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1. 01:59 AM - new builder (olc)
2. 06:04 AM - Re: Induction Planning (Esten Spears)
3. 08:57 AM - Re: Induction Planning (Chris Stone)
4. 09:23 AM - Re: new builder (Chris Stone)
5. 06:48 PM - Re: Oxygen bottle size and mounting location ()
6. 07:56 PM - RV gross weight (Dougpsr@aol.com)
7. 09:40 PM - Re: RV gross weight (gvm)
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--> RV8-List message posted by: "olc" <olcdlm@wanadoo.fr>
hello,
i'm a french new builder.
just starting empennage kit, serial number 81939.
i'm 44 yo and building in my house in Normandie.
my first flight was in 1994 on microlight and 1997 on plane.
i sold a Robin DR253( http://www.pilotlist.org/tagazous/bpoz.htm ) last
month to buy the Van's kit .
i'm hesitating between RV8A and RV8 (i have many hours on Mudry CAP10),
performances are very similar.
i prefer the RV8: look better, but i think that the RV8A is easier for sale.
i find the CAFE Fondation performance report for the RV8A, but i didn't
know anything about the RV8 (easy or hard to taxi with crosswind for
example).
what did you think about RV8 against RV8A ?
for engine, my project is 180hp with a fixed wood prop (3blades like the
CAP10 homebuilt F-PYIF http://fderieux.9online.fr/fpyif.htm it's me on the
flying picture)
did you know how is the inverted flight on a RV8(8) ?
thanks for discussion about engine !
sorry for my bad english !
Olivier Le Carbonnier
7, place Cauchoise
76000 Rouen
France
olcdlm@wanadoo.fr
ICQ#: 82067330
empennage
http://www.pilotlist.org
http://nav2000.com/LF7622 Yvetot
http://nav2000.com/LFOP Rouen
http://www.pilotlist.org/trombino/lecarbonnier.html
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| Subject: | Re: Induction Planning |
--> RV8-List message posted by: Esten Spears <ewspears@comcast.net>
Scott,
Make no mistake, a parallel valve 180 HP engine is an ideal engine for most
RV's. That fact influences the Supply/Demand curve to the point where I
could buy a used Angle Valve 360 for less than a used 180 HP. Reason One
My engine comes with a counterbalanced crank. (Very desirable with a metal
propeller) Reason Two
My engine is 200 HP while still Certified Reason Three
Should I wish to forego the Certification, The angle valve engine responds
to mods even better than the parallel valve. i.e. 230HP or more. Reason Four
Engine already comes with Fuel Injection and allows me to use Cowl without
inlet projection which I think looks better. Reason Five
For me, these 5 reasons were enough to put up with the 30#'s, Heck I could
recoup the 30#'s by just going on a diet! Your mileage may vary!
Esten Spears, RV8A, N922ES (reserve), Finishing up Fuse, Leeward Air Ranch,
Ocala, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Bilinski" <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Subject: RE: RV8-List: Induction Planning
> --> RV8-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski
<bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>
> You IO-360 guys can you educate me as to why you went with a IO-360 200 hp
> instead of a
> IO-360 180 HP modified to 200 HP? You save 30 lbs from the front of the
> plane this way.
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| Subject: | Induction Planning |
--> RV8-List message posted by: "Chris Stone" <Chris.Stone@a-dec.com>
Sure...
I found a low time IO-360-C1C6 out of a Piper Arrow. The owner of which
made me an offer I couldn't refuse! $20K to $30K for an engine was a
budget buster.
I plan to offset some of the increased weight by using a Whirlwind prop
and light weight governor and starter.
Chris Stone
RV-8 Wings
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Bilinski [mailto:bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com]
Subject: RE: RV8-List: Induction Planning
--> RV8-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski
--> <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
You IO-360 guys can you educate me as to why you went with a IO-360 200
hp instead of a
IO-360 180 HP modified to 200 HP? You save 30 lbs from the front of the
plane this way.
At 01:35 PM 5/21/03 -0700, you wrote:
>--> RV8-List message posted by: "Chris Stone" <Chris.Stone@a-dec.com>
>
>I too will be mounting an IO-360 angle valve on my RV-8. I would be
>interested in an alternative to the snorkel intake.
>
>Chris Stone
>RV-8 wings
>Oregon
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jonweisw@rcn.com [mailto:jonweisw@rcn.com]
>To: rv8-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV8-List: Induction Planning
>
>
>--> RV8-List message posted by: jonweisw@rcn.com
>
>Funny you should ask...I am at the same point - I ordered the
>finish kit with plans for an O-360-A1A and since changed my
>mind and ordered (and have since mounted) an IO-360-M1B. So,
>I have the lower cowl for the A1A and have had to order the
>cowl for the M1B - an expensive mistake($500 incl shipping).
