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1. 04:00 AM - Re: Superior forward facing sump on an RV-7A (Mark Taylor)
2. 04:00 AM - Re: Superior forward facing sump on an RV-7A (Andrew Phillips)
3. 05:08 AM - Re: Superior forward facing sump on an RV-7A (jkrowe.1@netzero.net)
4. 05:10 AM - Re: Superior forward facing sump on an RV-7A (jkrowe.1@netzero.net)
5. 05:13 AM - Re: Superior forward facing sump on an RV-7A (Duncan Engh)
6. 05:35 AM - Re: Superior forward facing sump on an RV-7A (Duncan Engh)
7. 05:51 AM - Re: Superior forward facing sump on an RV-7A (Andrew Phillips)
8. 05:52 AM - Re: Superior forward facing sump on an RV-7A (Andrew Phillips)
9. 02:08 PM - Re: Superior forward facing sump on an RV-7A (Trevor)
10. 02:43 PM - Re: Superior forward facing sump on an RV-7A (Greg Blakey)
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| Subject: | Superior forward facing sump on an RV-7A |
Jason,
I have the forward facing sump (the Ryton one) and recently received the al
uminium one to replace it. Looks directly interchangeable (I hope!)
Anyway, I had a custom exhaust made by Aircraft Exhaust Inc. They had a sum
p, so knew where to put the pipes. I think mine was the first one they did,
as I sent it back once for some extra mods. It's not a crossover though, i
t's a 4 into 1.
As for bracketry, you can check out the firewall forward pages on my websit
e www.4sierratango.com and see what I did. For cable lengths, mine has a ce
ntre console mounted throttle quadrant so I'm a fair bit longer than where
you'd be if you've used Van's standard locations. I just used some electric
al cable to figure out the length.
Hope this helps a bit at least. There are as many configuratins out there a
s there are builders. Hopefully a little bit gleaned from everyone will hel
p out your particular set up in some way.
Mark
www.4sierratango.com
Grand Champion - Kit, Sun n Fun 2008
From: jkrowe.1@netzero.net
Subject: RV7-List: Superior forward facing sump on an RV-7A
I recently mounted my engine on my RV-7A and found that I had a couple of p
roblems. I have the forward facing Superior sump, the new non-Ryton one, a
nd found that it interfered with my drain plug and came very close to the n
umber one intake lead/runner. After talking to Vettermans, they said that
the M1B exhaust that Vans had sent me would not work. The new forward faci
ng sump has the same basic architecture as the Ryton sump and from what I u
nderstand, Vans was somewhat confused about this and sent the MIB. So I am
exhanging the MIB exhaust with the Superior exhaust from Van's to correct
the problem. =0A
I was wanting to know if anyone out there has a Superior forward facing sum
p with a Vettermans crossover exhaust on a 7A installed that would be willi
ng to send a couple of pictures of their installation? Particularly the ar
ea around the drain plug, the area between the number one intake and exhaus
t leads/runners, and then how the brackets for the throttle and mixture wer
e mounted. Also, what length cables were used for the throttle and mixture
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| Subject: | Re: Superior forward facing sump on an RV-7A |
Jason, I had the same problem but the new exhaust fixed it. I have a
quick drain and it goes out a hole on the pilots side of the sump not
out the bottom. The cables that Van's sold were too short for me and
so I am getting ACS to make longer ones. This will depend on what fuel
injection system you are using. I have the Airflow Performance unit. I
made my own throttle/mix bracket. I will try to remember to take a pic
the next time I am at the airport. If you don't get one by the end of
the weekend send me a reminder.
Andrew Phillips
On 26-Jun-08, at 5:12 PM, jkrowe.1@netzero.net wrote:
> I recently mounted my engine on my RV-7A and found that I had a
> couple of problems. I have the forward facing Superior sump, the
> new non-Ryton one, and found that it interfered with my drain plug
> and came very close to the number one intake lead/runner. After
> talking to Vettermans, they said that the M1B exhaust that Vans had
> sent me would not work. The new forward facing sump has the same
> basic architecture as the Ryton sump and from what I understand,
> Vans was somewhat confused about this and sent the MIB. So I am
> exhanging the MIB exhaust with the Superior exhaust from Van's to
> correct the problem.
>
> I was wanting to know if anyone out there has a Superior forward
> facing sump with a Vettermans crossover exhaust on a 7A installed
> that would be willing to send a couple of pictures of their
> installation? Particularly the area around the drain plug, the area
> between the number one intake and exhaust leads/runners, and then
> how the brackets for the throttle and mixture were mounted. Also,
> what length cables were used for the throttle and mixture? I would
> appreciate any help and advice.
>
> Jason
>
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| Subject: | Superior forward facing sump on an RV-7A |
Thanks Mark, I'll check out your site.
