---------------------------------------------------------- RV8-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 03/25/03: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:31 AM - Grove Aero Gear Climb and Speed Data--Final Report (Rob Miller) 2. 06:25 PM - Re: Tool Sets (MWhites676@aol.com) 3. 06:53 PM - Re: Tool Sets (Tony Johnson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:31:04 AM PST US From: Rob Miller Subject: RV8-List: Grove Aero Gear Climb and Speed Data--Final Report --> RV8-List message posted by: Rob Miller Hi guys For those of you following this thread. I have been progressively adding Grove gear to my O-360/Hartzell powered RV-8. I was interested in how each additional component added (or subtracted) from speed and climb performance. Speed numbers were obtained by GPS with full throttle (about 19.4" MAP), EGT 1300, at 11,500 MSL--(This is about 65% power). Weight OAT Climb Rate to 11K Speed MPH Van's Standard Gear 1525 55F 1025 184 plain-no fairings/pants Grove Streamlined Gear 1514 43F 1242 185 plain--no fairings/pants Grove w/intersection 1515 50F 1252 187 fairings, access covers, but NO wheel pants. Grove w/all fairings and 1518 60F 1312 195 wheel pants **Note: Stall speed (clean) was reduced by 7 knots with the addition of intersection fairings. See www.RV-8.com for the theory behind this -8 phenomenon. Rob Miller -8 N262RM "Bad Cat" 52 hours http://platinum.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:25:37 PM PST US From: MWhites676@aol.com Subject: Re: RV8-List: Tool Sets --> RV8-List message posted by: MWhites676@aol.com Avery and Cleaveland both have good tools. As for rivet guns, get the 3X. You can adjust the air pressure down for the -3 rivets, and turn the pressure up some for the -4 rivets. The 2X gun hits fast and light and must be held on the rivet longer to make the shop head. The slower hitting 3X gun is more controllable, forms the shop head quicker, and will handle all your riveting needs. If you are bound and determined to buy a 2X gun, I have a brand new one I used a few times that I will sell you real cheap! After using a 3X gun, I never touch the 2X gun anymore. Mike Whitescarver RV-8A - Wings ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:53:12 PM PST US From: "Tony Johnson" Subject: Re: RV8-List: Tool Sets --> RV8-List message posted by: "Tony Johnson" I would also appreciate some advice regarding air tools. I purchased a kit that is partially completed. Only the finishing kit and some minor fuselage work remains. I just got home from Lowes where I purchased a Porter Cable 25 gallon, 6 hp compressor. I am wondering what tools I will need to buy in order to finish my project. I also bought a cheap combination pack of air tools, including a cut off tool that turns 2200 rpm. 1. Would I be better off buying a 3x rivet gun? (If the 2x would work well, Mike may have a buyer for his "real cheap" used gun :) 2. Would the cheap, 2200 rpm cut off tool be sufficient? 3. Is my new air compressor sufficient? It is still in the box and I can return it. The input of you experienced rivet pounders would be helpful. Tony Johnson RV8A Orlando Finishing ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: RV8-List: Tool Sets > --> RV8-List message posted by: MWhites676@aol.com > > Avery and Cleaveland both have good tools. As for rivet guns, get the 3X. > You can adjust the air pressure down for the -3 rivets, and turn the pressure > up some for the -4 rivets. The 2X gun hits fast and light and must be held > on the rivet longer to make the shop head. The slower hitting 3X gun is more > controllable, forms the shop head quicker, and will handle all your riveting > needs. > If you are bound and determined to buy a 2X gun, I have a brand new one I > used a few times that I will sell you real cheap! After using a 3X gun, I > never touch the 2X gun anymore. > > Mike Whitescarver > RV-8A - Wings > >