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1. 05:06 AM - fairings (fwd) (romeo.victor@t-online.de)
2. 06:33 AM - Re: Re: RV-List: Microair 760 VHF users (LitewoodsJoinery@aol.com)
3. 07:30 AM - Re: fairings (fwd) (Jolly)
4. 07:52 AM - Re: fairings (fwd) (Stephen J. Soule)
5. 09:11 AM - Re: Re: RV-List: Microair 760 VHF users (Terry Watson)
6. 10:49 AM - Re: new travel opportunities opening up (David and Michele)
7. 11:41 AM - Re: Re: RV-List: Microair 760 VHF users (Jeffrey)
8. 11:57 AM - Re: Re: RV-List: Microair 760 VHF users (Rick Bowen)
9. 02:57 PM - Propeller Info (Lloyd)
10. 03:50 PM - Re: Propeller Info (Scott Bilinski)
11. 04:04 PM - Re: Propeller Info (Scott Brumbelow)
12. 04:12 PM - IO-360C1-C6 (Chris Stone)
13. 04:35 PM - Re: IO-360C1-C6 (MSices)
14. 04:35 PM - Re: Propeller Info (Randy Lervold)
15. 05:54 PM - Re: Propeller Info (Lloyd)
16. 06:45 PM - Re: Propeller Info (Lloyd)
17. 06:48 PM - Re: Propeller Info (Lloyd)
18. 06:51 PM - Re: Propeller Info (RICKRV6@aol.com)
19. 09:45 PM - Tank Construction & Princeton Sender (PAUL ANTOINETTE)
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--> RV8-List message posted by: romeo.victor@t-online.de
---Ursprngliche Nachricht---
From: <0812248383-0001@T-Online.de>
Subject: fairings
Dear RV builders,
I am airborne with my 8 since 15.04.2003. A couple of things have to be completed.
For example all the plastic covers and fairings. I tried to fabricate gear
leg fairings by myself two times, and, failed. This is not my work. Is there
anybody who has a form, which he or she can borrow me to produce these items?
I would pay for the shipping costs to Europe and back.
Thanks indeed
Yours sincerely
--
RV8 flying
Stephan Servatius
Untere Hauptstr. 3
85461 Bockhorn
Germany
Tel. +49 (0) 8122 48383
Fax +49 (0) 8122 902188
Mobil +49 (0) 179 105 9749
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Stephan Servatius
Untere Hauptstr. 3
85461 Bockhorn
Germany
Tel. +49 (0) 8122 48383
Fax +49 (0) 8122 902188
Mobil +49 (0) 179 105 9749
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| Subject: | Re: RV-List: Microair 760 VHF users |
--> RV8-List message posted by: LitewoodsJoinery@aol.com
Hi Rick.
I have had my microair for some time,But unfortunately my really weak point
is wiring.I have spent hours trying to hook it up,but am still having
problems.
Rick is here any chance you or anyone out there can advise me ,or perhaps fax
me a wiring diagram that someone with my limited electronice experience could
understand.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
PS I will be using a separate intercom,but do want to connect the push to
talk and frequency scroll buttons.
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: fairings (fwd) |
--> RV8-List message posted by: "Jolly" <jollyd@ipns.com>
you are not alone...rocket makes fairings that fit...almost, but the
directions are a bit confusing...at least to me...maybe if enough of us ask
Van's REAL nice they will make some decent fairings for us..I, too would
happily pay for some on my RV8A....ARE there any guys/gals out there in
Van"s land..who love to work with fiberglass?....slightly perplexed in
aurora,oregon
----- Original Message -----
From: <romeo.victor@t-online.de>
Subject: RV8-List: fairings (fwd)
> --> RV8-List message posted by: romeo.victor@t-online.de
>
>
> ---Ursprngliche Nachricht---
> From: <0812248383-0001@T-Online.de>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: fairings
>
> Dear RV builders,
>
> I am airborne with my 8 since 15.04.2003. A couple of things have to be
completed. For example all the plastic covers and fairings. I tried to
fabricate gear leg fairings by myself two times, and, failed. This is not my
work. Is there anybody who has a form, which he or she can borrow me to
produce these items? I would pay for the shipping costs to Europe and back.
