RV7-List Digest Archive

Tue 11/15/11


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     0. 12:22 AM - What's Your Contribution Used For?  (Matt Dralle)
     1. 02:49 PM - Canopy Open (RV7ASask)
     2. 03:42 PM - Re: Canopy Open (Franz Fux)
     3. 03:55 PM - Re: Canopy Open (Charlie England)
     4. 06:12 PM - Re: Canopy Open (RV7ASask)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:22:01 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: What's Your Contribution Used For?
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    Time: 02:49:16 PM PST US
    Subject: Canopy Open
    From: "RV7ASask" <rv7alamb@sasktel.net>
    My RV7A, after nearly nine years, is just about ready to fly. I have been taxiing around and managed to iron out a couple of small bugs. The only big hurdle left is the final inspection. I think I have all the paperwork in order but there is one conundrum. An old boss once told me if you copy someones work it is plagiarism; if you use more than one source it is research. I have done extensive research and with my own input have come up with Normal Operating Checklists (one page two sides), Emergency Checklists (two pages totaling 3 sides) and a Pilots Operating Handbook (now at 100+ pages and growing). In my Emergency Checklists I have three occasions; for CARBON MONOXIDE FUMES, CABIN SMOKE REMOVAL and DITCHING, where I have stated either Canopy.... Unlatch or Canopy.... Slightly Open. Then, I added a WARNING... Unlatching the canopy in flight may result in separation of the canopy from the aircraft. What do we know about flying an RV6, RV7 or RV9 with the canopy open? Has anyone ever done this? Has anyone ever intentionally opened the canopy in flight? Has anyone ever had a canopy separation from the aircraft? This is again just part of the research. Regards David Lamb RV7A C-FLAM almost ready to fly Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=358061#358061


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    Time: 03:42:52 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Canopy Open
    From: Franz Fux <franz@lastfrontierheli.com>
    I assume that you are talking about a slider. I had mine open up once just after take off, due to me not following the checklist. It opened up about 15cm and then stopped. I could close it with one hand, after stabilizing the aircraft in cruise flight. On the other hand we had a crash of an RV9 at a neighboring field due to the same oversight, details not known to me Cheers Franz RV7A 600h On 15/11/11 2:46 PM, "RV7ASask" <rv7alamb@sasktel.net> wrote: > > My RV7A, after nearly nine years, is just about ready to fly. I have been > taxiing around and managed to iron out a couple of small bugs. The only big > hurdle left is the final inspection. I think I have all the paperwork in order > but there is one conundrum. > > An old boss once told me if you copy someones work it is plagiarism; if you > use more than one source it is research. I have done extensive research and > with my own input have come up with Normal Operating Checklists (one > page two sides), Emergency Checklists (two pages totaling 3 sides) and a > Pilots Operating Handbook (now at 100+ pages and growing). > > In my Emergency Checklists I have three occasions; for CARBON > MONOXIDE FUMES, CABIN SMOKE REMOVAL and DITCHING, where I have > stated either Canopy.... Unlatch or Canopy.... Slightly Open. > Then, I added a WARNING... Unlatching the canopy in flight may result in > separation of the canopy from the aircraft. > > What do we know about flying an RV6, RV7 or RV9 with the canopy open? Has > anyone ever done this? Has anyone ever intentionally opened the canopy in > flight? Has anyone ever had a canopy separation from the aircraft? This is > again just part of the research. > > Regards > > David Lamb > RV7A > C-FLAM almost ready to fly > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=358061#358061 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:55:19 PM PST US
    From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Canopy Open
    On 11/15/2011 4:46 PM, RV7ASask wrote: > --> RV7-List message posted by: "RV7ASask"<rv7alamb@sasktel.net> > > My RV7A, after nearly nine years, is just about ready to fly. I have been taxiing around and managed to iron out a couple of small bugs. The only big hurdle left is the final inspection. I think I have all the paperwork in order but there is one conundrum. > > An old boss once told me if you copy someones work it is plagiarism; if you use more than one source it is research. I have done extensive research and with my own input have come up with Normal Operating Checklists (one page two sides), Emergency Checklists (two pages totaling 3 sides) and a Pilots Operating Handbook (now at 100+ pages and growing). > > In my Emergency Checklists I have three occasions; for CARBON MONOXIDE FUMES, CABIN SMOKE REMOVAL and DITCHING, where I have stated either Canopy.... Unlatch or Canopy.... Slightly Open. Then, I added a WARNING... Unlatching the canopy in flight may result in separation of the canopy from the aircraft. > > What do we know about flying an RV6, RV7 or RV9 with the canopy open? Has anyone ever done this? Has anyone ever intentionally opened the canopy in flight? Has anyone ever had a canopy separation from the aircraft? This is again just part of the research. > > Regards > > David Lamb > RV7A > C-FLAM almost ready to fly I don't think you will have any major issues (except underwear laundering) with either the tipup or slider. Sliders will typically open a few inches & you can't force them any farther open while at normal speeds. Tipups will rise a few inches in the rear (no more) & can't be pulled closed unless you slow down a lot & deploy the flaps. I've seen some forum chatter supporting my slider statement, but I can't point you to any slider references (checking with Van's is always the best policy on safety issues anyway). A friend has tested the tipup (can't remember if it was a 6A or 9A; he's built both). He got the results detailed above. The -4 with tipover is another matter entirely. If the safety doesn't catch it, it will 'unzip' the hinge rivets. (This is a design feature to allow the canopy to depart if the occupants need to follow.) Hope that helps, Charlie


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    Time: 06:12:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Canopy Open
    From: "RV7ASask" <rv7alamb@sasktel.net>
    Thanks for the comments. My 7A is a slider. David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=358073#358073




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