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1. 01:20 PM - Please save me from RV-8 remorse (Lawson, Michael)
2. 01:47 PM - Re: Please save me from RV-8 remorse (RV8ter@aol.com)
3. 01:48 PM - Re: Please save me from RV-8 remorse (Lenleg@aol.com)
4. 02:12 PM - Re: Please save me from RV-8 remorse (Scott Bilinski)
5. 03:06 PM - Re: Please save me from RV-8 remorse (C. Rabaut)
6. 06:09 PM - Re: Please save me from RV-8 remorse (RICKRV6@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Please save me from RV-8 remorse |
--> RV8-List message posted by: "Lawson, Michael" <mikel@SSD.FSI.com>
Fellow RV-8/8A lovers,
I was just making more progress on my wings last night, when a nasty thought
hit me: "Why am I building an RV-8 -- an RV-7 would be much better, in
terms of passenger comfort, as a platform for getting my instrument rating,
and in terms of baggage space."
When I started on my -8, I was single, and had the "fighter plane"
mentality. Now that I just got married, I have to think that maybe the wife
would be happier in a side-by-side. I even considered trying to figure out
if my existing -8 wings and tail could be used in a -7, but alas, I have
already received the -8 fuselage. (FWIW, the wife has not expressed a
tandem/SBS preference either way; she just wishes I would take her flying in
SOMETHING first before this plane is done...) ;-)
So, what I'm hoping for is for some encouragement from some of y'all who are
happily flying your RV-8's/RV-8A's that I've got a great plane going here
and that I don't need to backtrack to doing a -7.
Thanks for any encouragement.
Michael Lawson
Tulsa, OK
RV-8A 81825 (finishing wings, starting tanks)
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Please save me from RV-8 remorse
Fellow RV-8/8A lovers,
I was just making more progress on my wings last night, when a nasty thought hit
me: Why am I building an RV-8 -- an RV-7 would be much better, in terms of passenger
comfort, as a platform for getting my instrument rating, and in terms
of baggage space.
When I started on my -8, I was single, and had the fighter plane mentality. Now
that I just got married, I have to think that maybe the wife would be happier
in a side-by-side. I even considered trying to figure out if my existing -8 wings
and tail could be used in a -7, but alas, I have already received the -8
fuselage. (FWIW, the wife has not expressed a tandem/SBS preference either way;
she just wishes I would take her flying in SOMETHING first before this plane
is done...) ;-)
So, what I'm hoping for is for some encouragement from some of y'all who are happily
flying your RV-8's/RV-8A's that I've got a great plane going here and that
I don't need to backtrack to doing a -7.
Thanks for any encouragement.
Michael Lawson
Tulsa, OK
RV-8A 81825 (finishing wings, starting tanks)
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Please save me from RV-8 remorse |
--> RV8-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com
Build what the hell YOU want to fly. I started off with a 6 for the spousal
reasons you stated and then my wife rode in one and rode in a 8. She
preferred the personal space of the 8 so I jumped on the chance to change. There
is
no substitute for the pilot getting to sit on the centerline.
Get your wife a chance to fly in each if it's a big deal to you. Consider
putting a garmin 196 or 296 in the back so she can see the pseudo instrument
page and the map data.
It's what I'm doing, FWIW.
I know that I'll be flying most of the time solo doing acro and formation
with an occasional CC trip with a family member so the 8 is perfect.
lucky
In a message dated 4/1/2004 4:24:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mikel@SSD.FSI.com writes:
--> RV8-List message posted by: "Lawson, Michael" <mikel@SSD.FSI.com>
Fellow RV-8/8A lovers,
I was just making more progress on my wings last night, when a nasty thought
hit me: "Why am I building an RV-8 -- an RV-7 would be much better, in
terms of passenger comfort, as a platform for getting my instrument rating,
and in terms of baggage space."