>
> Thanks indeed
>
> Yours sincerely
> --
>
> RV8 flying
> Stephan Servatius
> Untere Hauptstr. 3
> 85461 Bockhorn
> Germany
>
> Tel. +49 (0) 8122 48383
> Fax +49 (0) 8122 902188
> Mobil +49 (0) 179 105 9749
> ------
>
> --
>
>
> Stephan Servatius
> Untere Hauptstr. 3
> 85461 Bockhorn
> Germany
> Tel. +49 (0) 8122 48383
> Fax +49 (0) 8122 902188
> Mobil +49 (0) 179 105 9749
>
>
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--> RV8-List message posted by: "Stephen J. Soule" <SSoule@pfclaw.com>
I bought Team Rocket fairings for my RV-6A and they fit perfectly. I am
building a RV-8 and plan to use the Grove faired aluminum gear legs so I
will not have to mess with fiberglass as much. I would welcome news of any
supplier of intersection fairings.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Jolly [mailto:jollyd@ipns.com]
Subject: Re: RV8-List: fairings (fwd)
--> RV8-List message posted by: "Jolly" <jollyd@ipns.com>
you are not alone...rocket makes fairings that fit...almost, but the
directions are a bit confusing...at least to me...maybe if enough of us ask
Van's REAL nice they will make some decent fairings for us..I, too would
happily pay for some on my RV8A....ARE there any guys/gals out there in
Van"s land..who love to work with fiberglass?....slightly perplexed in
aurora,oregon
----- Original Message -----
From: <romeo.victor@t-online.de>
Subject: RV8-List: fairings (fwd)
> --> RV8-List message posted by: romeo.victor@t-online.de
>
>
> ---Ursprngliche Nachricht---
> From: <0812248383-0001@T-Online.de>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: fairings
>
> Dear RV builders,
>
> I am airborne with my 8 since 15.04.2003. A couple of things have to
> be
completed. For example all the plastic covers and fairings. I tried to
fabricate gear leg fairings by myself two times, and, failed. This is not my
work. Is there anybody who has a form, which he or she can borrow me to
produce these items? I would pay for the shipping costs to Europe and back.
>
> Thanks indeed
>
> Yours sincerely
> --
>
> RV8 flying
> Stephan Servatius
> Untere Hauptstr. 3
> 85461 Bockhorn
> Germany
>
> Tel. +49 (0) 8122 48383
> Fax +49 (0) 8122 902188
> Mobil +49 (0) 179 105 9749
> ------
>
> --
>
>
> Stephan Servatius
> Untere Hauptstr. 3
> 85461 Bockhorn
> Germany
> Tel. +49 (0) 8122 48383
> Fax +49 (0) 8122 902188
> Mobil +49 (0) 179 105 9749
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-List: Microair 760 VHF users |
--> RV8-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
Mike,
Bob Nuckolls (bob.nuckolls@cox.net) who wrote The Aeroelectric Connection
about wiring homebuilt airplanes and answers questions on the Matronics
aerolectric list used to sell the Microair radio along with a wiring harness
for it. He wrote an installation manual to go with it. I just looked over
the articles on his website (aeroelectric.com) and didn't see it, but Bob is
very knowledgeable and responsive to questions.
He does list an article about hooking a stereo music source into the
Microair's monaural intercom.
Terry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
LitewoodsJoinery@aol.com
Subject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV-List: Microair 760 VHF users
--> RV8-List message posted by: LitewoodsJoinery@aol.com
Hi Rick.
I have had my microair for some time,But unfortunately my really weak point
is wiring.I have spent hours trying to hook it up,but am still having
problems.
