Today's Message Index:
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1. 04:12 AM - IO-360 & O-360 power spreadsheets (Kevin Horton)
2. 05:56 AM - Fuel Sender Help (Jack Textor)
3. 08:06 AM - Re: Fuel Sender Help (Jolly)
4. 09:19 AM - Re: Rear Cockpit Heat (Doug Ritter)
5. 10:15 AM - Re: Rear Cockpit Heat (George Murphy)
6. 10:52 AM - Re: Rear Cockpit Heat (Bert Penney)
7. 01:31 PM - List of Contributors #2 - Thank You... (Matt Dralle)
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lycoming@yahoogroups.com
| Subject: | IO-360 & O-360 power spreadsheets |
--> RV8-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorto1537@rogers.com>
I corrected the errors I found in the IO-360 power spreadsheet. It
is built from the Lycoming chart for the IO-360-A, -C, -D, -J, -K and
AIO-360 series.
I tried comparing it to data from the POH for a 1977 Mooney 201 with
a IO-360-A3B6 engine. However it quickly became clear that the data
in the Mooney POH differs significantly from the Lycoming power
chart. For example, at 8000 ft and 2700 rpm, Mooney claims that
23.6" manifold pressure gives 75% power, while the Lycoming power
chart gives something like 21" for 75%. Either Mooney wants to
cruise at artificially high power to give good marketing numbers, or
they measure manifold pressure differently than Lycoming or Lycoming
has changed their power chart since 1977.
The corrected Excel 4 spreadsheet basically replicates the graphical
power chart found in the Lycoming Operator Manual. The zipped
spreadsheet can be found on my web site - there is a link in the
Engine part of the RV Links section, and there will be a link on the
front page of the site for the next while.
Several years ago I created an Excel 4 spreadsheet version of a power
chart for the Lycoming O-360-A and -C engines. It is also available
on my web site.
--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (baffles, induction air, oil cooler)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
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"RV-List \(E-mail\)" <rv-list@matronics.com>
| Subject: | Fuel Sender Help |
--> RV8-List message posted by: "Jack Textor" <jack@personnelincorporated.com>
Happy New Year friends! I'm just finishing my second tank and found the, I
think, fuel sender is inaccurate. When testing with the arm all the way up
it reads full. When testing with it in the lowest position it reads about a
couple gallons off the lower gauge peg. I tried it with two gauges and got
the same reading. My first sender seems to be right on. Anyone else run
into this problem?
Thanks,
Jack Textor
RV8, wings
KDSM
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Sender Help |
--> RV8-List message posted by: "Jolly" <jollyd@ipns.com>
i did also..I started to compare the two units, and found with wires to the
floats were a bit different..after cussing at myself made them exactly the
same, and didn't have any more proplems..in cast this does not work for
you..try weighing each float and wire..they might weigh diffwerent..happy
new year. and blus skys to you!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Textor" <jack@personnelincorporated.com>
<rv-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RV8-List: Fuel Sender Help
> --> RV8-List message posted by: "Jack Textor"
<jack@personnelincorporated.com>
>
> Happy New Year friends! I'm just finishing my second tank and found the,
I
> think, fuel sender is inaccurate. When testing with the arm all the way
up
> it reads full. When testing with it in the lowest position it reads about
a
> couple gallons off the lower gauge peg. I tried it with two gauges and
got
> the same reading. My first sender seems to be right on. Anyone else run
> into this problem?
> Thanks,
> Jack Textor
> RV8, wings
> KDSM
>
>
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| Subject: | Rear Cockpit Heat |
--> RV8-List message posted by: Doug Ritter <d.d.ritter@verizon.net>
I'm not at that point yet (just started my RV8 wings) but I really like the
idea of a water-cooled engine (in particular, the new developing "diesel")
for many reasons including the nice car-like heating system you get from a
radiator. What do you think? I'm in the mid-Atlantic but do plan to fly
high where it's cold.
At 11:23 AM 1/2/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> RV8-List message posted by: "Bert Penney" <van@entechnos.com>
>
>Hi Stephen,
>
>I guess my expectations are a little high. I was kinda hoping that I
>could have an auto type environment where I could sit in my shirt
>sleeves regardless of the outside temp. Oh, well. I have lots of time,
>so I'll keep pondering the problem.
>
>Bert
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Stephen J. Soule [mailto:SSoule@pfclaw.com]
>To: 'rv8-list@matronics.com'
>Subject: RE: RV8-List: Rear Cockpit Heat
>
>--> RV8-List message posted by: "Stephen J. Soule" <SSoule@pfclaw.com>
>
>Bert,
>
>I wear a snowmobile suit at temperatures below freezing in my RV-6A. I
>bought a surplus USAF Nomex insulated flight suit that is also very
>comfortable, but a little hard to get on and off. I wear insulated
>boots,
>too. Sorrel boots or Lacrosse work well. I look like I'm ready for ice
>fishing when I'm suited up. I would like to be comfortable if I have to
>land
>in a field or on a frozen lake, so that is another reason to wear a moon
>suit in the winter!
>
>Sun coming into the bubble canopy keeps pilot and passenger warm from
>the
>waist up. I have a single heat muff that discharges on the passenger's
>feet.
>
>
>Stephen Soule
>Huntington, Vermont
>N227RV (RV-6A flying)
>N222SZ (RV-8 under construction)
>
>-----Original Message-----I just purchased an RV-8 empennage, so I am a
>long
>way from worrying
>about heat, but since I live in Canada, one thing that has been a bit of
>concern for me is operating an RV in the winter. It seems to me that,
>with just a thin sheet of al between me and the outside, there is a
>fairly high potential for very cold and uncomfortable flying. Has
>anyone spent much time flying their RV in very cold (-20 to -40)
>weather?
