---------------------------------------------------------- RV7-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 06/04/09: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:25 AM - Re: Tilt vs Slider (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9o_Celis?=) 2. 05:22 AM - Re: Rod End Bearing Jam Nut - TORQUE (Larry Helming) 3. 06:54 AM - -List: Rod End Bearing Jam Nut - TORQUE (Terry Frazier) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:25:30 AM PST US From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9o_Celis?= Subject: Re: RV7-List: Tilt vs Slider Happened to us with our RV-7A... Cracked tail fairing. Tho. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Franz Fux" Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 3:24 AM Subject: Re: RV7-List: Tilt vs Slider > > Yes it does, happened to me during final inspection, me standing on the > wing > and the inspector trying to climb up, scratched the tail cone > Franz > > > On 03/06/09 3:11 PM, "Rob Prior" wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 14:17:16 -0700 (PDT) steve wrote >>> If you still fly with a training wheel on the nose, then you might as >>> well >>> build the tip-up. >> >> Personally, that's the configuration that I always thought didn't look >> right. >> Slider on both models looks good, and the tip-up canopy on the tailwheel >> models looks good, but tip-up on the nosewheel models seems really >> strange. >> >> Keep in mind that the -A models tend to want to tip on their tails if you >> have >> too much weight aft during entry/egress, most notably if two people step >> up on >> the steps at the same time. With a tip-up canopy, you'll tend to lean >> back >> getting in to avoid the canopy, which may exacerbate the problem. The >> slider >> forces you to be further forward on the wing, keeping you where you won't >> tip. >> >> Mind you, this is just my impression of the configuration... I don't know >> if >> two people getting into a tip-up nosewheel version would really cause the >> nosewheel to raise. It just seems like you're asking for trouble. >> >> -Rob >> >> >> However...--- On Wed, 6/3/09, Steven Eberhart >>> wrote: >>> From: Steven Eberhart Subject: Re: RV7-List: Tilt vs >>> SliderTo: rv7-list@matronics.comDate: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 9:00 AM >>> Heyden Thomas wrote: >>> >>> >>> #yiv1231070661 .hmmessage P >>> { >>> margin:0px;padding:0px;} >>> #yiv1231070661 { >>> font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} >>> >>> Could someone please revisit the issues of selecting a tilt vs sliding >>> canopy >>> on the RV-7?Just a moment ............ back now from revisiting the >>> issue; >>> yup, still a personal preference item with no chance of changing >>> anyone's >>> opinion. IMHO the question is: do you want to give up comfort while >>> taxiing >>> on hot days for a somewhat less obstructed view out of the canopy? >>> Steve >>> EberhartRV-7A slider, Airworthiness Inspection scheduled for next >>> weekhttp://www.newtech.com/n14se/n14se.jpg >>> >>> et=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV7-List >>> =nofollow>http://forums.matronics.com >>> blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> --- >> Rob Prior >> rv7 at b4 dot ca >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 18:00:00 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:22:36 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV7-List: Rod End Bearing Jam Nut - TORQUE From: Larry Helming Fjor experimental aircraft, you might just Put a drop of locktite on it. Indiana Larry On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Garey Wittich wrote: > For you Experts: > Installed the Rod End Bearings in the Rudder and Elevators today. My local > A&P said to tighten the Jam Nut by "Hand Tightening" the Jam Nut as far as > it will go, then turn the nut between 1/4 and 1/2 turn more. > > I "hand tightened" the Jam Nut (as the A&P said), but could not get it to > tighten more than an additional 1/8 turn. Because the Jam Nut is recessed, > it is impossible to get a wrench squarely on it = any further turning of the > Nut stars to round the corners of the Nut. Is this 1/8 turn adequate for > the Jam Nut tightness, if not how do you turn the Nut (since it is recessed) > ?? > > What Torque Value is required for the Jam Nut, assuming a Torque Wrench can > get into the recessed area - do not see how this can be done. > > ANOTHER QUESTION - > Have a "click type" torque wrench that starts at 20 in-lbs. From previous > posts, the FIRST 1/6 and the LAST 1/6 of the Wrench Scale are inaccurate. > So how do you measure 'LOW VALUES" like for AN3 bolts that require 20 - 25 > in/lbs plus Friction Torque of approx 5 in/lbs = 25 to 30 in/lbs TOTAL > TORQUE ??? > > Appreciate your help, > > Garey Wittich Santa Monica, CA > > * > > * > > -- In God I Trust. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:54:58 AM PST US From: "Terry Frazier" Subject: RV7-List: -List: Rod End Bearing Jam Nut - TORQUE On the lock nuts, I just tightened them as well as I could. Impossible to get a torque wrench in there. Be sure to use torque seal or nail polish for future inspection purposes. On calibrating click type torque wrenches. What I do before every critical torque is to "calibrate" my click type wrench against a beam type wrench. Install an appropriate socket for a square nut on either wrench and observe where the click type wrench clicks on the beam type wrench. Then you can use the click type wrench for multiple torques with confidence. I understand this procedure (or one like it) was mandatory in the military when click type wrenches first became available... (snip) Time: 08:31:54 PM PST US From: Garey Wittich Subject: RV7-List: Rod End Bearing Jam Nut - TORQUE For you Experts: Installed the Rod End Bearings in the Rudder and Elevators today. -My loc al A&P said to tighten the Jam Nut by "Hand Tightening" the Jam Nut as far as it will go, then turn the nut between 1/4 and 1/2 turn more. 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