Rick is here any chance you or anyone out there can advise me ,or perhaps
fax
me a wiring diagram that someone with my limited electronice experience
could
understand.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
PS I will be using a separate intercom,but do want to connect the push to
talk and frequency scroll buttons.
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: new travel opportunities opening up |
--> RV8-List message posted by: "David and Michele" <wander@echoweb.net>
My wife and I would like to be involved in a flight to Russia if we
could find a group that is going and is willing to have us tag along.
Please consider us if you are planning a trip in the next couple of
years. We will need to have some time to get ready. Thanks, Dave
wander@echoweb.net
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| Subject: | Re: RV-List: Microair 760 VHF users |
--> RV8-List message posted by: "Jeffrey" <dump@relaypoint.net>
I think your looking for the following:
The article is here:
http://www.aeroelectric.com/Catalog/avionics/760vhf.html
And the wiriing harness is here:
http://www.aeroelectric.com/Catalog/avionics/760imB.pdf
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
Subject: RE: RV8-List: Re: RV-List: Microair 760 VHF users
> --> RV8-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
>
> Mike,
>
> Bob Nuckolls (bob.nuckolls@cox.net) who wrote The Aeroelectric Connection
> about wiring homebuilt airplanes and answers questions on the Matronics
> aerolectric list used to sell the Microair radio along with a wiring
harness
> for it. He wrote an installation manual to go with it. I just looked over
> the articles on his website (aeroelectric.com) and didn't see it, but Bob
is
> very knowledgeable and responsive to questions.
>
> He does list an article about hooking a stereo music source into the
> Microair's monaural intercom.
>
> Terry
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> LitewoodsJoinery@aol.com
> To: rv8-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV-List: Microair 760 VHF users
>
> --> RV8-List message posted by: LitewoodsJoinery@aol.com
>
> Hi Rick.
> I have had my microair for some time,But unfortunately my really weak
point
> is wiring.I have spent hours trying to hook it up,but am still having
> problems.
> Rick is here any chance you or anyone out there can advise me ,or perhaps
> fax
> me a wiring diagram that someone with my limited electronice experience
> could
> understand.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> PS I will be using a separate intercom,but do want to connect the push to
> talk and frequency scroll buttons.
>
> Mike
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-List: Microair 760 VHF users |
--> RV8-List message posted by: "Rick Bowen" <rollnloop@hotmail.com>
Hey Mike,
the URL's the guys gave you are good to check out.
I would particularly go for the harness Bob has, wasn't available when I did
my radio install a few years ago.
All I did was lay out the schematics for the Microair, and my intercom unit,
and started wiring...worked great first time around!
I was sitting in my plane IN the workshop where I was finishing it, and was
talking to a buddy flying about 25 miles away!
You will love this little radio!
Rick
>From: "Jeffrey" <dump@relaypoint.net>
>Reply-To: rv8-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv8-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV-List: Microair 760 VHF users
>Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 11:41:54 -0700
>
>--> RV8-List message posted by: "Jeffrey" <dump@relaypoint.net>
>
>I think your looking for the following:
>
>The article is here:
>http://www.aeroelectric.com/Catalog/avionics/760vhf.html
>
>And the wiriing harness is here:
>http://www.aeroelectric.com/Catalog/avionics/760imB.pdf
>
>
>Jeff
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--> RV8-List message posted by: Lloyd <tlloyd6250@comcast.net>
I have an RV8 about 1/2 done with 75% to go. I have ordered an engine that
is an IO360 parallel valve with 10:1 pistons, dual Light Speed Plasma III
ignition and Bendix injection with cold airbox intake system.
My question is about propellers, however. The new Hartzell blended airfoil
performs well but has lots of operational restrictions. One RV8 driver did a
good operational test of the two and three blade Whirl Wind blades and got
nearly identical results. Has anyone done any comparison testing with the MT
or other propellers?
