona
Van's Aircraft Belt Buckles
http://home.earthlink.net/~gbrasch/
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=167434#167434
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| Subject: | RE: RV7-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 02/25/08 |
Kidding aside, my RV6 is flying with a dual alt, dual battery system for
which I've spent hours thinking through failure cases and am convinced is as
"fail safe" as the dual bus system in Z-14. But the key thing is that it
operates the way Mike describes!
When designing my system I definitly felt it was important for another pilot
operating the airplane to be able to do so safely. And for that matter,
Bob's recommendation to keep it simple and avoid the need for moving
switches when something fails really struck me as good advice.
The only "extra" switch I have is to turn on my aux battery/alternator. If
that switch is ignored the plane operates and flys just like a spam can
(electrically speaking). If that switch is thrown "on" at the same time the
primary master is turned on, then the aircraft is running "dual everything".
If something fails, as much stuff as can keeps working without additional
through from the poor confused pilot. :)
The short version is that I have a "conventional" primary electrical system.
Then I have a backup alt/battery on it's own bus. Only the primary
electrical system runs the starter, the electric flaps, the ships lighting.
The primary system also feeds the avionics bus (I know, Bob says you don't
need an avionics master, but I like the idea and it makes it easy to keep
stuff off the battery before starting). The avionics bus runs the
autopilot, the 2nd Nav/Com, the ICS. The avionics bus also feeds (via diode
and fuse) into the "e-bus". The aux battery and alternator also feed into
the "e-bus". The e-bus supports my EFIS, GPS, #1 Nav/Com and Transponder.
The EFIS is also dual supplied from the avionics bus as well, so it won't go
down even if the e-bus goes down.
Tough to desribe I guess. But the bottom line is a recommendation to design
for operational simplicity. Given thought to where you can remove or at
least normally ignore switches. Have fun! :)
Scott.
=== Oringinal Message ==
Time: 07:49:19 PM PST US
From: "Henry Nordsiek" <h1nord@sopris.net>
Subject: RV7-List: Ignition sequence of operation
I am building a RV-7A and have started to think about the electrical system.
I have purchased Bob Nuckolls AeroElectric Connection. My engine will be a
Superior XP-320 Plus with carburetor and the LSE Dual Plasma III CDI
ignition installed at the Superior factory.I want to install a all electric
panel using the Dynon FlightDEK-D180. Bob recommends his system found on
Drawing Z-14 which is a double battery double alternator split buss design.
Bob and LSE both recommend eliminating the standard "key switch" and
replacing with toggle switches.
When starting the airplane, what is the sequence of operation that should
take place?
1. Energize primary battery contactor.
2. Energize secondary battery contactor.
3. Energize dual system cross-over contactor which lets the starter
use both batteries for starting.
4. Turn primary ignition switch to ON.
5. Turn secondary ignition switch to ON.
6. Push start button
7. Turn primary alternator field switch to ON.
8. Turn secondary alternator field switch to ON.
9. De-energize the dual system cross-over contactor.
Does the preceding sequence make sense? Please advise!
Henry Nordsiek
________________________________ Message 2
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Time: 10:11:07 PM PST US
From: Mike Divan <n343fd@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RV7-List: Ignition sequence of operation
Hole-E-Cow!
I kind of like the old fashion way.
1. Pump the throttle a couple times
2.Advance the throttle a tad
3. Turn on battery
4. Hit the ignition
5. It starts.
:) Just kidding with ya a little
Mike Divan
N64GH - RV6,flying :)
SLOW 7 Builder :(
EAA - 577486
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