RV7-List Digest Archive

Thu 10/06/11


Total Messages Posted: 5



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:48 PM - Re: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A (Herb Feldman)
     2. 12:57 PM - Re: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A (Francis Herr)
     3. 01:13 PM - Re: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A (Watson, Stephen H (313A))
     4. 03:15 PM - Re: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A (Herb Feldman)
     5. 07:03 PM - Re: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A (Dan Reeves)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:48:00 PM PST US
    From: Herb Feldman <hfaz@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A
    Yes the bolt head is 1/4" from the main spar. I tried tapping it in further with a rivet gun, but no luck.=C2- I am wondering=C2-while the threade d part of the bolt goes through the hole in the steel plate of the gear att achment, can the shank, which is a little greater in diameter than the thre ads, be to big to go through the hole?=C2- As I said, the bolt on the oth er wing worked OK.=C2-=C2-=C2-I'll keep trying.=0AHerb=0A=0AFrom: "bc ollinsrv7a@comcast.net" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net>=0ATo: rv7-list@matronics .com=0ASent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 3:58 PM=0ASubject: Re: RV7-List: In stalling wing bolts on RV-7A=0A=0A=0AAre you saying it's the bolt head that 's 1/4" from the main spar? I believe I got a flat screwdriver or some othe r object -- maybe a bucking bar, I forget -- and tapped it with a rubber ma llet or a rivet gun set on very low pressure.=0A=0AConnected by DROID on Ve rizon Wireless=0A=0A-----Original message-----=0A=0AFrom: Herb Feldman <az9 44@lafn.org>=0A>To: rv7-list@matronics.com=0A>Sent: Wed, Oct 5, 2011 22:32: 01 GMT+00:00=0A>Subject: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A=0A>=0A> =0A>I am having a problem trying to seat the lower left 7/16 wing attach bo lt on the left wing.=C2- I had no problem with the similar bolt on the ri ght wing.=C2- This is the bolt that's behind the landing gear structure, the most difficult to get a wrench on its nut.=C2-=0A>I=C2-oiled the bo lt, and can wrench it to within about 1/4 inch from the main spar,=C2-but can not wrench any more.=C2- I tried wiggling the wing and=C2-loosened the 1/4 bolt next to it, it's the only other bolt installed.=C2- But, no luck. it just won't turn.=C2- I hate to put a long pipe on the the 1/2 d rive ratchet the I am using for fear of distorting the bolt head.=C2- =0A == =C2=C2=B7=BA~=B0=C3=AD=C2=B2,=C3=9Eg(=93=C5-=C3=93M 4=C3=93G=C3=9Aq=C3=BC=C2=A2=C3=C3=A2z=C2=B9=C3=9E=C3=81=C3=8A.=C2=AE'=C2 =AB8^E^=C3=8B=C5-=C3=8BD=84=A2=C2=A8=C2=A5=C5-=C3=AE=EF=BD,z=C3 =98^1=C2=ABk=C2=A2x=C5=93=C2=B0=C2=B8=C2=AC=C2=B4W=C5=A1=C2=B6=C3=C3=9E =C2=B0=C3'=C2=AF=C5-=C2=AD=C2=A2=C2=BBhn=C2=BA0=C2=B1=C3=AD=C3 =A9=C5=A1=C5=B8"=C3=A2=C2=B2=C3=9B=C2=AD=C5-X=C2=AD=B0=C3=AB,=C2=B9 =C3=88Z=C2=B0=C2=B8=C2=AC=C2=B5I=C3J=C3=C3=ACr=C2=B8=C2=A9=C2=B6*'


