---------------------------------------------------------- RV8-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 03/23/04: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:06 AM - G-meter (Ken Simmons) 2. 09:33 AM - G-meter (RV_8 Pilot) 3. 09:53 AM - Re: [rv8list] G-meter (Randy Lervold) 4. 10:12 AM - Re: G-meter (Doug Ripley) 5. 10:52 AM - Re: G-meter (Stein Bruch) 6. 01:50 PM - Re: [rv8list] G-meter (Bill VonDane) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:06:18 AM PST US From: "Ken Simmons" Subject: RV8-List: G-meter --> RV8-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" I've been trying to decide on instruments and am asking for opinions on the "need" for a G-meter in the 8. I plan on doing normal RV type aerobatics and I understand these can get kind of interesting if not done correctly. Is the G meter of any use during the maneuver or just to tell you how bad it was? Thanks. Ken ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:33:22 AM PST US From: "RV_8 Pilot" Subject: RV8-List: G-meter --> RV8-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" If you plan on any acro, get a G-meter. IMVHO, they're required equipment in an aerobatic plane that *can* be broken. Coincidentally, I have one for sale. :) It's mechanical and works very well. Was recently replaced with a Dynon. Write me if interested. rv_8pilot@hotmail.com Bryan Jones -8 608 hrs www.LoneStarSquadron.com Houston, Texas > >I've been trying to decide on instruments and am asking for opinions on the >"need" for a G-meter in the 8. I plan on doing normal RV type aerobatics >and I understand these can get kind of interesting if not done correctly. >Is the G meter of any use during the maneuver or just to tell you how bad >it was? > >Thanks. >Ken ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:53:40 AM PST US From: "Randy Lervold" Subject: RV8-List: Re: [rv8list] G-meter --> RV8-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" I wouldn't have an RV without one. Skilled aerobatic pilots who fly frequently can probably tell by the feel what the G load is, but I can't. Once I get over about 3 then 4/5/6 all feel about the same, yet you REALLY need to know this. I think it's especially important when you botch a maneuver... both airspeed and G load can get out of hand really fast. Jerry Vangrunsven thinks its so important that he encourages builders to locate their G-meter up toward the top of the panel right next to the ASI. FWIW, Randy Lervold RV-8, 368 hrs, sold RV-3B, starting construction, www.romeolima.com/RV3factory.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Simmons To: rv8list@yahoogroups.com ; rv8-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 9:05 AM Subject: [rv8list] G-meter I've been trying to decide on instruments and am asking for opinions on the "need" for a G-meter in the 8. I plan on doing normal RV type aerobatics and I understand these can get kind of interesting if not done correctly. Is the G meter of any use during the maneuver or just to tell you how bad it was? Thanks. Ken Information exchange for builders of Vans Aircraft RV-8 kits. IF YOU WISH TO UNSUBSCRIBE, PLEASE SEND AN EMAIL TO : rv8list-unsubscribe@egroups.com a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rv8list/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: rv8list-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:12:20 AM PST US From: "Doug Ripley" Subject: Re: RV8-List: G-meter --> RV8-List message posted by: "Doug Ripley" My $0.02 If you're going to do any kind of aerobatics you should have one. Consider the "G" limitations for the -8 being different at different gross weights. You should always be aware if you are exceeding them. It's just as important as the markings on the airspeed indicator. As you become more accustomed to aerobatics and higher positive G's, you become more immune to them. You could easily get to where you're pulling more than the aircraft is rated without knowing. Remember the first time you did 60 degree bank turns and you thought that was a lot of G's? That's nothing now! My brother had been doing loops and spins in a J-3. He claimed that he was able to get a barrel roll out of a 65 hp Cub. I didn't believe him, so he took me for a roll. I couldn't believe what he was doing!! He would dive to red-line, pull up HARD and crank in full up elevator and left & right rudder. Yes, he did it, but I'm guessing he was pulling about 6 or 7 asymmetrical G's in a 1946 Cub. He had never flown an airplane with a G meter, and had grown used to the higher G's. Now he's an ag pilot flying a worn-out Thrush, and he's proud that he can turn faster than any of the other pilots.......I really wish he had a G meter. Even if you get one of the cheaper ones that don't record, it's a useful instrument that will keep you operating within the limitations. Doug RV8 flying by July N821DT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Simmons" Subject: RV8-List: G-meter > --> RV8-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" > > I've been trying to decide on instruments and am asking for opinions on the "need" for a G-meter in the 8. I plan on doing normal RV type aerobatics and I understand these can get kind of interesting if not done correctly. Is the G meter of any use during the maneuver or just to tell you how bad it was? > > Thanks. > Ken > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:52:41 AM PST US From: "Stein Bruch" Subject: RE: RV8-List: G-meter --> RV8-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" Hi Ken, As one who can't seem to fly my RV right side up on nearly every flight, I can definately recommend a "G-Meter". If you're not really sure what 2 or 3 G's is in your RV, you should get one. The reason I pick those numbers is that most every maneuver can be done in that envelope unless you start getting crazy. That being said, if you fall on your back out of a hammerhead, do a split-s out of a roll, or flub up a loop/cuban 8, things can get real exciting, REAL fast. The G-Meter lets you start out easy and see what the forces feel like before you try anything too hard. Anyway, have fun with your RV, but be carefull, these are slippery devils! Cheers, Stein Bruch RV6's, Minneapolis. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ken Simmons Subject: RV8-List: G-meter --> RV8-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" I've been trying to decide on instruments and am asking for opinions on the "need" for a G-meter in the 8. I plan on doing normal RV type aerobatics and I understand these can get kind of interesting if not done correctly. Is the G meter of any use during the maneuver or just to tell you how bad it was? Thanks. Ken ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:50:44 PM PST US From: Bill VonDane Subject: RV8-List: Re: [rv8list] G-meter "rv8-list@matronics.com" <003b01c410ff$5d24e360$0d64a8c0@firstaidonly.com> --> RV8-List message posted by: Bill VonDane I have been taking acro instruction from my Buddy Dave Petri in his Yak 52: http://www.vondane.com/otherpix/petri/index.htm and when I was re-cutting my panel he highly encouraged me to put my g-meter up high next to my airspeed indicator... So I did: http://www.vondane.com/rv8a/upgrades/196-2.jpg -Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Lervold" Subject: Re: [rv8list] G-meter I wouldn't have an RV without one. Skilled aerobatic pilots who fly frequently can probably tell by the feel what the G load is, but I can't. Once I get over about 3 then 4/5/6 all feel about the same, yet you REALLY need to know this. I think it's especially important when you botch a maneuver... both airspeed and G load can get out of hand really fast. Jerry Vangrunsven thinks its so important that he encourages builders to locate their G-meter up toward the top of the panel right next to the ASI. FWIW, Randy Lervold RV-8, 368 hrs, sold RV-3B, starting construction, www.romeolima.com/RV3factory.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Simmons To: rv8list@yahoogroups.com ; rv8-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 9:05 AM Subject: [rv8list] G-meter I've been trying to decide on instruments and am asking for opinions on the "need" for a G-meter in the 8. I plan on doing normal RV type aerobatics and I understand these can get kind of interesting if not done correctly. Is the G meter of any use during the maneuver or just to tell you how bad it was? Thanks. Ken Information exchange for builders of Vans Aircraft RV-8 kits. 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