Appreciate the help,
Jason
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| Subject: | Re: Superior forward facing sump on an RV-7A |
Andrew,
Thanks for the help. I'm waiting on the exhaust to come in so it'll be
next week before I get back into working on the cabling. I thought I'd
finish my baffling while I'm waiting on the exhaust. How much did it co
st to get the custom length cables made and what kind of lead time was t
here?
Thanks,
Jason
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| Subject: | Re: Superior forward facing sump on an RV-7A |
Please forward the address for ACS
Thank you
Duncan Engh
--- On Fri, 6/27/08, Andrew Phillips <andrew.phillips@sympatico.ca> wrote:
From: Andrew Phillips <andrew.phillips@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: RV7-List: Superior forward facing sump on an RV-7A
Jason, I had the same problem but the new exhaust fixed it. I have a quick
drain and it goes out a hole on the pilots -side of the sump not out the
bottom. The cables that Van's sold were too short for me and so I am gettin
g ACS to make longer ones. This will depend on what fuel injection system y
ou are using. I have the Airflow Performance unit. I made my own throttle/m
ix bracket. I will try to remember to take a pic the next time I am at the
airport. If you don't get one by the end of the weekend send me a reminder.
Andrew Phillips
On 26-Jun-08, at 5:12 PM, jkrowe.1@netzero.net wrote:
I recently mounted my engine on my RV-7A and found that I had a couple of p
roblems.- I have the forward facing Superior sump, the new non-Ryton one,
and found that it interfered with my drain plug and came very close to the
number one intake lead/runner.- After talking to Vettermans, they said t
hat the M1B-exhaust that Vans had sent me-would not work.- The new fo
rward facing sump has the same basic architecture as the Ryton sump and fro
m what I understand, Vans was somewhat confused about this and sent the MIB
.- So I am exhanging the MIB exhaust with the Superior exhaust from Van's
to correct the problem.-
I was wanting to know if anyone out there has a Superior forward facing sum
p with a Vettermans crossover exhaust on a 7A installed that would be willi
ng to send a couple of pictures of their installation?- Particularly the
area around the drain plug, the area between the number one intake and exha
ust leads/runners, and then how the brackets for the throttle and mixture w
ere mounted.- Also, what length cables were used for the throttle and mix
ture?- I would appreciate any help and advice.
Jason
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| Subject: | Superior forward facing sump on an RV-7A |
Jason
I am looking for the site for longer cables, can you help
Thanks
Duncan
--- On Fri, 6/27/08, jkrowe.1@netzero.net <jkrowe.1@netzero.net> wrote:
From: jkrowe.1@netzero.net <jkrowe.1@netzero.net>
Subject: RE: RV7-List: Superior forward facing sump on an RV-7A
Thanks Mark,- I'll check out your site.-
Appreciate the help,
Jason
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| Subject: | Re: Superior forward facing sump on an RV-7A |
Cables were just under $90 each and 3-4 weeks.
On 27-Jun-08, at 8:03 AM, jkrowe.1@netzero.net wrote:
> Andrew,
> Thanks for the help. I'm waiting on the exhaust to come in so it'll
> be next week before I get back into working on the cabling. I
> thought I'd finish my baffling while I'm waiting on the exhaust.
> How much did it cost to get the custom length cables made and what
> kind of lead time was there?
>
> Thanks,
> Jason
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Superior forward facing sump on an RV-7A |
www.aircraftspruce.com
On 27-Jun-08, at 8:08 AM, Duncan Engh wrote:
> Please forward the address for ACS
>
> Thank you
>
> Duncan Engh
>
> --- On Fri, 6/27/08, Andrew Phillips <andrew.phillips@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> From: Andrew Phillips <andrew.phillips@sympatico.ca>
> Subject: Re: RV7-List: Superior forward facing sump on an RV-7A
> To: rv7-list@matronics.com
> Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 6:56 AM
>
> Jason, I had the same problem but the new exhaust fixed it. I have a
> quick drain and it goes out a hole on the pilots side of the sump
> not out the bottom. The cables that Van's sold were too short for me
> and so I am getting ACS to make longer ones. This will depend on
> what fuel injection system you are using. I have the Airflow
> Performance unit. I made my own throttle/mix bracket. I will try to
> remember to take a pic the next time I am at the airport. If you
> don't get one by the end of the weekend send me a reminder.
>
> Andrew Phillips
>
> On 26-Jun-08, at 5:12 PM, jkrowe.1@netzero.net wrote:
>
>> I recently mounted my engine on my RV-7A and found that I had a
>> couple of problems. I have the forward facing Superior sump, the
>> new non-Ryton one, and found that it interfered with my drain plug
>> and came very close to the number one intake lead/runner. After
>> talking to Vettermans, they said that the M1B exhaust that Vans had
>> sent me would not work. The new forward facing sump has the same
>> basic architecture as the Ryton sump and from what I understand,
>> Vans was somewhat confused about this and sent the MIB. So I am
>> exhanging the MIB exhaust with the Superior exhaust from Van's to
>> correct the problem.
