RV8-List Digest Archive

Mon 02/17/03


Total Messages Posted: 8



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 01:44 PM - Elevator HELP! (Stein Bruch)
     2. 02:26 PM - Re: Elevator HELP! (Jack Textor)
     3. 02:57 PM - Re: Elevator HELP! (Jim Bean)
     4. 04:28 PM - Re: Elevator HELP! (Bill Marvel)
     5. 05:36 PM - Re: Elevator HELP! (Lloyd)
     6. 06:51 PM - Conduit (Jim Adams)
     7. 06:54 PM - Re: Elevator HELP! (Wayne R. Couture)
     8. 08:45 PM - Re: Conduit (Bill Marvel)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:44:31 PM PST US
    From: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
    "Rv6-List" <rv6-list@matronics.com>
    Subject: Elevator HELP!
    --> RV8-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com> Hi Guys, Looking for any GOOD suggestions. Here's the problem... Just finished my RV7 tail kit and was installing the rod end bearings for the right elevator, when to my surprise I found one of the nutplates (center one on the right elevator) has NO threads in it!! Please don't tell me I should have checked them - I already heard that...from Van's! Who'd a thunk to check those things. After building 3 tail kits, and 1 flying RV6, I've never seen a nutplate with no threads. Anyway, Van's is still searching for some other answer short of dissasembling the elevator. If that's the case I'll just build another one from scratch. If you have any bright ideas, feel free to let me know! Just my typical luck, if there is one nutplate in every 2 million that doesn't get threaded, I'll end up with it! Cheers, Stein Bruch RV6/N664SB 90+hrs RV7/N174SB Trying to finish the tail!


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    Time: 02:26:20 PM PST US
    From: "Jack Textor" <jack@personnelincorporated.com>
    Subject: Elevator HELP!
    --> RV8-List message posted by: "Jack Textor" <jack@personnelincorporated.com> Boy Stein, that sucks, sorry. You could do an small access plate on the underside to get at it. Jack Textor RV8 DSM --> RV8-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com> Hi Guys, Looking for any GOOD suggestions. Here's the problem... Just finished my RV7 tail kit and was installing the rod end bearings for the right elevator, when to my surprise I found one of the nutplates (center one on the right elevator) has NO threads in it!! Please don't tell me I should have checked them - I already heard that...from Van's! Who'd a thunk to check those things. After building 3 tail kits, and 1 flying RV6, I've never seen a nutplate with no threads. Anyway, Van's is still searching for some other answer short of dissasembling the elevator. If that's the case I'll just build another one from scratch. If you have any bright ideas, feel free to let me know! Just my typical luck, if there is one nutplate in every 2 million that doesn't get threaded, I'll end up with it! Cheers, Stein Bruch RV6/N664SB 90+hrs RV7/N174SB Trying to finish the tail!


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    Time: 02:57:10 PM PST US
    From: Jim Bean <jim-bean@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Elevator HELP!
    --> RV8-List message posted by: Jim Bean <jim-bean@att.net> Why don't you tap it. I wouldn't be self locking but you could use a head drilled bolt and safety wire it. Jim Bean Stein Bruch wrote: > --> RV8-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com> > > Hi Guys, > > Looking for any GOOD suggestions. Here's the problem... > > Just finished my RV7 tail kit and was installing the rod end bearings for > the right elevator, when to my surprise I found one of the nutplates (center > one on the right elevator) has NO threads in it!! > > Please don't tell me I should have checked them - I already heard > that...from Van's! Who'd a thunk to check those things. After building 3 > tail kits, and 1 flying RV6, I've never seen a nutplate with no threads. > Anyway, Van's is still searching for some other answer short of > dissasembling the elevator. If that's the case I'll just build another one > from scratch. > > If you have any bright ideas, feel free to let me know! > > Just my typical luck, if there is one nutplate in every 2 million that > doesn't get threaded, I'll end up with it! > > Cheers, > Stein Bruch > RV6/N664SB 90+hrs > RV7/N174SB Trying to finish the tail! > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:28:15 PM PST US
    From: Bill Marvel <bmarvel@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Elevator HELP!
    --> RV8-List message posted by: Bill Marvel <bmarvel@cox.net> My thought, too. In fact, isn't there a check nut on the rod end bearing that locks it into place? Furthermore, how would it rotate anyway with an AN3 bolt going through it? I suspect the internal threads are cut with some sort of tap in manufacturing, so this seems workable to me. Bill Marvel Jim Bean wrote: > --> RV8-List message posted by: Jim Bean <jim-bean@att.net> > > Why don't you tap it. I wouldn't be self locking but you could use a > head drilled bolt and safety wire it. > Jim Bean > > Stein Bruch wrote: > > > --> RV8-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com> > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > Looking for any GOOD suggestions. Here's the problem... > > > > Just finished my RV7 tail kit and was installing the rod end bearings for > > the right elevator, when to my surprise I found one of the nutplates (center > > one on the right elevator) has NO threads in it!! > > > > Please don't tell me I should have checked them - I already heard > > that...from Van's! Who'd a thunk to check those things. After building 3 > > tail kits, and 1 flying RV6, I've never seen a nutplate with no threads. > > Anyway, Van's is still searching for some other answer short of > > dissasembling the elevator. If that's the case I'll just build another one > > from scratch. > > > > If you have any bright ideas, feel free to let me know! > > > > Just my typical luck, if there is one nutplate in every 2 million that > > doesn't get threaded, I'll end up with it! > > > > Cheers, > > Stein Bruch > > RV6/N664SB 90+hrs > > RV7/N174SB Trying to finish the tail! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Bill Marvel Home/office 310 832 7617 P.O. Box 784 Cell 310 293 2013 San Pedro, CA 90733 Fax 310 832 5334 One good deed beats 100 good intentions...