When I started on my -8, I was single, and had the "fighter plane"
mentality. Now that I just got married, I have to think that maybe the wife
would be happier in a side-by-side. I even considered trying to figure out
if my existing -8 wings and tail could be used in a -7, but alas, I have
already received the -8 fuselage. (FWIW, the wife has not expressed a
tandem/SBS preference either way; she just wishes I would take her flying in
SOMETHING first before this plane is done...) ;-)
So, what I'm hoping for is for some encouragement from some of y'all who are
happily flying your RV-8's/RV-8A's that I've got a great plane going here
and that I don't need to backtrack to doing a -7.
Thanks for any encouragement.
Michael Lawson
Tulsa, OK
RV-8A 81825 (finishing wings, starting tanks)
do not archive
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Please save me from RV-8 remorse
Fellow RV-8/8A lovers,
I was just making more progress on my wings last night, when a nasty thought
hit me: Why am I building an RV-8 -- an RV-7 would be much better, in terms of
passenger comfort, as a platform for getting my instrument rating, and in
terms of baggage space.
When I started on my -8, I was single, and had the fighter plane mentality.
Now that I just got married, I have to think that maybe the wife would be
happier in a side-by-side. I even considered trying to figure out if my existing
-8
wings and tail could be used in a -7, but alas, I have already received the
-8 fuselage. (FWIW, the wife has not expressed a tandem/SBS preference either
way; she just wishes I would take her flying in SOMETHING first before this
plane is done...) ;-)
So, what I'm hoping for is for some encouragement from some of y'all who are
happily flying your RV-8's/RV-8A's that I've got a great plane going here and
that I don't need to backtrack to doing a -7.
Thanks for any encouragement.
Michael Lawson
Tulsa, OK
RV-8A 81825 (finishing wings, starting tanks)
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Please save me from RV-8 remorse |
--> RV8-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
In a message dated 4/1/2004 4:24:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mikel@SSD.FSI.com writes:
> Fellow RV-8/8A lovers,
>
> I was just making more progress on my wings last night, when a nasty thought
> hit me: "Why am I building an RV-8 -- an RV-7 would be much better, in
> terms of passenger comfort, as a platform for getting my instrument rating,
> and in terms of baggage space."
>
> When I started on my -8, I was single, and had the "fighter plane"
> mentality. Now that I just got married, I have to think that maybe the wife
> would be happier in a side-by-side. I even considered trying to figure out
> if my existing -8 wings and tail could be used in a -7, but alas, I have
> already received the -8 fuselage. (FWIW, the wife has not expressed a
> tandem/SBS preference either way; she just wishes I would take her flying in
> SOMETHING first before this plane is done...) ;-)
>
> So, what I'm hoping for is for some encouragement from some of y'all who are
> happily flying your RV-8's/RV-8A's that I've got a great plane going here
> and that I don't need to backtrack to doing a -7.
>
> Thanks for any encouragement.
>
> Michael Lawson
>
Michael:
My wife flies with me in my 8A a lot. Longest trip was from North Carolina
to Key West. She does not have an interest in working the radios, flying the
plane, etc. so she is perfectly happy in the tandem. If she wanted to be more
of a "pilot" or "helper" then maybe she would prefer SBS.
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, NC N910LL
222 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Please save me from RV-8 remorse |
--> RV8-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
My wife likes to fly with me but wants nothing to do with flying. She sits
in back seat, sight seeing, reading, listening to CD's or what ever. She
has her own space and is comfortable. I remove the stick and cover the
stick area. She could not be happier with this arrangement. I also got a
nice shoulder/neck massage on our last trip!!
For me as a passanger I dont like butting shoulders or shoulder over lap in
a SBS. There is no comfortable place to put my feet so they are not in the
way while landing and taxing. The stick hits my legs easily combine that
with no where to put my feet on landing and it is uncomfortable for me,
although for a short time.