>
>
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rear Cockpit Heat |
--> RV8-List message posted by: "George Murphy" <george@atlantic.net>
For Sale Completed RV8/A fuselage $10,000.00
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| Subject: | Rear Cockpit Heat |
--> RV8-List message posted by: "Bert Penney" <van@entechnos.com>
Hi Doug,
I think you are coming from the same place I am. The Delta Hawk engine
has me very intrigued and, since my next door neighbor is a GM mechanic,
I have been toying with the idea of "liberating" a complete heating
system from a mini van (so I can have back seat heat) and installing
that in the -8. The biggest potential problem I see with that is
weight. I have no idea at this point how much this system weighs or how
much additional weight I would have to include for insulation, but it is
something worth investigating.
Bert
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Ritter [mailto:d.d.ritter@verizon.net]
Subject: RE: RV8-List: Rear Cockpit Heat
--> RV8-List message posted by: Doug Ritter <d.d.ritter@verizon.net>
I'm not at that point yet (just started my RV8 wings) but I really like
the
idea of a water-cooled engine (in particular, the new developing
"diesel")
for many reasons including the nice car-like heating system you get from
a
radiator. What do you think? I'm in the mid-Atlantic but do plan to
fly
high where it's cold.
At 11:23 AM 1/2/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> RV8-List message posted by: "Bert Penney" <van@entechnos.com>
>
>Hi Stephen,
>
>I guess my expectations are a little high. I was kinda hoping that I
>could have an auto type environment where I could sit in my shirt
>sleeves regardless of the outside temp. Oh, well. I have lots of
time,
>so I'll keep pondering the problem.
>
>Bert
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Stephen J. Soule [mailto:SSoule@pfclaw.com]
>To: 'rv8-list@matronics.com'
>Subject: RE: RV8-List: Rear Cockpit Heat
>
>--> RV8-List message posted by: "Stephen J. Soule" <SSoule@pfclaw.com>
>
>Bert,
>
>I wear a snowmobile suit at temperatures below freezing in my RV-6A. I
>bought a surplus USAF Nomex insulated flight suit that is also very
>comfortable, but a little hard to get on and off. I wear insulated
>boots,
>too. Sorrel boots or Lacrosse work well. I look like I'm ready for ice
>fishing when I'm suited up. I would like to be comfortable if I have to
>land
>in a field or on a frozen lake, so that is another reason to wear a
moon
>suit in the winter!
>
>Sun coming into the bubble canopy keeps pilot and passenger warm from
>the
>waist up. I have a single heat muff that discharges on the passenger's
>feet.
>
>
>Stephen Soule
>Huntington, Vermont
>N227RV (RV-6A flying)
>N222SZ (RV-8 under construction)
>
>-----Original Message-----I just purchased an RV-8 empennage, so I am a
>long
>way from worrying
>about heat, but since I live in Canada, one thing that has been a bit
of
>concern for me is operating an RV in the winter. It seems to me that,
>with just a thin sheet of al between me and the outside, there is a
>fairly high potential for very cold and uncomfortable flying. Has
>anyone spent much time flying their RV in very cold (-20 to -40)
>weather?
>
>
>>
>
=
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| Subject: | List of Contributors #2 - Thank You... |
--> RV8-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
I was particularly touched this year by all of the wonderful comments
people made regarding the Lists and how much they mean to them. As I have
said many times before, running these Lists and creating the many new
features is truly a labor of love.
I will be shipping out the third and final shipment of Flight Bags and A&P
Text Books this afternoon. According to the Post Office, maximum delivery
to the most remote of areas is 8 days. I will have no outstanding Gift
requests following this shipment, so if you don't get the Gift(s) you
requested by, say, the 20th of January, please let me know via email.
I would also once again like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore
( http://www.buildersbooks.com ) who so generously supported this year's
Fund Raiser with both free and substantially discounted merchandise!!
Below you will find the 2002 List of Contributors #2 current as of
12/31/02! Have a look at the list of names there as these are the people
that make all of the services possible! I can't thank you all enough for
your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser!
Once again, THANK YOU for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
------------------- 2002 List of Contributors #2 -----------------
Adamson, Arden
Andrews, Donald
Bates, Marcus Jr.
Bello, Ariel
Bowhay, Eustace
Boyd, Dave
Carpenter, Kenneth
Carter, David
Clark, Lynn
Dezzani, Peter
Domascimento, Marcio
Enns, Dennis
Fogerson, Richard
Forero, Bert
Gadd, Skip
Gardner, Kip
Hasper, Joseph
Herndon, Richard
Hill, Jeff
Hurd, James
Jefferies, Mark
Johnson, Darrell
Johnson, Jackie
Jones, Eric
Kosta, Michael
Larson, Glenn
Macy, Frank "lucky"
Mehrhoff, Stan
Metzger, Jim
Minichan, David
Moore, Robert
Moore, Warren
Mosher, Doc
Mosier, Colby
Pahnke, Douglas
Reynolds, Richard
Reynolds, Stephen
Sloan, Alex
Slyfield, Skip
Tauchen, Bryan
Travis, T.E.
Uribe, Guillermo
Waligroski, Gregg
Wentzell, David
------------------- 2002 List of Contributors #2 -----------------
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