RV8-List Digest Archive

Sun 01/05/03


Total Messages Posted: 5



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:40 AM - Re: Rear Cockpit Heat (Jim Stone)
     2. 06:48 AM - Re: Rear Cockpit Heat (RICKRV6@aol.com)
     3. 01:29 PM - Re: Rear Cockpit Heat (Norman)
     4. 06:01 PM - Rv 8 cockpit heat - rear (richard martin)
     5. 06:04 PM - Rv 8 cockpit heat - rear (richard martin)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:40:57 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com>
    Subject: Re: Rear Cockpit Heat
    --> RV8-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com> Rick, Where did you get them? What auto seat were they designed for? How much did they cost? Do you know how many amps they draw? Thanks, Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: <RICKRV6@aol.com> Subject: Re: RV8-List: Rear Cockpit Heat > --> RV8-List message posted by: RICKRV6@aol.com > > I purchased a set for my -8. I had DJ at Clevealand install them when they > made my seats. I haven't had the opportunity to use them but the > installations was simple. > > Rick McBride > > n a message dated 1/4/03 6:46:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, > jrstone@insightbb.com writes: > > > --> RV8-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com> > > > > What about heated seats as in autos? I think that to be a possible source > > of heat, don't know of a source or cost though. > > Jim Stone > > HR II > > > >


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    Time: 06:48:22 AM PST US
    From: RICKRV6@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Rear Cockpit Heat
    --> RV8-List message posted by: RICKRV6@aol.com I purchase mine from a local upholstery shop. They are made by Check Corp. at <A HREF="www.checkcorp.com">www.checkcorp.com. The web site lists suppliers. They are generic in nature and can be applied to most style of seats. I paid $96.00 including local tax for each seat. I have the on/off version. They also make a hi-low-off version as well. One seat draws 6.1 amps at 13.8 volts. Hope this helps. Rick McBride In a message dated 1/5/03 8:41:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, jrstone@insightbb.com writes: > --> RV8-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com> > > Rick, > Where did you get them? What auto seat were they designed for? How much > did they cost? Do you know how many amps they draw? > Thanks, > Jim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <RICKRV6@aol.com> > To: <rv8-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: RV8-List: Rear Cockpit Heat > > > >--> RV8-List message posted by: RICKRV6@aol.com > > > >I purchased a set for my -8. I had DJ at Clevealand install them when > they > >made my seats. I haven't had the opportunity to use them but the > >installations was simple. > > > >Rick McBride > > > >n a message dated 1/4/03 6:46:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, > >jrstone@insightbb.com writes: > > > >>--> RV8-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com> > >> > >>What about heated seats as in autos? I think that to be a possible > source > >>of heat, don't know of a source or cost though. > >>Jim Stone > >>HR II >


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    Time: 01:29:04 PM PST US
    From: "Norman" <nhunger@sprint.ca>
    Subject: Re: Rear Cockpit Heat
    --> RV8-List message posted by: "Norman" <nhunger@sprint.ca> > I have been toying with the idea of "liberating" a complete heating > system from a mini van (so I can have back seat heat) and installing > that in the -8. The biggest potential problem I see with that is > weight. Do you want to install the heater core in the rear? To save some weight consider using some form of adapters to downsize the heater lines to a smaller hose. The full size ones in a car weight a fair bit when full of fluid. Norman Hunger RV6A Delta BC Do not archive


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    Time: 06:01:49 PM PST US
    From: "richard martin" <martin333@athenet.net>
    Subject: Rv 8 cockpit heat - rear
    --> RV8-List message posted by: "richard martin" <martin333@athenet.net> Listers, I have been reading all of the various posts recently regarding heat for the RV8 (in particular the rear seat) in the winter time. I do not claim to be an expert on this subject, however, I do live in Wisconsin, I do fly year around, and it is cold here in the winter time average temps are 32 degrees to -10 degrees. I am now on my fourth winter and have 640 hours, of which 200 plus have been in the winter. I learned immediately that one heat muff was insufficient, so I immediately install a second 3 year ago. This helped, but it still was not comfortable. I then realized that the problem was not from insufficient heat source, but more from a substantial infiltration of cool air from the rear of the canopy. When I built my airplane, I spent a lot of time insuring that the seal of the sliding canopy fit like a glove. Needless to say, that first winter I was most unhappy when I still got cold in the winter. It seems that when the temperature goes below 32 degrees, the canopy shrinks approximately 3/32 inch in length which in turn causes the canopy to raise up at the rear approximately 1/8 to 5/32 inches. Since their is a high pressure area at the rear of the airplane on the RV8 the results were predictable. That is, a strong inflow of fresh cold air and no amount of hot air from the twin heat sources could overcome. After trying various methods of additional sealing of the canopy, I finally tried a horseshoe shaped piece of upholstery foam 2 inches thick, appropriately shaped with my wifes electric kitchen knife to fit the contour of the fuselage/canopy juncture. She sewed a cloth cover for it, and I attached it with velcrow so that it could be easily installed and removed. I is now going on the third year and still functions well. The rear seat is still not as toasty as the front, however, it is comfortable. I hope that this is of some help to all of you, expecially those who still have not flown their RV8s in the winter.


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    Time: 06:04:24 PM PST US
    From: "richard martin" <martin333@athenet.net>
    Subject: Rv 8 cockpit heat - rear
    --> RV8-List message posted by: "richard martin" <martin333@athenet.net> Listers, I have been reading all of the various posts recently regarding heat for the RV8 (in particular the rear seat) in the winter time. I do not claim to be an expert on this subject, however, I do live in Wisconsin, I do fly year around, and it is cold here in the winter time average temps are 32 degrees to -10 degrees. I am now on my fourth winter and have 640 hours, of which 200 plus have been in the winter. I learned immediately that one heat muff was insufficient, so I immediately install a second 3 year ago. This helped, but it still was not comfortable. I then realized that the problem was not from insufficient heat source, but more from a substantial infiltration of cool air from the rear of the canopy. When I built my airplane, I spent a lot of time insuring that the seal of the sliding canopy fit like a glove. Needless to say, that first winter I was most unhappy when I still got cold in the winter. It seems that when the temperature goes below 32 degrees, the canopy shrinks approximately 3/32 inch in length which in turn causes the canopy to raise up at the rear approximately 1/8 to 5/32 inches. Since their is a high pressure area at the rear of the airplane on the RV8 the results were predictable. That is, a strong inflow of fresh cold air and no amount of hot air from the twin heat sources could overcome. After trying various methods of additional sealing of the canopy, I finally tried a horseshoe shaped piece of upholstery foam 2 inches thick, appropriately shaped with my wifes electric kitchen knife to fit the contour of the fuselage/canopy juncture. She sewed a cloth cover for it, and I attached it with velcrow so that it could be easily installed and removed. I is now going on the third year and still functions well. The rear seat is still not as toasty as the front, however, it is comfortable. I hope that this is of some help to all of you, expecially those who still have not flown their RV8s in the winter.




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