Tom Lloyd N842TL
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| Subject: | Re: Propeller Info |
--> RV8-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
With that heavy engine up front the WW will save you ~30
lbs....................Just remembered with high compression pistons and
elect ign WW will not sell you a prop. FWIW
At 04:56 PM 4/30/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> RV8-List message posted by: Lloyd <tlloyd6250@comcast.net>
>
>
>I have an RV8 about 1/2 done with 75% to go. I have ordered an engine that
>is an IO360 parallel valve with 10:1 pistons, dual Light Speed Plasma III
>ignition and Bendix injection with cold airbox intake system.
>
>My question is about propellers, however. The new Hartzell blended airfoil
>performs well but has lots of operational restrictions. One RV8 driver did a
>good operational test of the two and three blade Whirl Wind blades and got
>nearly identical results. Has anyone done any comparison testing with the MT
>or other propellers?
>
>Tom Lloyd N842TL
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: Propeller Info |
--> RV8-List message posted by: Scott Brumbelow <csbrumbelow@fedex.com>
I am not sure if you are aware, but Hartzell has just introduced a "new" design
that they have been working on in conjunction with Vans. I opted to wait for
this one, and it does not have the operating range limitation. Not sure if that
helps given your particular engine/power set up (my is simply an XP-360 with an
Ellison), but it did remove the restrictions for me.
Scott in MEM
RV-8A
cowling and baffles to go
Lloyd wrote:
> --> RV8-List message posted by: Lloyd <tlloyd6250@comcast.net>
>
> I have an RV8 about 1/2 done with 75% to go. I have ordered an engine that
> is an IO360 parallel valve with 10:1 pistons, dual Light Speed Plasma III
> ignition and Bendix injection with cold airbox intake system.
>
> My question is about propellers, however. The new Hartzell blended airfoil
> performs well but has lots of operational restrictions. One RV8 driver did a
> good operational test of the two and three blade Whirl Wind blades and got
> nearly identical results. Has anyone done any comparison testing with the MT
> or other propellers?
>
> Tom Lloyd N842TL
>
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--> RV8-List message posted by: "Chris Stone" <Chris.Stone@a-dec.com>
Hello Listers...
Has anyone mounted an IO-360Cx i.e. angle valve Lyc on an RV? or more
specifically on an RV-8?
My Lyc. is off a Piper Arrow and will require remounting the throttle
body from the back of the sump/plenum (rear facing) to the front of the
sump/plenum (front facing). This in itself is not a problem. I am
concerned about the extra weight of the engine and the different
baffling required compared with the IO-360A1-B6.
Chris Stone
RV-8 Wings
On the wet side of Oregon
<http://www.a-dec.com/>
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--> RV8-List message posted by: MSices <msices@core.com>
Chris:
I have an IO-360-C1C from an Arrow in my RV-8. I had to buy a forward
facing sump and the induction tubes that go with it (these are hard to find
now I hear - I paid $600 for everything - call the aviation junk yards in
trade-a-plane to find what you need) (I now have a rear facing sump sitting
on the shelf now if anyone needs one).
The weight certainly is not a problem as this angle valve engine is what
Vans put in his prototype RV8. Though, Vans recommends putting the battery
in the back to move the cg rearwards - especially if you have a constant
speed prop to go with. Vans sells a snorkel so that you can use the lower
cowl without the front center hole in it. Vans also sells a 200hp baffle
kits which work very well.
Mike Sices
RV8 - ready to paint
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chris Stone
Subject: RV8-List: IO-360C1-C6
--> RV8-List message posted by: "Chris Stone" <Chris.Stone@a-dec.com>
Hello Listers...
Has anyone mounted an IO-360Cx i.e. angle valve Lyc on an RV? or more
specifically on an RV-8?
My Lyc. is off a Piper Arrow and will require remounting the throttle
body from the back of the sump/plenum (rear facing) to the front of the
sump/plenum (front facing). This in itself is not a problem. I am
concerned about the extra weight of the engine and the different
baffling required compared with the IO-360A1-B6.