At 03:20 PM 4/1/04 -0600, you wrote:
>--> RV8-List message posted by: "Lawson, Michael" <mikel@SSD.FSI.com>
>
>Fellow RV-8/8A lovers,
>
>I was just making more progress on my wings last night, when a nasty thought
>hit me: "Why am I building an RV-8 -- an RV-7 would be much better, in
>terms of passenger comfort, as a platform for getting my instrument rating,
>and in terms of baggage space."
>
>When I started on my -8, I was single, and had the "fighter plane"
>mentality. Now that I just got married, I have to think that maybe the wife
>would be happier in a side-by-side. I even considered trying to figure out
>if my existing -8 wings and tail could be used in a -7, but alas, I have
>already received the -8 fuselage. (FWIW, the wife has not expressed a
>tandem/SBS preference either way; she just wishes I would take her flying in
>SOMETHING first before this plane is done...) ;-)
>
>So, what I'm hoping for is for some encouragement from some of y'all who are
>happily flying your RV-8's/RV-8A's that I've got a great plane going here
>and that I don't need to backtrack to doing a -7.
>
>Thanks for any encouragement.
>
>Michael Lawson
>Tulsa, OK
>RV-8A 81825 (finishing wings, starting tanks)
>do not archive
>
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>Please save me from RV-8 remorse
>
>
>Fellow RV-8/8A lovers,
>
>
>I was just making more progress on my wings last night, when a nasty thought
>hit me: Why am I building an RV-8 -- an RV-7 would be much better, in terms
>of passenger comfort, as a platform for getting my instrument rating, and in
>terms of baggage space.
>
>
>When I started on my -8, I was single, and had the fighter plane mentality.
>Now that I just got married, I have to think that maybe the wife would be
>happier in a side-by-side. I even considered trying to figure out if my
>existing -8 wings and tail could be used in a -7, but alas, I have already
>received the -8 fuselage. (FWIW, the wife has not expressed a tandem/SBS
>preference either way; she just wishes I would take her flying in SOMETHING
>first before this plane is done...) ;-)
>
>
>So, what I'm hoping for is for some encouragement from some of y'all who are
>happily flying your RV-8's/RV-8A's that I've got a great plane going here
>and that I don't need to backtrack to doing a -7.
>
>
>Thanks for any encouragement.
>
>
>Michael Lawson
>
>Tulsa, OK
>
>RV-8A 81825 (finishing wings, starting tanks)
>
>do not archive
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: Please save me from RV-8 remorse |
--> RV8-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Michael,
I'm sorry to tell you this but.... You ARE building the wrong plane.
Just call Van's and order the RV-7 now. Then email me your address
(including zip code) so I can have the trucking company pick-up my new RV-8
quick build kit. :-}
Chuck
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----- Original Message -----
From: Lawson, Michael <mikel@SSD.FSI.com>
Subject: RV8-List: Please save me from RV-8 remorse
> --> RV8-List message posted by: "Lawson, Michael" <mikel@SSD.FSI.com>
>
> Fellow RV-8/8A lovers,
>
> I was just making more progress on my wings last night, when a nasty
thought
> hit me: "Why am I building an RV-8 -- an RV-7 would be much better, in
> terms of passenger comfort, as a platform for getting my instrument
rating,
> and in terms of baggage space."
>
> When I started on my -8, I was single, and had the "fighter plane"
> mentality. Now that I just got married, I have to think that maybe the
wife
> would be happier in a side-by-side. I even considered trying to figure
out
> if my existing -8 wings and tail could be used in a -7, but alas, I have
> already received the -8 fuselage. (FWIW, the wife has not expressed a
> tandem/SBS preference either way; she just wishes I would take her flying
in
> SOMETHING first before this plane is done...) ;-)
>
> So, what I'm hoping for is for some encouragement from some of y'all who
are
> happily flying your RV-8's/RV-8A's that I've got a great plane going here
> and that I don't need to backtrack to doing a -7.
>
> Thanks for any encouragement.