>
>I have researched this a little, and found that the scoop on
>the O-360 cowl is too low relative to the front of the
>throttle body to allow a reliable, unobstructed, filtered
>intake, hence the "snorkel" which vans provides which
>receives air from forward of cyl #2. I know of one individual
>who fab'd his own ram air intake for an angled valve IO-360
>out of fiberglass and it looks great. Could point you in his
>direction if you want to contact me off the list. His work is
>impeccable - at the cost of more hours...
>
>Jon
>
>
>direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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--> RV8-List message posted by: "Chris Stone" <Chris.Stone@a-dec.com>
Olivier...
I decided on the RV-8 for its esthetic beauty. Sure the ground handling
is better in the -8A... BUT, Would you fly a tri gear P-51? Or Extra
300?
The -8 I have flown has good ground handling. You DO have to fly it all
the way through the landing. Like any taildragger... You're not done
flying 'till the prop stops!
Whatever you decide you won't be disappointed! They both are wonderful
flying aircraft.
Chris Stone
RV-8 Wings
-----Original Message-----
From: olc [mailto:olcdlm@wanadoo.fr]
Subject: RV8-List: new builder
--> RV8-List message posted by: "olc" <olcdlm@wanadoo.fr>
hello,
i'm a french new builder.
just starting empennage kit, serial number 81939.
i'm 44 yo and building in my house in Normandie.
my first flight was in 1994 on microlight and 1997 on plane.
i sold a Robin DR253( http://www.pilotlist.org/tagazous/bpoz.htm ) last
month to buy the Van's kit .
i'm hesitating between RV8A and RV8 (i have many hours on Mudry CAP10),
performances are very similar. i prefer the RV8: look better, but i
think that the RV8A is easier for sale. i find the CAFE Fondation
performance report for the RV8A, but i didn't know anything about the
RV8 (easy or hard to taxi with crosswind for example). what did you
think about RV8 against RV8A ?
for engine, my project is 180hp with a fixed wood prop (3blades like the
CAP10 homebuilt F-PYIF http://fderieux.9online.fr/fpyif.htm it's me on
the flying picture)
did you know how is the inverted flight on a RV8(8) ?
thanks for discussion about engine !
sorry for my bad english !
Olivier Le Carbonnier
7, place Cauchoise
76000 Rouen
France
olcdlm@wanadoo.fr
ICQ#: 82067330
empennage
http://www.pilotlist.org
http://nav2000.com/LF7622 Yvetot
http://nav2000.com/LFOP Rouen
http://www.pilotlist.org/trombino/lecarbonnier.html
direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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| Subject: | Re: Oxygen bottle size and mounting location |
--> RV8-List message posted by: <gvm@cableone.net>
I bought a Mountain High EDS-011 kit and an oxymiser for the back seater. I get
6 to 8 hrs with two users and now fly Xcountry up to 17500ft. Never have paid
more than $10 for a fill.
The kevlar cylinder is very light and narrow. Its straped vertically to the back
of the pilot
seat. I do need to remove the rear stick though.
Like it.
See www.mhoxygen.com/index.phtml?nav_id=28&product_id=64
rv8 n89gm, 260hrs
Greg
>
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> --> RV8-List message posted by: Rob Miller <rmill2000@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello
>
> I am going to purchase an oxygen system for the -8 and need to know where
> others have 'mounted' a portable system, which brand, size of bottle, and
> how it is working out.
>
> No luck in the archives.
>
> Rob Miller
> N262RM -8 "Bad Cat" 66 hours
> Pictures can be seen at www.homebuiltairplanes.com
>
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--> RV8-List message posted by: Dougpsr@aol.com
Has anyone had an RV certified at a gross weight higher than Van's
recommends? Has anyone tried to get a gross weight increase on an RV already flying?
Thanks,
Doug Preston
RV8 N127EK
DNA
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| Subject: | Re: RV gross weight |
--> RV8-List message posted by: gvm <gvm@cableone.net>
Gross weight was not a parameter of interest to the FAA when I had mine
certified. I have no gross weight stamped on the ID plate-only the data
was that specifically required by Feds--make, model, serial number
(which you make up), and date of manufacture.
I don't think experimental planes have a legal gross weight limit to
worry about. Nothing in the operating limitations says anything about
gross weight. Please correct me if this is wrong.
That said, I have not been able to load my RV8 over Van's gross limit so
far. I did weight our luggage once at 116 lb. But with the two of us,
and full fuel, I think we were still 20 lb under Vans recommendation.
Note that Alaska store-boughts can operate at 15% over gross legally.
RV8 N89GM, 250 hrs.
Greg
On Thu, 2003-05-22 at 20:55, Dougpsr@aol.com wrote:
> --> RV8-List message posted by: Dougpsr@aol.com
>
> Has anyone had an RV certified at a gross weight higher than Van's
> recommends? Has anyone tried to get a gross weight increase on an RV already
flying?
> Thanks,
> Doug Preston
> RV8 N127EK
>
> DNA
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