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1. 07:53 AM - Garmin 296 (N8RV@gte.net)
2. 09:53 AM - Hartzell prop restrictions (N8RV@gte.net)
3. 12:10 PM - Re: Garmin 296 (Kevin Hanson)
4. 12:18 PM - Re: Garmin 296 (Doug Brinlee)
5. 01:00 PM - Re: Garmin 296 (Stein Bruch)
6. 02:48 PM - Re: Garmin 296 (Kevin Hanson)
7. 03:25 PM - Re: ebay warning: WAS Garmin 296 (Skylor Piper)
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"RV-8 List (Yahoo)" <RV-8@yahoogroups.com>
--> RV8-List message posted by: N8RV@gte.net
File this in the FWIW department ...
I just noticed on eBay that there's somebody selling OODLES of new
Garmin 296s. Starting bid is $1000. At OSH, this unit was not being
discounted by anyone, and the selling price everywhere was $1695. I
have no idea if this is legit or not, but if you're in the market for
one, it might save you a bundle. As always with eBay, caveat emptor.
Alas, I don't need one yet. :-(
-- Don
N8RV
do not archive
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"RV-8 List (Yahoo)" <RV-8@yahoogroups.com>
| Subject: | Hartzell prop restrictions |
--> RV8-List message posted by: N8RV@gte.net
I haven't read any grousing on the list about the operating restrictions
listed in Van's catalog for the Hartzell props. In considering which
prop to use, the restrictions are listed for each engine/prop combo and
read something like this:
"Note: When installed on an engine with magnetos, aftermarket electronic
ignition, LASAR system, or FADEC system then the following restrictions
apply:
1: Do not operate above 22" manifold pressure below 2350 rpm.
2: Operation above 2600 rpm is limited to takeoff. As soon as practical
after takeoff the rpm should be reduced to 2600 rpm or less.
3: FADEC equipped aircraft maximum engine RPM must be limited to 2650
RPM at ALL times."
Are these restrictions just CYA efforts, or are they significant? Do
these limitations have any real impact on how our planes are flown?
Thanks,
Don
N8RV
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--> RV8-List message posted by: Kevin Hanson <rv8tor@comcast.net>
Who knows where this guy from Germany got all these Garmin's. I was
watching these auctions as well and even sent the guy an email asking
for more details.
Just looked again...all the auctions are gone !! Something fishy going
on here.
Cheers,
Kevin
RV8 emp
N8RV@gte.net wrote:
> --> RV8-List message posted by: N8RV@gte.net
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> File this in the FWIW department ...
>
> I just noticed on eBay that there's somebody selling OODLES of new
> Garmin 296s. Starting bid is $1000. At OSH, this unit was not being
> discounted by anyone, and the selling price everywhere was $1695. I
> have no idea if this is legit or not, but if you're in the market for
> one, it might save you a bundle. As always with eBay, caveat emptor.
>
> Alas, I don't need one yet. :-(
>
> -- Don
> N8RV
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> do not archive
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--> RV8-List message posted by: "Doug Brinlee" <abfbrinlee@att.net>
Kevin,
Thats not uncommon.. ebay most likely caught him after he stole someones
account.. happened to me a while back.. some ass somehow hacked my user name
and password and was selling some plasma tv's.. I caught it thank God before
someone got took.
Doug
ps they list cheap and get several paypal payments then end auction and
disapear.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Hanson" <rv8tor@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: RV8-List: Garmin 296
> --> RV8-List message posted by: Kevin Hanson <rv8tor@comcast.net>
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> Who knows where this guy from Germany got all these Garmin's. I was
> watching these auctions as well and even sent the guy an email asking
> for more details.
>
> Just looked again...all the auctions are gone !! Something fishy going
> on here.
>
> Cheers,
> Kevin
> RV8 emp
>
> N8RV@gte.net wrote:
> > --> RV8-List message posted by: N8RV@gte.net
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> > File this in the FWIW department ...
> >
> > I just noticed on eBay that there's somebody selling OODLES of new
> > Garmin 296s. Starting bid is $1000. At OSH, this unit was not being
> > discounted by anyone, and the selling price everywhere was $1695. I
> > have no idea if this is legit or not, but if you're in the market for
> > one, it might save you a bundle. As always with eBay, caveat emptor.
> >
> > Alas, I don't need one yet. :-(
> >
> > -- Don
> > N8RV
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> > do not archive
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--> RV8-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
Y'all should know they are scams....and quite common at that. If the guy
won't give you his phone number, address, etc.. and is from overseas with
low feedback - STAY AWAY. EBAY usually cancels them fairly quickly, but I
personally know of someone who got raped by falling for it.
It's sad that the scammers have now found out that avionics and airplane
guys in particular have a decent amount of money to spend, and many are
"new" to the Ebay thing and somewhat naive/gullible when it comes to buying.
In the end, a good rule is: If it looks to good to be true, it probably is.
Cheers,
Stein Bruch
RV6's, Minneapolis (LOT's of experience on EBAY)
Do not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kevin Hanson
Subject: Re: RV8-List: Garmin 296
--> RV8-List message posted by: Kevin Hanson <rv8tor@comcast.net>
Who knows where this guy from Germany got all these Garmin's. I was
watching these auctions as well and even sent the guy an email asking
for more details.
Just looked again...all the auctions are gone !! Something fishy going
on here.
