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1. 10:37 AM - Re: RV10-List: Speaking of Dynon Skyview... (Matt Dralle)
2. 12:51 PM - Re: RV-List: Re: RV10-List: Speaking of Dynon Skyview... (Ralph Finch)
3. 01:15 PM - Re: RV10-List: Speaking of Dynon Skyview... (Pascal)
4. 04:37 PM - Re: Speaking of Vertical Power VP-200 and VP-X... (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Re: RV10-List: Speaking of Dynon Skyview... |
>At 09:17 PM 12/30/2011 Friday, you wrote:
>Got the VP-200 for safety reasons and pre-VPX era. You may not need it, and that
will free up that space for a IFR screen, if you wish. I will say that the
safety features that the VP uses for mode switches and engine alarms is great!
>
>Pascal
Listers,
I would also highly recommend the Vertical Power VP-200. I wouldn't fly an Experimental
without one. Look how clean Pacscal's panel is without all those switches
and circuit breakers! Nice. Push that Green button once when you get
in, and from then on the VP-200 takes care of turning On and Off all the various
circuits depending on the automatically detected Mode of flight. Startup,
Taxi, Runup, Takeoff, Cruise, Landing, etc. Its pretty darn cool. I've got 172
hours on the RV-8 and 48 hours on the RV-6 both with VP-200 systems and have
found it to work flawlessly. If you're on the fence about buying one, don't
be. You'll love it. Best money I've spent on both RVs, hands down. See attached
pictures of my VP-200 from both the RV-8 and RV-6. The RV-8 has dual alternators
for redundancy and this is supported by the VP-200 and shown as the
"Pri Alt" and "Sec Alt" on the main display.
Pascal, you should contact Vertical power and get the latest software update for
the VP-200 (from early December 2011). It now supports full EMS data link from
the Dynon Skyview so all of the Mode selection is fully automatic. You also
get some of the primary engine instrument display on the VP-200 screen as well
as a myriad of visual and audible engine annunciators. Works great.
-
Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 48+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
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| Subject: | Re: RV-List: Re: RV10-List: Speaking of Dynon Skyview... |
Matt, what do you think about the VP-X? It's a lot cheaper but doesn't have
the flight modes or extra display and thus requires all the switches still
(just no circuit breakers).
Ralph Finch
Davis
Listers,
>
> I would also highly recommend the Vertical Power VP-200. I wouldn't fly
> an Experimental without one. Look how clean Pacscal's panel is without all
> those switches and circuit breakers! Nice. Push that Green button once
> when you get in, and from then on the VP-200 takes care of turning On and
> Off all the various circuits depending on the automatically detected Mode
> of flight. Startup, Taxi, Runup, Takeoff, Cruise, Landing, etc. Its
> pretty darn cool. I've got 172 hours on the RV-8 and 48 hours on the RV-6
> both with VP-200 systems and have found it to work flawlessly. If you're
> on the fence about buying one, don't be. You'll love it. Best money I've
> spent on both RVs, hands down. See attached pictures of my VP-200 from
> both the RV-8 and RV-6. The RV-8 has dual alternators for redundancy and
> this is supported by the VP-200 and shown as the "Pri Alt" and "Sec Alt" on
> the main display.
>
> Pascal, you should contact Vertical power and get the latest software
> update for the VP-200 (from early December 2011). It now supports full EMS
> data link from the Dynon Skyview so all of the Mode selection is fully
> automatic. You also get some of the primary engine instrument display on
> the VP-200 screen as well as a myriad of visual and audible engine
> annunciators. Works great.
>
>
> -
> Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
>
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
> http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
> Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
>
> RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
> http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
> Status: 48+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer
> Mode
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV10-List: Speaking of Dynon Skyview... |
Matt;
You are right on!
I pressed Robert at Dynon and Marc at every flyin to get the implementation
of the software. Because of this I have been fortunate to get a early view
of it. It's remains BETA as far as I can tell . Data logging, not in the
Skyview yet, has worked fantastically for me with LOP ops; mode switching?
well, my wife wanted safety, doesn't get more safe than having that
"co-pilot" control each and every step for me. The fly off has been so much
easier with the VP-200, as I set what I want it to do at each mode on the
ground and it gets completed in the air so I dont need to think about it. I
also like the fact that my checklist is on the screen, so no pulling out the
paper list while flying, (ie- "runup mode" kicks in at 1700rpm and mag check
shows difference and results of check; "landing mode" determined by engine
information and checklist comes on, I use a button on my stick to
acknowledge the step and if I get distracted, well, I know where I left off
as it is still highlighted, so I can move on without missing a step- happens
when I use my paper checklist.The warnings for the engine info are also a
great safety item (not in the skyview yet either) when CHT's and EGT exceed
my POH numbers. Lets me focus on flying and not staring at my higher EGTs as
I go lower without thinking about the Mixture- good reminder that I need to
check something. It has not happened but if it ever did.. I have it now with
a female voice telling me "CHECK EGT.. CHECK EGT".