>>
>> I was wanting to know if anyone out there has a Superior forward
>> facing sump with a Vettermans crossover exhaust on a 7A installed
>> that would be willing to send a couple of pictures of their
>> installation? Particularly the area around the drain plug, the
>> area between the number one intake and exhaust leads/runners, and
>> then how the brackets for the throttle and mixture were mounted.
>> Also, what length cables were used for the throttle and mixture? I
>> would appreciate any help and advice.
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> N338JR (Reserved)
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Superior forward facing sump on an RV-7A |
I had the same problem with Van's and am sitting with a MIB exhaust
which is of no use. I see that Van's now asks you to specify "Superior
FF induction" when ordering so they obviously know about the problem
now. The throttle brackets do not fit the Ryton sump. It is not too
difficult to make one . Used some .125 stock, drilled it for the
threaded holes on the bottom of the sump - one needs to angle the
bracket inwards, backwards and slightly down to clear everything, then
give it a 90 deg up bend and drill a hole to take the cable. Mine is on
a -7.
The mixture cable and brackets supplied work well. My documentation is
at the hangar so am not sure of the measurements but can find it out for
you if you can wait till next week. The throttle was 53" or 54" if
memory serves me right.
Will send you some photos off the web
Trevor
----- Original Message -----
From: jkrowe.1@netzero.net
To: rv7-list@matronics.com ; engine-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:12 PM
Subject: RV7-List: Superior forward facing sump on an RV-7A
I recently mounted my engine on my RV-7A and found that I had a couple
of problems. I have the forward facing Superior sump, the new non-Ryton
one, and found that it interfered with my drain plug and came very close
to the number one intake lead/runner. After talking to Vettermans, they
said that the M1B exhaust that Vans had sent me would not work. The new
forward facing sump has the same basic architecture as the Ryton sump
and from what I understand, Vans was somewhat confused about this and
sent the MIB. So I am exhanging the MIB exhaust with the Superior
exhaust from Van's to correct the problem.
I was wanting to know if anyone out there has a Superior forward
facing sump with a Vettermans crossover exhaust on a 7A installed that
would be willing to send a couple of pictures of their installation?
Particularly the area around the drain plug, the area between the number
one intake and exhaust leads/runners, and then how the brackets for the
throttle and mixture were mounted. Also, what length cables were used
for the throttle and mixture? I would appreciate any help and advice.
Jason
N338JR (Reserved)
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| Subject: | Re: Superior forward facing sump on an RV-7A |
Gents,
One thing you might like to consider rather than going to the expense of
a whole new cable are these threaded connectors from Aircraft Spruce.
Dan Checkaway used one and I have purchased for my M1B setup to an
Aerosance Throttle Body.
Here is the link if anyone is interested and by just choosing the
additional length you require, you can thread this to the end of your
existing cable.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/search/search.php?query=10376&searchsubmi
t=Search&search=1
Cheers from Down Under!
Greg(RV-7........wiring)
----- Original Message -----
From: Duncan Engh
To: rv7-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: RV7-List: Superior forward facing sump on an RV-7A
Please forward the address for ACS
Thank you
Duncan Engh
--- On Fri, 6/27/08, Andrew Phillips
<andrew.phillips@sympatico.ca> wrote:
From: Andrew Phillips <andrew.phillips@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: RV7-List: Superior forward facing sump on an
RV-7A
To: rv7-list@matronics.com
Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 6:56 AM
Jason, I had the same problem but the new exhaust fixed it. I
have a quick drain and it goes out a hole on the pilots side of the
sump not out the bottom. The cables that Van's sold were too short for
me and so I am getting ACS to make longer ones. This will depend on what
fuel injection system you are using. I have the Airflow Performance
unit. I made my own throttle/mix bracket. I will try to remember to take
a pic the next time I am at the airport. If you don't get one by the end
of the weekend send me a reminder.
Andrew Phillips
On 26-Jun-08, at 5:12 PM, jkrowe.1@netzero.net wrote:
I recently mounted my engine on my RV-7A and found that I
had a couple of problems. I have the forward facing Superior sump, the
new non-Ryton one, and found that it interfered with my drain plug and
came very close to the number one intake lead/runner. After talking to
Vettermans, they said that the M1B exhaust that Vans had sent me would
not work. The new forward facing sump has the same basic architecture
as the Ryton sump and from what I understand, Vans was somewhat confused
about this and sent the MIB. So I am exhanging the MIB exhaust with the
Superior exhaust from Van's to correct the problem.
I was wanting to know if anyone out there has a Superior
forward facing sump with a Vettermans crossover exhaust on a 7A
installed that would be willing to send a couple of pictures of their
installation? Particularly the area around the drain plug, the area
between the number one intake and exhaust leads/runners, and then how
the brackets for the throttle and mixture were mounted. Also, what
length cables were used for the throttle and mixture? I would
appreciate any help and advice.
Jason
N338JR (Reserved)
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