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    Time: 12:57:58 PM PST US
    From: Francis Herr <fherr@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A
    Did you happen to check whether the close tolerance bolts would fit the individual components before integrating them? I would probably remove the wing and try if not. Also, have you been using a standard bolt (maybe with a "bullet shaped end") to align all the holes. I used 4 such bolts of each of the two sizes on a wing. Francis On Oct 6, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Herb Feldman wrote: Yes the bolt head is 1/4" from the main spar. I tried tapping it in further with a rivet gun, but no luck. I am wondering while the threaded part of the bolt goes through the hole in the steel plate of the gear attachment, can the shank, which is a little greater in diameter than the threads, be to big to go through the hole? As I said, the bolt on the other wing worked OK. I'll keep trying. Herb From: "bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net> Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 3:58 PM Subject: Re: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A Are you saying it's the bolt head that's 1/4" from the main spar? I believe I got a flat screwdriver or some other object -- maybe a bucking bar, I forget -- and tapped it with a rubber mallet or a rivet gun set on very low pressure. Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Herb Feldman <az944@lafn.org> Sent: Wed, Oct 5, 2011 22:32:01 GMT+00:00 Subject: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A I am having a problem trying to seat the lower left 7/16 wing attach bolt on the left wing. I had no problem with the similar bolt on the right wing. This is the bolt that's behind the landing gear structure, the most difficult to get a wrench on its nut. I oiled the bolt, and can wrench it to within about 1/4 inch from the main spar, but can not wrench any more. I tried wiggling the wing and loosened the 1/4 bolt next to it, it's the only other bolt installed. But, no luck. it just won't turn. I hate to put a long pipe on the the 1/2 drive ratchet the I am using for fear of distorting the bolt head. Any ideas would be appreciated. Herb =C2=C2=B7=BA~=B0=C3=AD=C2=B2,=C3=9Eg(=93=C5-=C3=93M 4=C3=93G=C3=9Aq=C3=BC=C2=A2=C3=C3=A2z=C2=B9=C3=9E=C3=81=C3=8A.=C2=AE'=C2 =AB8^E^=C3=8B=C5-=C3=8BD=84=A2=C2=A8=C2=A5=C5-=C3=AE=EF=BD,z=C3=98 ^1=C2=ABk=C2=A2x=C5=93=C2=B0=C2=B8=C2=AC=C2=B4W=C5=A1=C2=B6=C3=C3=9E=C2 =B0=C3'=C2=AF=C5-=C2=AD=C2=A2=C2=BBhn=C2=BA0=C2=B1=C3=AD=C3=A9 =C5=A1=C5=B8"=C3=A2=C2=B2=C3=9B=C2=AD=C5-X=C2=AD=B0=C3=AB,=C2=B9=C3 =88Z=C2=B0=C2=B8=C2=AC=C2=B5I=C3J=C3=C3=ACr=C2=B8=C2=A9=C2=B6*'


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    Time: 01:13:39 PM PST US
    From: "Watson, Stephen H (313A)" <stephen.h.watson@jpl.nasa.gov>
    Subject: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A
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    Time: 03:15:48 PM PST US
    From: Herb Feldman <hfaz@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A
    I am using standard bolts for alligning.=C2- Remove the wing, hmm, how ca n I get the that bolt out that's already=C2-through the spar and up to th e gear plate?=0AThanks=C2- - Herb=C2-=0A=0AFrom: Francis Herr <fherr@cf l.rr.com>=0ATo: rv7-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 12 :55 PM=0ASubject: Re: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A=0A=0A=0ADid you happen to check whether the close tolerance bolts would fit the individ ual components before integrating them?=C2-I would probably remove the wi ng and try if not. =0A=0AAlso, have you been using a standard bolt (maybe w ith a "bullet shaped end") to align all the holes. I used 4 such bolts of e ach of the two sizes on a wing.=0A=0AFrancis=0A=0A=0AOn Oct 6, 2011, at 3:4 4 PM, Herb Feldman wrote:=0A=0AYes the bolt head is 1/4" from the main spar . I tried tapping it in further with a rivet gun, but no luck.=C2- I am w ondering=C2-while the threaded part of the bolt goes through the hole in the steel plate of the gear attachment, can the shank, which is a little gr eater in diameter than the threads, be to big to go through the hole?=C2- As I said, the bolt on the other wing worked OK.=C2-=C2-=C2-I'll kee p trying.=0AHerb=0A=0AFrom: "bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net" <bcollinsrv7a@comcas t.net>=0ATo: rv7-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 3:58 PM=0ASubject: Re: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A=0A=0A=0AAre you saying it's the bolt head that's 1/4" from the main spar? I believe I got a flat screwdriver or some other object -- maybe a bucking bar, I forget -- and tapped it with a rubber mallet or a rivet gun set on very low pressure .=0A=0AConnected by DROID on Verizon Wireless=0A=0A-----Original message--- --=0A=0AFrom: Herb Feldman <az944@lafn.org>=0A>To: rv7-list@matronics.com =0A>Sent: Wed, Oct 5, 2011 22:32:01 GMT+00:00=0A>Subject: RV7-List: Install ing wing bolts on RV-7A=0A>=0A>=0A>I am having a problem trying to seat the lower left 7/16 wing attach bolt on the left wing.=C2- I had no problem with the similar bolt on the right wing.=C2- This is the bolt that's behi nd the landing gear structure, the most difficult to get a wrench on its nu t.=C2-=0A>I=C2-oiled the bolt, and can wrench it to within about 1/4 in ch from the main spar,=C2-but can not wrench any more.=C2- I tried wigg ling the wing and=C2-loosened the 1/4 bolt next to it, it's the only othe r bolt installed.=C2- But, no luck. it just won't turn.=C2- I hate to p ut a long pipe on the the 1/2 drive ratchet the I am using for fear of dist orting the bolt head.=C2- =0A>Any ideas would be appreciated.=0A>Herb=C2 =C2=B7=BA~=B0=C3=AD=C2=B2,=C3=9Eg(=93=C5-=C3=93M4=C3 =93G=C3=9Aq=C3=BC=C2=A2=C3=C3=A2z=C2=B9=C3=9E=C3=81=C3=8A.=C2=AE'=C2=AB8 ^E^=C3=8B=C5-=C3=8BD=84=A2=C2=A8=C2=A5=C5-=C3=AE=EF=BD,z=C3=98^1 =C2=ABk=C2=A2x=C5=93=C2=B0=C2=B8=C2=AC=C2=B4W=C5=A1=C2=B6=C3=C3=9E=C2=B0 =C3'=C2=AF=C5-=C2=AD=C2=A2=C2=BBhn=C2=BA0=C2=B1=C3=AD=C3=A9=C5 =A1=C5=B8"=C3=A2=C2=B2=C3=9B=C2=AD=C5-X=C2=AD=B0=C3=AB,=C2=B9=C3=88 Z=C2=B0=C2=B8=C2=AC=C2=B5I=C3J=C3=C3=ACr=C2=B8=C2=A9=C2=B6*'=0A=0A=0A href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV7-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?RV7-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums .matronics.comhref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www. ========================