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    Time: 05:36:05 PM PST US
    From: Lloyd <tlloyd6250@comcast.net>
    Subject: Elevator HELP!
    --> RV8-List message posted by: Lloyd <tlloyd6250@comcast.net> Great Idea! -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim Bean Subject: Re: RV8-List: Elevator HELP! --> RV8-List message posted by: Jim Bean <jim-bean@att.net> Why don't you tap it. I wouldn't be self locking but you could use a head drilled bolt and safety wire it. Jim Bean Stein Bruch wrote: > --> RV8-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com> > > Hi Guys, > > Looking for any GOOD suggestions. Here's the problem... > > Just finished my RV7 tail kit and was installing the rod end bearings for > the right elevator, when to my surprise I found one of the nutplates (center > one on the right elevator) has NO threads in it!! > > Please don't tell me I should have checked them - I already heard > that...from Van's! Who'd a thunk to check those things. After building 3 > tail kits, and 1 flying RV6, I've never seen a nutplate with no threads. > Anyway, Van's is still searching for some other answer short of > dissasembling the elevator. If that's the case I'll just build another one > from scratch. > > If you have any bright ideas, feel free to let me know! > > Just my typical luck, if there is one nutplate in every 2 million that > doesn't get threaded, I'll end up with it! > > Cheers, > Stein Bruch > RV6/N664SB 90+hrs > RV7/N174SB Trying to finish the tail! > >


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    Time: 06:51:12 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Adams" <jimmiea@essex1.com>
    Subject: Conduit
    --> RV8-List message posted by: "Jim Adams" <jimmiea@essex1.com> I am building an RV-8A and am just finishing deburring the wing ribs. I need to drill holes to run the conduit for the wing tip lights. Anyone out there who could tell me what conduit worked the best and the location they used to run it throught the W-711-R/L inboard wing ribs? Jim Adams RV-8A wing


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    Time: 06:54:36 PM PST US
    From: "Wayne R. Couture" <commando@cox-internet.com>
    Subject: Re: Elevator HELP!
    --> RV8-List message posted by: "Wayne R. Couture" <commando@cox-internet.com> Just tap it! do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com> <rv7-list@matronics.com>; "Rv6-List" <rv6-list@matronics.com> Subject: RV8-List: Elevator HELP! > --> RV8-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com> > > Hi Guys, > > Looking for any GOOD suggestions. Here's the problem... > > Just finished my RV7 tail kit and was installing the rod end bearings for > the right elevator, when to my surprise I found one of the nutplates (center > one on the right elevator) has NO threads in it!! > > Please don't tell me I should have checked them - I already heard > that...from Van's! Who'd a thunk to check those things. After building 3 > tail kits, and 1 flying RV6, I've never seen a nutplate with no threads. > Anyway, Van's is still searching for some other answer short of > dissasembling the elevator. If that's the case I'll just build another one > from scratch. > > If you have any bright ideas, feel free to let me know! > > Just my typical luck, if there is one nutplate in every 2 million that > doesn't get threaded, I'll end up with it! > > Cheers, > Stein Bruch > RV6/N664SB 90+hrs > RV7/N174SB Trying to finish the tail! > >


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    Time: 08:45:48 PM PST US
    From: Bill Marvel <bmarvel@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Conduit
    --> RV8-List message posted by: Bill Marvel <bmarvel@cox.net> Jim: I had a QB -8A and just got the black conduit Van sells. I routed it through the rib lightening holes just forward of the rear spar. You don't need to drill anything other than maybe small holes for tie wraps to keep it from bouncing around. I ran wires through the conduit out to the end for nav lights, landing light in each wing and strobes and one more for pitot heat in the left wing. The existing tooling holes near the front spar were about right for plastic grommets I used to run coax out there for marker beacon and nav/gs antennas in one wing tip and the com 2 antenna in the other. Bill Marvel Jim Adams wrote: > --> RV8-List message posted by: "Jim Adams" <jimmiea@essex1.com> > > I am building an RV-8A and am just finishing deburring the wing ribs. I need to drill holes to run the conduit for the wing tip lights. Anyone out there who could tell me what conduit worked the best and the location they used to run it throught the W-711-R/L inboard wing ribs? > > Jim Adams > RV-8A wing > -- Bill Marvel Home/office 310 832 7617 P.O. Box 784 Cell 310 293 2013 San Pedro, CA 90733 Fax 310 832 5334 One good deed beats 100 good intentions...




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