---------------------------------------------------------- RV8-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 02/09/04: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:31 AM - Re: Priming / Painting (Mickey Coggins) 2. 01:24 AM - Primers (Terrence Gardner) 3. 06:52 AM - Re: Primers (Cy Galley) 4. 11:23 AM - Re: Re: Priming / Painting (Andrew Morgan) 5. 11:46 AM - Re: Re: Priming / Painting (lucky macy) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:31:31 AM PST US From: Mickey Coggins Subject: RV8-List: Re: Priming / Painting --> RV8-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins >That "grey" color is a diluted version of Sherwin >Williams P60-G2 Wash Primer. It provides minimal >corrosion protection and is not a vapor barrier >(water, etc.) like Epoxy Primers are. Per the >military, it is not a substitute for a "real" primer >like an Epoxy Primer and it needs to be coated with a >"real" primer" or painted over. A Wash Primer is just >a low cost, easy application substitute for a more >laborous Acid Etch and Alodine method which provides >better corrosion protection. What do you think it will take to get Van's to start using a good epoxy primer? I'm pretty surprised they use this Sherwin Williams P60-G2 Wash Primer, since it does not provide a vapor barrier, so is really "useless" unless you paint a top coat over it. Of course, in the QB, you can't get to all the places that need a topcoat. This seems to be a rather strange choice that Van's has made, IMHO. -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 Wings ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:24:02 AM PST US From: "Terrence Gardner" Subject: RV8-List: Primers --> RV8-List message posted by: "Terrence Gardner" With Van's it is all about money. Therefore it doesn't surprise me they use the cheapest primer,cheapest alternators, thinnest panel, etc. But considering the total package they do have one of the best things going. Terry Gardner RV9A QB/Electrical/Avionics Do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:58 AM PST US From: "Cy Galley" Subject: Re: RV8-List: Primers --> RV8-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" There are those that think interior primer just adds un-necessary weight. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terrence Gardner" Subject: RV8-List: Primers > --> RV8-List message posted by: "Terrence Gardner" > > With Van's it is all about money. Therefore it doesn't surprise me they use > the cheapest primer,cheapest alternators, thinnest panel, > etc. > > But considering the total package they do have one of the best things going. > > Terry Gardner > RV9A QB/Electrical/Avionics > Do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:23:15 AM PST US From: "Andrew Morgan" Subject: RE: RV8-List: Re: Priming / Painting --> RV8-List message posted by: "Andrew Morgan" yes, see... i want to go with the QB, but the primer issue is a major concern! DO NOT ARCHIVE -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mickey Coggins Subject: RV8-List: Re: Priming / Painting --> RV8-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins >That "grey" color is a diluted version of Sherwin >Williams P60-G2 Wash Primer. It provides minimal >corrosion protection and is not a vapor barrier >(water, etc.) like Epoxy Primers are. Per the >military, it is not a substitute for a "real" primer >like an Epoxy Primer and it needs to be coated with a >"real" primer" or painted over. A Wash Primer is just >a low cost, easy application substitute for a more >laborous Acid Etch and Alodine method which provides >better corrosion protection. What do you think it will take to get Van's to start using a good epoxy primer? I'm pretty surprised they use this Sherwin Williams P60-G2 Wash Primer, since it does not provide a vapor barrier, so is really "useless" unless you paint a top coat over it. Of course, in the QB, you can't get to all the places that need a topcoat. This seems to be a rather strange choice that Van's has made, IMHO. -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 Wings ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:46:13 AM PST US From: "lucky macy" Subject: RE: RV8-List: Re: Priming / Painting --> RV8-List message posted by: "lucky macy" nah, it's nothing. get the QB. >From: "Andrew Morgan" >Reply-To: rv8-list@matronics.com >To: >Subject: RE: RV8-List: Re: Priming / Painting >Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 13:14:39 -0600 > >--> RV8-List message posted by: "Andrew Morgan" > >yes, see... i want to go with the QB, but >the primer issue is a major concern! > >DO NOT ARCHIVE > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mickey Coggins >To: rv8-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV8-List: Re: Priming / Painting > > >--> RV8-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins > > > >That "grey" color is a diluted version of Sherwin > >Williams P60-G2 Wash Primer. It provides minimal > >corrosion protection and is not a vapor barrier > >(water, etc.) like Epoxy Primers are. Per the > >military, it is not a substitute for a "real" primer > >like an Epoxy Primer and it needs to be coated with a > >"real" primer" or painted over. A Wash Primer is just > >a low cost, easy application substitute for a more > >laborous Acid Etch and Alodine method which provides > >better corrosion protection. > >What do you think it will take to get Van's to start >using a good epoxy primer? I'm pretty surprised >they use this Sherwin Williams P60-G2 Wash Primer, >since it does not provide a vapor barrier, so is >really "useless" unless you paint a top coat over it. > >Of course, in the QB, you can't get to all the places >that need a topcoat. This seems to be a rather >strange choice that Van's has made, IMHO. > >-- > >Mickey Coggins >http://www.rv8.ch/ >#82007 Wings > > Plan your next US getaway to one of the super destinations here.