Chris Stone
RV-8 Wings
On the wet side of Oregon
<http://www.a-dec.com/>
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| Subject: | Re: Propeller Info |
--> RV8-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@rv-8.com>
> I have an RV8 about 1/2 done with 75% to go. I have ordered an engine that
> is an IO360 parallel valve with 10:1 pistons, dual Light Speed Plasma III
> ignition and Bendix injection with cold airbox intake system.
Sounds like you've got a real hot rod there, you are right to be concerned
about prop durability and compatibility.
> My question is about propellers, however. The new Hartzell blended airfoil
> performs well but has lots of operational restrictions. One RV8 driver did
a
> good operational test of the two and three blade Whirl Wind blades and got
> nearly identical results.
That would be me who did the testing you're referring to, and the story can
be found at www.rv-8.com/Prop.htm. The story however focuses on hard data so
as to be as objective as possible. What is missing to a large extent from my
story are the subjective impressions on the whole thing, so here's one such
personal opinion that I think applies to you: consider the Whirl Wind 200C.
One of the things that I can't quantify is that the 200C is one beefy unit
that was designed from the get-go to be abused in daily hard core aerobatic
use. Between the McCauley hub and the robust blades the 200C looks like it
would withstand quite a bit more abuse than the more diminuative appearing
150. I'm now happily flying behind the 200C and on an overall basis I prefer
it to the 150, for quantifiable, but mostly non-quantifiable reasons. Now on
the other side of the coin Hartzell (and MT) does extensive vibration
analysis and testing for certification purposes that the smaller
experimental-only companies like WW can't or don't do. That doesn't mean
they don't do their engineering homework however. WW in particular has had
all their designs audited by a DER and done a fair amount of static testing,
all of which yielded a very clean bill of health. What's missing is the
expensive in-flight dynamic stress testing, which I understand is on their
agenda eventually. And it has the benefit of being 12 lbs lighter than the
72" Hartzell, which sounds like you could use with an angle valve engine.
> Has anyone done any comparison testing with the MT
> or other propellers?
Not that I'm aware of, but I might be tempted if someone had an MT delivered
to my hangar.
FWIW,
Randy Lervold
RV-8, 306 hrs
www.rv-8.com
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--> RV8-List message posted by: Lloyd <tlloyd6250@comcast.net>
I guess I didn't express myself well. My engine is the lighter PARALLEL
VALVE engine not the 80 lb heavier ANGLE VALVE engine. The engine is
actually the Superior XP360 with some modifications.
The mods are: 10:1 coated pistons, dual Plasma IIIs, Bendix injection on
their new plastic cold airbox sump with a forward facing inlet. It is known
as an Eagle IV XP from America's Aircraft Engines, Tulsa, OK.
http://www.overhaul.com/eagle4.asp AAE is one of the three shops selected by
Superior to build their engine. More power at 80lb less weight than a Lyc
IO360-A1A.
Thanks for your input. I'll keep looking. Randy your work was what caused me
to wonder about further comparison data against the new Hartzell. Your
enthusiasm for the C200 is exciting. The WW sounds like the winner of my $$$
at this writing but, I still have some time to search. I would like to know
of anything heard about the MT. It is a good looking prop.
Tom N842TL
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Randy Lervold
Subject: Re: RV8-List: Propeller Info
--> RV8-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@rv-8.com>
> I have an RV8 about 1/2 done with 75% to go. I have ordered an engine that
> is an IO360 parallel valve with 10:1 pistons, dual Light Speed Plasma III
> ignition and Bendix injection with cold airbox intake system.
Sounds like you've got a real hot rod there, you are right to be concerned
about prop durability and compatibility.
> My question is about propellers, however. The new Hartzell blended airfoil
> performs well but has lots of operational restrictions. One RV8 driver did
a
> good operational test of the two and three blade Whirl Wind blades and got
> nearly identical results.
