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1. 07:38 AM - Setting the correct Spacing (Gap) between VS Top Rib and Rudder (Terry Frazier)
2. 09:00 AM - Re: RV8-List: Settting the correct Spacing (Gap) between VS Top Rib and Rudder Top Rib (Brian Huffaker)
3. 09:36 AM - Re: Re: RV8-List: Settting the correct Spacing (Gap) between VS Top Rib and Rudder Top Rib (Joseph F. Giallo, II)
4. 02:21 PM - Re: For Sale - Skyforce Skymap IIIC - NEW - Latest Database (dwyerhenry@aol.com)
5. 02:24 PM - Re: For Sale - Skyforce Skymap IIIC - NEW - Latest Database (dwyerhenry@aol.com)
6. 06:00 PM - Re: RV9-List: Settting the correct Spacing (Gap) between VS Top Rib and Rudder Top Rib (Ralph Cloud)
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| Subject: | Setting the correct Spacing (Gap) between VS Top Rib and Rudder |
I had no problems with the gap just constructing the vert. stab and rudder
according to the plans. The vertical height of the gap is set by the
prepunched holes in the stab and rudder hinge /rod end mounts. I used the
final adjustment of the rod ends to ensure that the gap (rudder to elevator)
was even for and aft, and that the rod ends were exactly aligned AFTER the
vert. stab, was installed on the fuselage. BTW, I added the extra spacer
washer between the rudder mount and the fuselage to both the top and bottom
holes (left side). My 7A plans called for the spacer washer in the upper
hole only, but that resulted in very slight left/right misalignment of the
lowest rudder hinge bracket.
Terry Frazier
7A Panel and final wiring.
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Time: 09:27:54 PM PST US
From: Garey Wittich <gareywittich2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV7-List: Settting the correct Spacing (Gap) between VS Top Rib and
Rudder
Top Rib
Greetings:
The construction of my RV8A (RV7 and RV9 are the
same) the Rudders Top Rib swings OVER the top Rib of
the VS. There is suppose to be a "Gap" between the
two Ribs so that there is no interference (rubbing of
them together) as the Rudder is moved.
My question is - how do you set this Gap up ???
It seems to me that the Rod End Bearings on the Rudder
Spar need to be screwed into the Rudder Spar the "
Final" distance so that the Gap can be set up properly
BEFORE the Rudder Skin is finally riveted to the
Rudders Top Rib (R703) which sets this Gap. My
understanding the dimensions for screwing the Rod End
Bearings as shown on the Drawing 7 is only
"approximate" and needs to be fined tuned later = this
could change this Gap distance.
Or if one marks a center-line on the flange of the
Rudders Top Rib and aligns the pre-punched holes in
the Rudder Skin directly over the "center of this
line", does it Guarantee automatic clearance and a
constant Gap distance when the Rod End bearings are
set to their "Final" screwed-in distance ??????
The Orndorff Tapes show the Rod End bearings installed
in the Rudder Spar (no Rod End Bearing dimensions
given) and mounted to the VS and the Gap set by
bending Up the Rudders Top Rib (R703) to parallel the
VS Top Rib. Maybe I am missing something. So what
worked for you - set the Rod End Bearings "approx" or
align the pre-punched holes in the Rudder Skin
directly over the marked center-line on the Rudders
Top Rib flange and THEN rivet the Rudder Skin ????
Once the Rudder Skin is riveted to the Rudders Top
Rib, the Rudders Top Rib is fixed and can NOT be
readjusted to get the "correct Gap" later.
Appreciate your help, Garey Wittich
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| Subject: | Re: RV8-List: Settting the correct Spacing (Gap) between VS |
Top Rib and Rudder Top Rib
On Fri, 9 May 2008, Garey Wittich wrote:
> --> RV8-List message posted by: Garey Wittich <gareywittich2000@yahoo.com>
>
> Greetings:
>
> The construction of my RV8A (RV7 and RV9 are the
> same) the Rudders Top Rib swings OVER the top Rib of
> the VS. There is suppose to be a "Gap" between the
> two Ribs so that there is no interference (rubbing of
> them together) as the Rudder is moved.
>
> My question is - how do you set this Gap up ???
On mine, I had to file the top of the VS down a bit to get the needed
gap. Given the pre-punched holes, there isn't a lot you can play with,
other than changing how far the rod ends are screwed in, move the top ones
a bit further out than the bottom (keeping them in line of course).
Brian Huffaker, DSWL (bifft@xmission.com)
RV-8A 80091 riviting fuse.
