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1. 05:11 AM - Re: RV8-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 02/19/03 (Dougpsr@aol.com)
2. 05:43 AM - Grove Aircraft RV-8 Airfoiled Lightweight Gear (Stephen J. Soule)
3. 06:17 AM - Re: Grove Aircraft RV-8 Airfoiled Lightweight Gear (N188rv@aol.com)
4. 07:38 AM - Grove Airfoiled Installation Report #1 (Rob Miller)
5. 11:53 AM - RV8a (Lorin Frank)
6. 12:40 PM - Re: RV8a (Scott Brumbelow)
7. 01:29 PM - Re: RV8a (Bill Dube)
8. 05:17 PM - Re: RV8a (Lenleg@aol.com)
9. 07:32 PM - Aero Sport Power IO-360-B1B Engine (Roger Crandell)
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| Subject: | Re: RV8-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 02/19/03 |
--> RV8-List message posted by: Dougpsr@aol.com
Thanks Stan. I am not interested in an A model. Going back to tail draggers.
Doug
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| Subject: | Grove Aircraft RV-8 Airfoiled Lightweight Gear |
--> RV8-List message posted by: "Stephen J. Soule" <SSoule@pfclaw.com>
Has anyone tried the Grove Aircraft RV-8 Airfoiled Lightweight Gear on a
flying RV-8? I wondered how they compared to stock in terms of stiffness and
ground handling.
Stephen Soule
Huntington, Vermont
RV-6A N227RV flying
RV-8 N222SZ under construction
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Grove Aircraft RV-8 Airfoiled Lightweight Gear
Has anyone tried the Grove Aircraft RV-8 Airfoiled Lightweight Gear on a flying
RV-8? I wondered how they compared to stock in terms of stiffness and ground
handling.
Stephen Soule
Huntington, Vermont
RV-6A N227RV flying
RV-8 N222SZ under construction
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| Subject: | Re: Grove Aircraft RV-8 Airfoiled Lightweight Gear |
--> RV8-List message posted by: N188rv@aol.com
I used the RV-4 gear on my RV-8. Picture attached. 80 hours with no
problems so far.
Stan
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| Subject: | Grove Airfoiled Installation Report #1 |
--> RV8-List message posted by: Rob Miller <rmill2000@yahoo.com>
Hi Listers:
I am currently retrofitting a set of Grove Airfoiled Gear Legs to my -8
"Bad Cat." Observations:
1. The gear is beautifully crafted. They are more "art" than simply
aircraft parts--like a sculpture. All included hardware is top notch,
also. I also enjoyed doing business with this company.
2. We began the installation two weeks ago. I had three friends helping
who all insisted on resting the forward fuselage/FW junction on a 2 X 12
suspended on saw horses. I had my doubts and should have been more
assertive but wasn't, so when the fuse bottom wrinkled I wasn't
surprised--and I take the blame. Two full days and $100 worth of parts and
pro seal later, it looks good as new. DON'T DO THIS!!!
3. Using a combination of a Hale gear jack, engine hoist (just to
stabilize and not to lift entire airframe), and a saw horse under the
spar, we installed the new legs in 2 days. Removing and installing the
two outboard bolts inside the gear towers was a real test of patience and
manual dexterity. (In a completed plane these towers are full of wires,
cables, and fuel tubing, and the access holes are small.)
4. Several different brake line fitting orientation and fitting types
needed to be used in order for everything to fit. The fuel tank vents
needed to be relocated 1.25" farther inboard.
5. Retrofitting the Grove gear IS a big job. It would have been better
to return Vans stock gear for a credit during the construction process
putting the Grove's on from the get go.
I should have the plane flying again this weekend and will be post flight
speed and climb comparison data next week.
Rob Miller
-8 N262RM "Bad Cat" 47 hours
http://taxes.yahoo.com/
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--> RV8-List message posted by: "Lorin Frank" <llfrank@earthlink.net>
Just wanted to let RV8a folks know of a potential problem. We had 90
hours on our RV8a when the nose gear collapsed on landing. We had maybe 200
landings on a grass field. The NTSB found that the nose gear was at fault,
no pilot error or poor field conditions. This is the same nose gear used
for the RV6a but the RV8a has a lot more weight up front. Van's is aware of
this problem but has no fix for it. Maybe an after market parts builder
will come up with something. Our insurance company is paying $16,000 to fix
this plane so we are keeping it off grass or rough fields until a stronger
nose gear is made available. Fly well.
--- Lorin Frank
--- llfrank@earthlink.net
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--> RV8-List message posted by: Scott Brumbelow <csbrumbelow@fedex.com>
Not good news. A couple of questions:
1) Was it the gear leg itself, or the mount where the gear leg is inserted,
or both?
2) Was yours an isolated incident, or are there more cases like this out
there that Van's knows about but just doesn't have a "fix" for?
3) Is your/the NTSB's/Vans' theory that the less than smooth grass strip
landings at least contributed to the premature failure - i.e., is the theory
from them or Vans that operation on smooth (paved) strips will [help] keep this
from happening?
4) I am assuming from the tone of your message that all landings you have
had have been pretty much "normal" (i.e., no unusually hard landings, none on
the nose-gear first, etc.).
5) What engine do you have? When you say that the -8A has a lot more weight
up front than the -6A, this has to be driven by the engine. I am not sure what
people are typically putting on -6's (160 horse??) - but I have a 180 horse on
my -8A.
Thanks!
Scott in MEM
RV-8A
Electrical and Cowling to go...
Lorin Frank wrote:
> --> RV8-List message posted by: "Lorin Frank" <llfrank@earthlink.net>
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> Just wanted to let RV8a folks know of a potential problem. We had 90
> hours on our RV8a when the nose gear collapsed on landing. We had maybe 200
> landings on a grass field. The NTSB found that the nose gear was at fault,
> no pilot error or poor field conditions. This is the same nose gear used
> for the RV6a but the RV8a has a lot more weight up front. Van's is aware of
> this problem but has no fix for it. Maybe an after market parts builder
> will come up with something. Our insurance company is paying $16,000 to fix
> this plane so we are keeping it off grass or rough fields until a stronger
> nose gear is made available. Fly well.
>
> --- Lorin Frank
> --- llfrank@earthlink.net
>
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--> RV8-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@boulder.nist.gov>
>
> 2) Was yours an isolated incident, or are there more cases like this out
>there that Van's knows about but just doesn't have a "fix" for?
I've read a few NTSB reports of nose gear buckling on RVs. This is
not the only incident. On the other hand, there are at least as many NTSB
reports on ground loops for the RV tail draggers.
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--> RV8-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
I did my transition training with Mike Seager in the factory 6A. Mike
probably has more tricycle RV time than anyone. He teaches to be careful
with the nose gear but not that it is a problem area.
Mike has you pull the nose off the runway after putting in power on the
takeoff and let the airplane fly off. On landing he teaches to hold the
nosegear off the runway as long as possible.
In light of the latest news ...this seems to be good advice ... whether there
is a gear problem or not.
Len Leggette RV-8A
N901LL
Greensboro, N.C.
56 hours !!
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| Subject: | Aero Sport Power IO-360-B1B Engine |
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--> RV8-List message posted by: Roger Crandell <rwc@swcp.com>
Is anyone flying an Aero Sport Power IO-360-B1B Engine with LASAR mags
and Airflow Performance Fuel Injection with a Hartzell constant speed
prop?
Please contact me if you are.
Thanks
Roger Crandell
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