That would be me who did the testing you're referring to, and the story can
be found at www.rv-8.com/Prop.htm. The story however focuses on hard data so
as to be as objective as possible. What is missing to a large extent from my
story are the subjective impressions on the whole thing, so here's one such
personal opinion that I think applies to you: consider the Whirl Wind 200C.
One of the things that I can't quantify is that the 200C is one beefy unit
that was designed from the get-go to be abused in daily hard core aerobatic
use. Between the McCauley hub and the robust blades the 200C looks like it
would withstand quite a bit more abuse than the more diminuative appearing
150. I'm now happily flying behind the 200C and on an overall basis I prefer
it to the 150, for quantifiable, but mostly non-quantifiable reasons. Now on
the other side of the coin Hartzell (and MT) does extensive vibration
analysis and testing for certification purposes that the smaller
experimental-only companies like WW can't or don't do. That doesn't mean
they don't do their engineering homework however. WW in particular has had
all their designs audited by a DER and done a fair amount of static testing,
all of which yielded a very clean bill of health. What's missing is the
expensive in-flight dynamic stress testing, which I understand is on their
agenda eventually. And it has the benefit of being 12 lbs lighter than the
72" Hartzell, which sounds like you could use with an angle valve engine.
> Has anyone done any comparison testing with the MT
> or other propellers?
Not that I'm aware of, but I might be tempted if someone had an MT delivered
to my hangar.
FWIW,
Randy Lervold
RV-8, 306 hrs
www.rv-8.com
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--> RV8-List message posted by: Lloyd <tlloyd6250@comcast.net>
I believe that Randy Lervold's work was done on the HC-C2YK-1BF/F7666A-2
propeller. However, Hartzell recently came out with C2YR-1BF/F7496 or
C2YR-1BF/F7496-2 which Vans now sells. Van did an article on it in the last
RVator. They claim some improvement in the restrictions as well. Check it
out on Vans page.
Tom Lloyd N842TL
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--> RV8-List message posted by: Lloyd <tlloyd6250@comcast.net>
Correction: more power and less weight than an IO360 A1B 200 hp.
-----Original Message-----
From: Lloyd [mailto:tlloyd6250@comcast.net]
Subject: RE: RV8-List: Propeller Info
I guess I didn't express myself well. My engine is the lighter PARALLEL
VALVE engine not the 80 lb heavier ANGLE VALVE engine. The engine is
actually the Superior XP360 with some modifications.
The mods are: 10:1 coated pistons, dual Plasma IIIs, Bendix injection on
their new plastic cold airbox sump with a forward facing inlet. It is known
as an Eagle IV XP from America's Aircraft Engines, Tulsa, OK.
http://www.overhaul.com/eagle4.asp AAE is one of the three shops selected by
Superior to build their engine. More power at 80lb less weight than a Lyc
IO360-A1B.
Thanks for your input. I'll keep looking. Randy your work was what caused me
to wonder about further comparison data against the new Hartzell. Your
enthusiasm for the C200 is exciting. The WW sounds like the winner of my $$$
at this writing but, I still have some time to search. I would like to know
of anything heard about the MT. It is a good looking prop.
Tom N842TL
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Randy Lervold
Subject: Re: RV8-List: Propeller Info
--> RV8-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@rv-8.com>
> I have an RV8 about 1/2 done with 75% to go. I have ordered an engine that
> is an IO360 parallel valve with 10:1 pistons, dual Light Speed Plasma III
> ignition and Bendix injection with cold airbox intake system.
Sounds like you've got a real hot rod there, you are right to be concerned
about prop durability and compatibility.
> My question is about propellers, however. The new Hartzell blended airfoil
> performs well but has lots of operational restrictions. One RV8 driver did
a
> good operational test of the two and three blade Whirl Wind blades and got
> nearly identical results.