>
> Michael Lawson
> Tulsa, OK
> RV-8A 81825 (finishing wings, starting tanks)
> do not archive
>
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> Please save me from RV-8 remorse
>
>
> Fellow RV-8/8A lovers,
>
>
> I was just making more progress on my wings last night, when a nasty
thought hit me: Why am I building an RV-8 -- an RV-7 would be much better,
in terms of passenger comfort, as a platform for getting my instrument
rating, and in terms of baggage space.
>
>
> When I started on my -8, I was single, and had the fighter plane
mentality. Now that I just got married, I have to think that maybe the wife
would be happier in a side-by-side. I even considered trying to figure out
if my existing -8 wings and tail could be used in a -7, but alas, I have
already received the -8 fuselage. (FWIW, the wife has not expressed a
tandem/SBS preference either way; she just wishes I would take her flying in
SOMETHING first before this plane is done...) ;-)
>
>
> So, what I'm hoping for is for some encouragement from some of y'all who
are happily flying your RV-8's/RV-8A's that I've got a great plane going
here and that I don't need to backtrack to doing a -7.
>
>
> Thanks for any encouragement.
>
>
> Michael Lawson
>
> Tulsa, OK
>
> RV-8A 81825 (finishing wings, starting tanks)
>
> do not archive
>
>
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--> RV8-List message posted by: RICKRV6@aol.com
Mike,
I'm just one more in the choir but I have to agree with the other posts. I
finished my -6 in 92 and flew it for 500 hours all over the country before I
sold it to finance my -8. My wife traveled with me often in the -6 but like
many of the others, she was more interested in arriving than the joy of flying.
Not that others didn't enjoy a front seat view (which I do think is superior
than any backseat), but as far as I'm concerned only my wife mattered. And she
really didn't care one way or the other.
This is strictly my opinion but the baggage arrangement in the -8 is clearly
superior than in my -6. My -6 had a O-320 and wood prop and therefore, was
light in the nose. My problem with baggage in that airplane was not the volume
but the balance when light on fuel. The -8's ability to distribute the weight
between two compartments is clearly superior. I suspect however, an O-360,
constant speed -7 this would not be as big an issue.
As for the instrument rating, I have to hand it to the guys who got there
ratings in a -6 or a -7. I got mine in a C172 while I was building the -8. I'm
not going to advocate one method over another but it's a good way to keep
flying while you're building. If you put some effort into a good panel design
it
is quite possible to have a well equipped IFR capable -8.
Lastly, that WWII fighter paint job looks much more at home on an -8. Finish
the -8 and if you find out later you made the wrong decision, it's just a
good excuse to build number 2.
Rick McBride
80027 and oh so close to being finished
In a message dated 4/1/04 4:24:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, mikel@SSD.FSI.com
writes:
> --> RV8-List message posted by: "Lawson, Michael" <mikel@SSD.FSI.com>
>
> Fellow RV-8/8A lovers,
>
> I was just making more progress on my wings last night, when a nasty thought
> hit me: "Why am I building an RV-8 -- an RV-7 would be much better, in
> terms of passenger comfort, as a platform for getting my instrument rating,
> and in terms of baggage space."
>
> When I started on my -8, I was single, and had the "fighter plane"
> mentality. Now that I just got married, I have to think that maybe the wife
> would be happier in a side-by-side. I even considered trying to figure out
> if my existing -8 wings and tail could be used in a -7, but alas, I have
> already received the -8 fuselage. (FWIW, the wife has not expressed a
> tandem/SBS preference either way; she just wishes I would take her flying in
> SOMETHING first before this plane is done...) ;-)
>
> So, what I'm hoping for is for some encouragement from some of y'all who are
> happily flying your RV-8's/RV-8A's that I've got a great plane going here
> and that I don't need to backtrack to doing a -7.
>
> Thanks for any encouragement.
>
> Michael Lawson
> Tulsa, OK
> RV-8A 81825 (finishing wings, starting tanks)
> do not archive
>
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