1/4 Starduster II N23UT flying
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| Subject: | Re: RV8-List: Settting the correct Spacing (Gap) between |
VS Top Rib and Rudder Top Rib
Something else to bear in mind is the thickness of both the VS and the
rudder at that junction. On many (if not all) 7's, there is a lot of
buildup required to make them look right. Don't try for a narrow gap
when setting the distance of the rudder from the VS using the rod end
bearings. You'll need to add some glass cloth and filler around the
front of the rudder and at the back of the fiberglass tip of the VS. I'd
shoot for about a 1/8" gap or so now and this will decrease when the
glass/filler work is done.
Regards,
Joe
N813MJ, airworthiness certificate issued, first flight hopefully next week
Brian Huffaker wrote:
>
>On Fri, 9 May 2008, Garey Wittich wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> RV8-List message posted by: Garey Wittich <gareywittich2000@yahoo.com>
>>
>>Greetings:
>>
>>The construction of my RV8A (RV7 and RV9 are the
>>same) the Rudders Top Rib swings OVER the top Rib of
>>the VS. There is suppose to be a "Gap" between the
>>two Ribs so that there is no interference (rubbing of
>>them together) as the Rudder is moved.
>>
>>My question is - how do you set this Gap up ???
>>
>>
>
>
> On mine, I had to file the top of the VS down a bit to get the needed
>gap. Given the pre-punched holes, there isn't a lot you can play with,
>other than changing how far the rod ends are screwed in, move the top ones
>a bit further out than the bottom (keeping them in line of course).
>
>
> Brian Huffaker, DSWL (bifft@xmission.com)
> RV-8A 80091 riviting fuse.
> 1/4 Starduster II N23UT flying
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: For Sale - Skyforce Skymap IIIC - NEW - Latest Database |
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-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
To:rv7-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV7-List: For Sale - Skyforce Skymap IIIC - NEW - Latest Database
Dear Listers,
I am selling my new-in-box Skyforce Skymap IIIC full color GPS moving map with
Topo. The database and firmware were just upgraded 05/2008. Includes a Panel
Mounting bracket, GPS Antenna, cigarette lighter adapter, carrying case, and all
manuals. Brand new, never used. No scratches. The pictures below are of the
actual unit. The LCD color display on the IIIC is extremely nice and very bright.
Gives altitude readout. RS232 output.
I have over $2500 invested in this complete system. I will sell it for $2200 plus
shipping to anywhere in the world. I can accept Visa/MC. First come, first
served.
Please email me off list at dralle@matronics.com if you are interested.
Matt Dralle
List Admin / RV-4 Builder
1ea - Skyforce Skymap IIIC w/ GPS and Americas Database. . .$2367.00 . .$2367.00
1ea - Panel Mount. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .$98.00 . . .$98.00
1ea - Firmware and Database Update 5/8/2008. . . . . . . . . .$50.00 . . .$50.00
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| Subject: | Re: For Sale - Skyforce Skymap IIIC - NEW - Latest Database |
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-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
To:rv7-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV7-List: For Sale - Skyforce Skymap IIIC - NEW - Latest Database
Dear Listers,
I am selling my new-in-box Skyforce Skymap IIIC full color GPS moving map with
Topo. The database and firmware were just upgraded 05/2008. Includes a Panel
Mounting bracket, GPS Antenna, cigarette lighter adapter, carrying case, and all
manuals. Brand new, never used. No scratches. The pictures below are of the
actual unit. The LCD color display on the IIIC is extremely nice and very bright.
Gives altitude readout. RS232 output.
I have over $2500 invested in this complete system. I will sell it for $2200 plus
shipping to anywhere in the world. I can accept Visa/MC. First come, first
served.
Please email me off list at dralle@matronics.com if you are interested.
Matt Dralle
List Admin / RV-4 Builder
1ea - Skyforce Skymap IIIC w/ GPS and Americas Database. . .$2367.00 . .$2367.00
1ea - Panel Mount. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .$98.00 . . .$98.00
1ea - Firmware and Database Update 5/8/2008. . . . . . . . . .$50.00 . . .$50.00
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $2515.00
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| Subject: | RE: RV9-List: Settting the correct Spacing (Gap) between VS |
Top Rib and Rudder Top Rib
>
> My question is - how do you set this Gap up ???
>
You cannot adjust the top gap very much due to pre-punch holes which
pretty must sets it for you.
> It seems to me that the Rod End Bearings on the Rudder
> Spar need to be screwed into the Rudder Spar the "
The distance indicated for the rod ends will set the gap between the
spar of the VS and the rudder, too little and the rudder will hit the VS
skin at full deflection. Too much and it will put too much load on the
VS spar and drag from too big of a gap.
The final adjustment of the rod ends it to make sure they are in
alignment with the hinge points. If they are not aligned properly you
will have flexing of the spar, friction on the hinge line and other
related issues.
Ralph
Livermore,
Wings, fuse in box
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