It's a expensive investment, but it's a investment I never regretted,
especially now that it is doing everything I heard it could do.
Dynon and Vertical Power really are customer focused companies. I wish Dynon
would move their capabilities for the Skyview along, and in time I believe
they will have the audio alarms and data logging, they have the VP-X
integration (extra charge applies) which removes the switches and gives that
extra space on the panel, but they will never have the mode changes seen in
the VP-200.
There really is so much the VP-200 does for safety (keyless start, emergency
procedures, electrical triage when battery charge is decreasing (aka
alternator failure)etc) that it would take me a while to cover. If anyone is
wondering what it looks like- check out their Take a flight demo
http://www.verticalpower.com/Take-a-Flight/
and their page.
http://www.verticalpower.com/VP200.html
This forum is to help others.. I preach Desser/Cee baileys because for
custom fit windows they are the best way to go, versus having to do all the
fitting one self and at the same price as Vans sells the pieces.. I gain
nothing with this company nor with telling you my experience with VP-200
other than giving my feedback.
Hope it helps someone.
Pascal
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Dralle
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 10:32 AM
; rv7-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Speaking of Dynon Skyview...
>At 09:17 PM 12/30/2011 Friday, you wrote:
>Got the VP-200 for safety reasons and pre-VPX era. You may not need it, and
>that will free up that space for a IFR screen, if you wish. I will say that
>the safety features that the VP uses for mode switches and engine alarms
>is great!
>
>Pascal
Listers,
I would also highly recommend the Vertical Power VP-200. I wouldn't fly an
Experimental without one. Look how clean Pacscal's panel is without all
those switches and circuit breakers! Nice. Push that Green button once
when you get in, and from then on the VP-200 takes care of turning On and
Off all the various circuits depending on the automatically detected Mode of
flight. Startup, Taxi, Runup, Takeoff, Cruise, Landing, etc. Its pretty
darn cool. I've got 172 hours on the RV-8 and 48 hours on the RV-6 both
with VP-200 systems and have found it to work flawlessly. If you're on the
fence about buying one, don't be. You'll love it. Best money I've spent on
both RVs, hands down. See attached pictures of my VP-200 from both the RV-8
and RV-6. The RV-8 has dual alternators for redundancy and this is
supported by the VP-200 and shown as the "Pri Alt" and "Sec Alt" on the main
display.
Pascal, you should contact Vertical power and get the latest software update
for the VP-200 (from early December 2011). It now supports full EMS data
link from the Dynon Skyview so all of the Mode selection is fully automatic.
You also get some of the primary engine instrument display on the VP-200
screen as well as a myriad of visual and audible engine annunciators. Works
great.
-
Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 48+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
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| Subject: | Re: Speaking of Vertical Power VP-200 and VP-X... |
At 12:48 PM 12/31/2011 Saturday, Ralph Finch wrote:
>Matt, what do you think about the VP-X? It's a lot cheaper but doesn't have the
flight modes or extra display and thus requires all the switches still (just
no circuit breakers).
>
>Ralph Finch
>Davis
The Vertical Power VP-X is definitely a step in the right direction for your typical
Experimental aircraft electrical system. It also allows you to use standard
small signal switches for even the largest of current circuits which saves
space, weight, and money. If the VP-200 didn't exist, there is no question
that I would use the VP-X for my Experimental nerve center.
That being said, the VP-200 adds *so* much more functionality over the VP-X, I
would always recommend it first. The VP-200 truly infuses 21st century technology
with our Experimental aircraft. Given the quality and functionality it brings
to the table, it is exceptionally well priced. If I were on a tight budget,
I would forgo a second GPS, Comm, or EFIS display before I would sacrifice
the functionality provided by the VP-200.
The VP-200 rates a 5 out of 5 in my opinion.
( BTW, I don't get a kick back from Vertical Power; I'm just a very happy, satisfied
and *repeat* customer. :-) )
-
Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 48+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
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