RV8-List Digest Archive

Thu 01/16/03


Total Messages Posted: 7



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:34 AM - Gascolator (Al Grajek)
     2. 07:02 AM - Re: Re: Backyard Runway (Bert Penney)
     3. 07:11 AM - Re: Gascolator (Scott Bilinski)
     4. 09:01 AM - Re: Gascolator (Terry Watson)
     5. 09:48 AM - Re: Voltage Drop (Jim Combs)
     6. 02:13 PM - Re: Gascolator (Al Grajek)
     7. 07:37 PM - Gascolator  (Rv6238@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:34:31 AM PST US
    From: "Al Grajek" <algrajek@msn.com>
    vansairforce@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Gascolator
    --> RV8-List message posted by: "Al Grajek" <algrajek@msn.com> Not to start anything,But.... With the low wing setup as in the RVs,with sumps in the wing, what is your view on whether or not to install a gascolator in the RV8? Thanks Al Grajek RV8 Fuselage


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    Time: 07:02:30 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Backyard Runway
    From: "Bert Penney" <van@entechnos.com>
    --> RV8-List message posted by: "Bert Penney" <van@entechnos.com> The noise is something that I have been concerned about. The approach path to the runway would not fly over any buildings, but there are houses to each side of the path. I don't have an answer yet, but I want to take steps to tone down the noise. My first thought was that, what ever engine I eventually decide on, it should be turbo'd. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how a person could make the plane quieter? How about anyone from Europe? I understand that the noise regulations there are quite a bit more stringent than they are here. Is that true? If so, what steps do you take to keep the noise down? I live on the prairies and, as a redneck, am qualified to put stacks on my plane, but I think they might be a bit draggy :-) Bert -----Original Message----- From: Pete Cowper [mailto:pcowper@webtv.net] Subject: RV8-List: Re: Backyard Runway --> RV8-List message posted by: pcowper@webtv.net (Pete Cowper) >Are there neighbors living there that don't mind 360 straight pipe cubes roaring over at 20'AGL? Come on, no challenge is too difficult for homebuilders. But . . . after Bert buys up at least a 1,500 foot strip of adjoining property from his neighbors for a minimal landing strip . . . he will then find himself in the position of municipal airports who must keep puchasing complaining neighbor's properties or sound proofing their homes. If buying up the neighborhood is still cheaper than paying a few decades of hanger rent at the local airport, it's a thought. Otherwise, aren't there some helicopter kits out there? Pete Cowper Lawyer-Pilots Bar Association member RV-8 #81139 N666PC reserved


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    Time: 07:11:41 AM PST US
    From: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@qcpi.com>
    Subject: Re: Gascolator
    --> RV8-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@qcpi.com> For the reasons you gave, talking with Van's, and Airflow Performance. I did not install mine. At 09:19 AM 1/16/03 -0500, you wrote: >--> RV8-List message posted by: "Al Grajek" <algrajek@msn.com> > > >Not to start anything,But.... >With the low wing setup as in the RVs,with sumps in the wing, what is your >view on whether or not to install a gascolator in the RV8? >Thanks >Al Grajek >RV8 Fuselage > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 8220 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190


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    Time: 09:01:20 AM PST US
    From: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
    Subject: Gascolator
    --> RV8-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com> Al, I got 816 hits on "gascolator" on the Matronics RV list. There has been a lot of discussion about it. Terry RV-8A finish Seattle Not to start anything,But.... With the low wing setup as in the RVs,with sumps in the wing, what is your view on whether or not to install a gascolator in the RV8? Thanks Al Grajek RV8 Fuselage


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    Time: 09:48:11 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
    Subject: RE: Voltage Drop
    --> RV8-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com> Mark, In the case of your fictional circuit, the current is a constant 3 amps (12 volts / 4 ohms). The power consumption is 36 watts (I 2 R). If you were to measure the voltage drop cross the 3 ohm load you would find 9 volts across that device, with the remaining 3 volts dropped across the 1 ohm load. Usually "voltage drop" is discussed (and becomes an issue) when a connection must be made between two wires. Wired connections are never ideal and some resistance will be present. This resistance becomes a heater (I 2 R) and can further deteriorate a bad connection. This causes a loss in delivered voltage to the circuits or devices needing the power. High currents are typically a bad thing for connections. The other gotcha is wire size. Thinking about the amps = fluid flow model, small wire = small pipe = high resistance of wire. The result is voltage loss (Heating of the wire) = smoking wire. This is the basis of fuses. JimC Waiting for Wings Do not Archive


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    Time: 02:13:16 PM PST US
    From: "Al Grajek" <algrajek@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Gascolator
    --> RV8-List message posted by: "Al Grajek" <algrajek@msn.com> Thanks a lot,Scott! Al ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Bilinski Subject: Re: RV8-List: Gascolator --> RV8-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@qcpi.com> For the reasons you gave, talking with Van's, and Airflow Performance. I did not install mine. At 09:19 AM 1/16/03 -0500, you wrote: >--> RV8-List message posted by: "Al Grajek" <algrajek@msn.com> > > >Not to start anything,But.... >With the low wing setup as in the RVs,with sumps in the wing, what is your >view on whether or not to install a gascolator in the RV8? >Thanks >Al Grajek >RV8 Fuselage > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 8220 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190


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    Time: 07:37:34 PM PST US
    From: Rv6238@aol.com
    Subject: Gascolator
    --> RV8-List message posted by: Rv6238@aol.com I am not installing one either. I will be watching the AP filter carefully during early engine runs and taxi testing. Tanks may have metal chips and proseal debris even after careful cleaning. Keeping tanks full cuts down on water also. Bill, RV6 slowbuild Reisterstown MD




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