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    From: Dan Reeves <n516dr@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A
    Is that the first and only bolt you have semi-in for that wing so far? If s o perhaps installing a couple of the other bolts will better align things su ch that original bolt will slide through. I used a couple of hardware store bolts with the threads ground off to align things and left those in while i nstalling the other close tolerance bolts. By that point it was fairly easy to pull out the make-shift pins and slide in the final close tolerance bolt s. Maybe that first bolt is pinched a bit if it's the only one in so far an d perhaps installing the other bolts will bring things into better alignment and allow it to slide the rest of the way through. Don't forget to start t hreading the nut as soon as you have one or two treads through for those low er bolts. Otherwise If you push them all the way through there won't be en ough clearance to install the nuts. Good luck! Dan Reeves Sent from my iPad On Oct 6, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Herb Feldman <hfaz@yahoo.com> wrote: > I am using standard bolts for alligning. Remove the wing, hmm, how can I g et the that bolt out that's already through the spar and up to the gear plat e? > Thanks - Herb > > From: Francis Herr <fherr@cfl.rr.com> > To: rv7-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 12:55 PM > Subject: Re: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A > > Did you happen to check whether the close tolerance bolts would fit the in dividual components before integrating them? I would probably remove the win g and try if not. > > Also, have you been using a standard bolt (maybe with a "bullet shaped end ") to align all the holes. I used 4 such bolts of each of the two sizes on a wing. > > Francis > > On Oct 6, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Herb Feldman wrote: > > Yes the bolt head is 1/4" from the main spar. I tried tapping it in furthe r with a rivet gun, but no luck. I am wondering while the threaded part of t he bolt goes through the hole in the steel plate of the gear attachment, can the shank, which is a little greater in diameter than the threads, be to bi g to go through the hole? As I said, the bolt on the other wing worked OK. I'll keep trying. > Herb > > From: "bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net> > To: rv7-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 3:58 PM > Subject: Re: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A > > Are you saying it's the bolt head that's 1/4" from the main spar? I believ e I got a flat screwdriver or some other object -- maybe a bucking bar, I fo rget -- and tapped it with a rubber mallet or a rivet gun set on very low pr essure. > > Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless > > > -----Original message----- > From: Herb Feldman <az944@lafn.org> > To: rv7-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wed, Oct 5, 2011 22:32:01 GMT+00:00 > Subject: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A > > I am having a problem trying to seat the lower left 7/16 wing attach bolt o n the left wing. I had no problem with the similar bolt on the right wing. This is the bolt that's behind the landing gear structure, the most difficu lt to get a wrench on its nut. > I oiled the bolt, and can wrench it to within about 1/4 inch from the main spar, but can not wrench any more. I tried wiggling the wing and loosened t he 1/4 bolt next to it, it's the only other bolt installed. But, no luck. i t just won't turn. I hate to put a long pipe on the the 1/2 drive ratchet t he I am using for fear of distorting the bolt head. > Any ideas would be appreciated. > Herb > > > > =C2=C2=B7=BA~=B0=C3=AD=C2=B2,=C3=9Eg(=93=C5-=C3=93M 4=C3=93G=C3=9Aq=C3=BC=C2=A2=C3=C3=A2z=C2=B9=C3=9E=C3=81=C3=8A.=C2=AE'=C2=AB 8^E^=C3=8B=C5-=C3=8BD=84=A2=C2=A8=C2=A5=C5-=C3=AE=EF=BD,z=C3=98^1=C2 =ABk=C2=A2x=C5=93=C2=B0=C2=B8=C2=AC=C2=B4W=C5=A1=C2=B6=C3=C3=9E=C2=B0=C3' =C2=AF=C5- =C2=A2=C2=BBhn=C2=BA0=C2=B1=C3=AD=C3=A9=C5=A1=C5=B8"=C3 =A2=C2=B2=C3=9B =C5-X =B0=C3=AB,=C2=B9=C3=88Z=C2=B0=C2=B8=C2=AC=C2=B5 I=C3J=C3=C3=ACr=C2=B8=C2=A9=C2=B6*' > > > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV7-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?RV7-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/co ntribution > > > > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >




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