That would be me who did the testing you're referring to, and the story can
be found at www.rv-8.com/Prop.htm. The story however focuses on hard data so
as to be as objective as possible. What is missing to a large extent from my
story are the subjective impressions on the whole thing, so here's one such
personal opinion that I think applies to you: consider the Whirl Wind 200C.
One of the things that I can't quantify is that the 200C is one beefy unit
that was designed from the get-go to be abused in daily hard core aerobatic
use. Between the McCauley hub and the robust blades the 200C looks like it
would withstand quite a bit more abuse than the more diminuative appearing
150. I'm now happily flying behind the 200C and on an overall basis I prefer
it to the 150, for quantifiable, but mostly non-quantifiable reasons. Now on
the other side of the coin Hartzell (and MT) does extensive vibration
analysis and testing for certification purposes that the smaller
experimental-only companies like WW can't or don't do. That doesn't mean
they don't do their engineering homework however. WW in particular has had
all their designs audited by a DER and done a fair amount of static testing,
all of which yielded a very clean bill of health. What's missing is the
expensive in-flight dynamic stress testing, which I understand is on their
agenda eventually. And it has the benefit of being 12 lbs lighter than the
72" Hartzell, which sounds like you could use with an angle valve engine.
> Has anyone done any comparison testing with the MT
> or other propellers?
Not that I'm aware of, but I might be tempted if someone had an MT delivered
to my hangar.
FWIW,
Randy Lervold
RV-8, 306 hrs
www.rv-8.com
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--> RV8-List message posted by: RICKRV6@aol.com
Scott,
I was under the same impression but according to Whirlwind that's not
necessarily true. Whirlwind's web site says the series 150 prop is not
recommended for high compression or electronic ignition. I e-mailed them
just yesterday and they told me an IO360 with a counterweight crank and
electronic ignition is okay to use and they will be more than happy to sell
you a prop. The series 200 prop is okay regardless of the crank. They
appear to be selling a lot of 150 props. They're backordered until October.
Rick McBride
In a message dated 4/30/03 6:51:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com writes:
> --> RV8-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <
> bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>
> With that heavy engine up front the WW will save you ~30
> lbs....................Just remembered with high compression pistons and
> elect ign WW will not sell you a prop. FWIW
>
>
> At 04:56 PM 4/30/03 -0500, you wrote:
> >--> RV8-List message posted by: Lloyd <tlloyd6250@comcast.net>
> >
> >
> >I have an RV8 about 1/2 done with 75% to go. I have ordered an engine that
> >is an IO360 parallel valve with 10:1 pistons, dual Light Speed Plasma III
> >ignition and Bendix injection with cold airbox intake system.
> >
> >My question is about propellers, however. The new Hartzell blended airfoil
> >performs well but has lots of operational restrictions. One RV8 driver did
> a
> >good operational test of the two and three blade Whirl Wind blades and got
> >nearly identical results. Has anyone done any comparison testing with the
> MT
> >or other propellers?
> >
> >Tom Lloyd N842TL
> >
> >
>
>
> Scott Bilinski
> Eng dept 305
> Phone (858) 657-2536
> Pager (858) 502-5190
>
>
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| Subject: | Tank Construction & Princeton Sender |
--> RV8-List message posted by: "PAUL ANTOINETTE" <PaulAntoinette@msn.com>
I am currently working wings but do not yet have access to a shop large enough
to accommodate a wing jig. To not slow progress I'm doing everything I can without
having to assemble ribs to spars - I.e., flaps, ailerons, spar prep. I'm
now to the point where tank assembly is just about the only thing left I can
accommodate. Reviewing the instructions does not indicate any obvious requirement
for having the wings in the jig and skinned prior to assembling the tanks.
Before I proceed I'd like to know if I'm missing anything. Thoughts? My
particular wing kit is all prepunched.
Additionally - I'm installing Princeton Capacitance fuel senders as sold by Grand
Rapids. Anyone have experience installing these senders? Is their fit compatible
with the standard float type sender?
Thank you for any assistance.
mailto:paulantoinette@msn.com
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