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1. 07:19 PM - RV Transition Training w/ Mike Seager - Day 1 - Getting There... (Matt Dralle)
2. 07:27 PM - RV Transition Training w/ Mike Seager - Day 2 - Sessions 1 & 2... (Matt Dralle)
3. 07:35 PM - RV Transition Training w/ Mike Seager - Day 3 - Session 3... (Matt Dralle)
4. 08:33 PM - RV Transition Training w/ Mike Seager - Day 3 - Session 4... (Matt Dralle)
5. 11:13 PM - Official RV7-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle)
6. 11:20 PM - Official RV7-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | RV Transition Training w/ Mike Seager - Day 1 - Getting There... |
The trip to Vernonia Oregon was pleasantly uneventful and rather relaxing, actually.
The Flight on Horizon Air was smooth and the plane left Oakland Airport
right on time and even arrived at Portland Airport 10 minutes early. I was also
pleasantly surprised that the Enterprise rental car establishment at the airport
had a brand new 2010 Chevy Camero's in the fleet. I've been wanting to
drive one since they came out and quickly exchanged my "luxury car" reservation
for the sweet, Silver number seen in the pictures. Its a very nice car. Plenty
of power, handles reasonably well although it tends to over-steer in the
corners, rides well, and has a "very nice" factory sound system. The system
has XM radio support, but Enterprise doesn't maintain a subscription to the service
which is a big-old fat bummer in my opinion. FM radio is a jungle; ack.
Anyway, back to the trip... It was around 2pm by the the time I got on the road,
so my belly was telling me it was time for a refill. I noticed this nice looking
place along the highway called Rose's Restaurant and Bakery and it sounded
like what I was in the mood for, and it turned out my hunch was right. I
ordered a big 'ol greasy BBQ cheese burger that was as big as a mountain and very
tasty. They have some awesome looking deserts there too, but I resisted.
I don't know why I resisted, mind you... Just as I was leaving, the sun turned
to dark gray clouds and then it just started to hail like crazy! It was pretty
cool.
It was about an hour and a half drive from the Portland Airport out to Vernonia.
Along the way, I snapped a couple of pictures of a sweet glider airport by
the highway. The green fields with the airplanes in the background was quite
a sight. I thought wistfully of the RV-8 trapped in the hangar back at home...
Once you turn off the main highway heading towards Vernonia proper, the scenery
is quite spectacular. The filtered sun through the various clouds and patches
of rain made the trip just that much more enjoyable. Well, that and the purr
of the Camero's V8. I'm just saying...
I rolled into Vernonia and the Garmin GPS that came with the car took me right
up to the front door of the Rockcreek Bed & Breakfast. What a lovely place!
The pictures of the interior are the living quarters for the guest. There's just
the one bedroom, so I pretty much had the run of the areas shown. The owners
live in the back half of the house, but the two areas are divided and so the
guest's front half is very private.
Patricia Davis, the curator of the Rockcreek B&B was very nice and made sure everything
was just right. She promised a big breakfast in the morning with all
of my favorite things, so I'm looking forward to that!! :-)
If you're coming to Vernonia for your transition training with Mike Seager, you
own it to yourself to stay here at the Rock Creek B&B. You won't be sorry.
The accommodations are outstanding and the price is very reasonable. Here is
their web site:
http://www.rockcreekbb.com/
After I got settled in, I drove out to the Vernonia airport and looked around until
I found Mike's hanger. I knocked on the door and found him there still and
we had a nice conversation and he showed me his Model T restoration project.
Very cool! I'll have to get some pictures of it tomorrow.
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: Test Flight
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| Subject: | RV Transition Training w/ Mike Seager - Day 2 - Sessions 1 & |
2...
As luck would have it, Thursday morning it was raining in Vernonia Oregon.
Go figure. After a wonderful breakfast at the Rock Creek B&B, I headed out
to the Vernonia airport to meet with Mike Seager at 10am for my first RV
transition training lesson. We spent the first hour in the office for some
"chalk-talk" all about RVs. Mike went over RV speeds, attitudes (the
airplane's, not the pilot's, btw), and other things related to flying an RV
safely. It was a very good primer on the RV.
By now, it was only raining "a little bit", so we headed out to N477RV, an
RV-7, and hopped in. We took off to the West, with a fairly stiff wind. I
nice left hand turn and we headed out toward Scappoose. Mike took me
though some aircraft handling such as turns and climbs and descents and got
me used to the flight controls on the RV. As is typical with most new RV
pilots, I was over-controlling some. The air was *really* bumpy and I was
really working hard to keep the plane level with all the turbulence. Then
Mike showed me how to just let the plane fly itself though those bumps by
relaxing my grip and not constantly over-correcting. Wow! That's was a
lot easier! We headed over to the Scappoose airport and set up to shoot
some landings. There was a "nice", almost 90 degree cross wind there to go
with all of the turbulence, so it was quite a work out both as a pilot and
on my stomach. I didn't barf, but I sure wanted to... After 6 stop and go
landings at Scappoose, we headed back to the Vernonia airport.
Mike has been restoring a 1923 Model T Ford and he decided that he was going
to take it home for lunch that day. What a sweet car! Friday afternoon he
even took me for a ride! Considering they started making Model T's around
1907, it rode surprising well. With the fully enclosed cabin and heater,
it must have seemed like a space-ship compared to the horse and buggy that
most were still using at the time. The little car has an amazing amount of
power. There are a myriad of levers and pedals that must be negotiated to
drive the thing. Most peculiar is that fact that the throttle is not a
pedal, but rather a lever on the steering column that kind of looks like a
turn signal.