Cheers,
Kevin
RV8 emp
N8RV@gte.net wrote:
> --> RV8-List message posted by: N8RV@gte.net
>
> File this in the FWIW department ...
>
> I just noticed on eBay that there's somebody selling OODLES of new
> Garmin 296s. Starting bid is $1000. At OSH, this unit was not being
> discounted by anyone, and the selling price everywhere was $1695. I
> have no idea if this is legit or not, but if you're in the market for
> one, it might save you a bundle. As always with eBay, caveat emptor.
>
> Alas, I don't need one yet. :-(
>
> -- Don
> N8RV
>
> do not archive
>
>
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--> RV8-List message posted by: Kevin Hanson <rv8tor@comcast.net>
Well, he's back. This time it has a note about emailing him to get
pre-approval to bid. I emailed him and got this response:
"The total price of the one Garmin 296 is 1400 USD shipping taxes and
insurance of the package included. It is brand new in it's original box
and it has full US warranty. For the shipping I use UPS Express Air and
the package will arrive to you in 2 days. For the payment I use Western
Union Money Transfer."
So, I would think long and hard before wiring him money. You have no
protection.
Cheers,
Kevin
Kevin Hanson wrote:
> --> RV8-List message posted by: Kevin Hanson <rv8tor@comcast.net>
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> Who knows where this guy from Germany got all these Garmin's. I was
> watching these auctions as well and even sent the guy an email asking
> for more details.
>
> Just looked again...all the auctions are gone !! Something fishy going
> on here.
>
> Cheers,
> Kevin
> RV8 emp
>
> N8RV@gte.net wrote:
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>>--> RV8-List message posted by: N8RV@gte.net
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>>File this in the FWIW department ...
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>>I just noticed on eBay that there's somebody selling OODLES of new
>>Garmin 296s. Starting bid is $1000. At OSH, this unit was not being
>>discounted by anyone, and the selling price everywhere was $1695. I
>>have no idea if this is legit or not, but if you're in the market for
>>one, it might save you a bundle. As always with eBay, caveat emptor.
>>
>>Alas, I don't need one yet. :-(
>>
>>-- Don
>> N8RV
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>>do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: ebay warning: WAS Garmin 296 |
--> RV8-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com>
This sounds EXACTLY like the same scammer(s) that has
ripped off many, many people with supposed high end
cell phones.
Several identical things of note:
1. Too good to be true price.
2. Payment through Western Union.
3. Foreign country.
4. Free shipping (2nd day air).
5. Attempts to sell directly (outside of ebay).
These scammers will attempt to convince you that your
wire transfer is safe with Western union until you
verify you've received the item. That's not the case.
Sometimes, when potential buyers request the use of
escrow, they will refer you to a apparently legit
company that's also bogus.
More on these ebay scams here:
http://ming.tv/flemming2.php?did=10&vid=10&xmode=show_article&amode=standard&aoffset=0&artid=000010-000653&time=1076088131
I must say that I am shocked at how many people
naively fall for these scammers. Apparently many
people's common sense goes out the window when they
think they can get a great deal on something.
Use common sense, people!!!
I also discovered another scam after I recently bid on
a legit avionics item:
I received an e-mail apparently from e-bay indicating
that the sale of the item I was outbid on had fallen
through, and it was being made available to me through
a second chance auction. This, however, was not a
legit second chance auction, and the notice tried to
get me to contact somebody directly through e-mail to
buy the item. What tipped me off was the fact that I
knew the original seller's e-mail address, and the one
in the notice wasn't it.
Skylor
RV-8 QB Under Construction
N808SJ Reserved
--- Kevin Hanson <rv8tor@comcast.net> wrote:
> --> RV8-List message posted by: Kevin Hanson
> <rv8tor@comcast.net>
>
> Well, he's back. This time it has a note about
> emailing him to get
> pre-approval to bid. I emailed him and got this
> response:
>
> "The total price of the one Garmin 296 is 1400 USD
> shipping taxes and
> insurance of the package included. It is brand new
> in it's original box
> and it has full US warranty. For the shipping I use
> UPS Express Air and
> the package will arrive to you in 2 days. For the
> payment I use Western
> Union Money Transfer."
>
> So, I would think long and hard before wiring him
> money. You have no
> protection.
>
> Cheers,
> Kevin
>
> Kevin Hanson wrote:
> > --> RV8-List message posted by: Kevin Hanson
> <rv8tor@comcast.net>
> >
> > Who knows where this guy from Germany got all
> these Garmin's. I was
> > watching these auctions as well and even sent the
> guy an email asking
> > for more details.
> >
> > Just looked again...all the auctions are gone !!
> Something fishy going
> > on here.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kevin
> > RV8 emp
> >
> > N8RV@gte.net wrote:
> >
> >>--> RV8-List message posted by: N8RV@gte.net
> >>
> >>File this in the FWIW department ...
> >>
> >>I just noticed on eBay that there's somebody
> selling OODLES of new
> >>Garmin 296s. Starting bid is $1000. At OSH, this
> unit was not being
> >>discounted by anyone, and the selling price
> everywhere was $1695. I
> >>have no idea if this is legit or not, but if
> you're in the market for
> >>one, it might save you a bundle. As always with
> eBay, caveat emptor.
> >>
> >>Alas, I don't need one yet. :-(
> >>
> >>-- Don
> >> N8RV
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> >>do not archive
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