Mike's also been into Radio Control model airplanes and has a number of them
hanging from the ceiling in his hanger. Some of them were simply massive
and frankly looked like you could put the family cat or dog on one and take
them for a ride of a life time.
In the afternoon, I headed back out the Vernonia airport at 3PM for my
second lesson. The weather was better, but the report for Scappoose was
for even more wind than in the morning. So, we headed out to the
McMinville airport South of Vernonia about 15 minutes by RV.
http://www.macairclub.com/Welcome.html McMinville is where the Spruce
Goose is now stored and there is a large aircraft museum there.
The wind was fairly calm at McMinville and so we did about 12 stop and go
landings and then headed back the Vernonia airport. BTW, the Vernonia
airport has a large hill on the East end of the field and so you have to
sort of fly a dog leg around the hill and then straighten out right at the
last minute to land on the grass strip. By the end of Friday, I had it
down! Mike said, if you can land at Vernonia, you can land anywhere! :-)
After the second lesson on Thursday, I headed down to Hillsboro to meet some
long time RV-buddies at the Rock Creek Tavern. Don Wentz and Jerry
Springer were there and I met a new RV-buddy named Ryan along with his wife
and daughter. The Rock Creek Tavern is quite a place with lots of
atmosphere and even a live band on a Thursday night. The giant BBQ cheese
burger was nothing short of awesome.
By the time I got home, I was bushed. The giant, comfortable bed at the
Rock Creek B&B felt so good. I didn't wake up until 8 the next morning!
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Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: Test Flight
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| Subject: | RV Transition Training w/ Mike Seager - Day 3 - Session 3... |
Friday morning I headed back out to the Vernonia airport for lesson number 3.
Mike asked me if I'd like to fly the RV-6A this time since it has a constant speed
prop similar to what my RV-8 has. The RV-7 we'd flown the day before has
a fixed pitch prop. Some constant-speed time sounded like a great idea, so we
piled in and took off. I'm really glad that I got some time in the tricycle
gear version of the RV as well. I would seem that it would be just like the
tail wheel version, but easier. In reality, however, landing and taking off are
different propositions and Mike took me though the steps. I'm also glad that
I got the training with the constant-speed prop. The angle of decent on final
approach is significantly greater with the CS prop and its somewhat disconcerting
to be pointing the airplane's nose that far down on final. Its definitely
not a flat approach ala a Cessna 172 or even like the Citibrias I've been
flying.
We flew out towards Scappoose and did some slow flight and climbing turns along
with some power off and power on stalls. I was amazed at how far up you have
to point the nose on the RV to get it to stall with full power. Way up. I mean
WAY up. The stalls were gentle and predictable, but that second stall if
you don't get the nose pushed down far enough was a little weird. Other than
that, the stall handling and recovery were pretty text-book.
We headed over to Scappoose and shot about 8 stop and go landings. Again, kind
of a stiff cross wind, but there wasn't too much turbulence so that was good.
After that, we headed back to Vernonia and I made a pretty good landing on the
grass strip!
I didn't get any pictures of the RV-6A we flew today, but attached are some additional
pictures of the RV-7 I was flying.
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Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: Test Flight
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| Subject: | RV Transition Training w/ Mike Seager - Day 3 - Session 4... |
By the time the afternoon session on Friday rolled around, the weather was looking
pretty good. Still cloudy, but clouds were fairly high - around 3500ft -
and the wind wasn't blowing too bad. We got back in the RV-7 and took off and
headed West toward the Astoria airport out on the coast. We shot a number of
stop and go landings here and then headed out to the Oregon Coastline proper
at about 800 feet. I got some great pictures from plane as we were flying along.
It was amazingly beautiful and I commented to Mike that there are very few
people that have had the opportunity to experience the beauty of the coastline
from that perspective. Spectacular.
We shot a full stop landing at the Seaside Airport (56S) and then headed down the
coast a bit further to the Nehalem Bay State Airport (3S7) and shot a landing
there as well. From there we headed back to Vernonia where I managed to squeak
out yet another pretty good landing!
All toll across the 2 days and 4 sessions, I flew 6.0 hours with Mike and made
34 takeoffs and landings. I have to say that I feel much more confident now in
the RV. I absolutely cannot recommend this experience highly enough to anyone
who is getting ready to fly an RV for the first or near the first time. Whether
its for an insurance requirement or not, you cannot afford to not take the
time to learn the specifics of flying an RV aircraft. Particularly if you
only have Cessna or Piper time, but even if you have a fair amount of tail-dragger
time in aircraft such as the Citibria like I did. The training is invaluable
and frankly a must.
I also cannot speak highly enough of Mike Seager. What a pleasure it was flying
with him these last two days. His years of experience really shows and his
calm, yet firm manner was perfect for the task at hand. If you are about ready
to fly your RV, give Mike a call and schedule some time to get checked out.
You won't be sorry you did. I told Mike as I was handing him the check for his
effort, "You know Mike, this was the best money I've spent on my RV-8 project",
and I truly meant that.
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Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: Test Flight
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| Subject: | Official RV7-List Usage Guidelines |
Dear Listers,
Please read over the RV7-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
RV7-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/RV7-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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RV7-List Usage Guidelines
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the RV7-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the RV7-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
RV7-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the RV7-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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