RV8-List Digest Archive

Thu 08/26/04


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 04:19 AM - Compass Swinging (Paul Happ)
     2. 06:06 AM - IFR & RFIS (Ed Oconnor)
     3. 06:15 AM - Re: RV 8A toe in (Scott Bilinski)
     4. 06:53 AM - Re: IFR & RFIS (RV_8 Pilot)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:19:05 AM PST US
    From: Paul Happ <phapp@yhp.com>
    Subject: Compass Swinging
    --> RV8-List message posted by: Paul Happ <phapp@yhp.com> We need to do a compass correction card and we don't have access to a compass rose. Can anyone point me to a document or rule that provides a legal / FAA approved alternate method for compass swinging without a compass rose? I've heard a few things, like using a certified compass as a reference or using the published actual headings (i.e. RWY 29 is 294 degrees) for runways. But that wouldn't give us the other compass points. P. Happ N446PH (reserved)


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    Time: 06:06:16 AM PST US
    From: Ed Oconnor <edwardoconnor@mac.com>
    Subject: IFR & RFIS
    --> RV8-List message posted by: Ed Oconnor <edwardoconnor@mac.com> -----Original Message----- From: Joe Norris Subject: RE: Kit plane instrument requirements Wayne, There is no requirement for instruments in an amateur-built aircraft to be TSOed, even when used for IFR flying. The builder/pilot must simply meet the requirements of FAR 91.205. The only instance when a TSOed unit must be used is in the case of an IFR GPS. For these installations, the guidance contained in advisory circular AC 20-138 must be followed. Of course, in order to use the aircraft under IFR, the transponder, encoder, and pitot/static tests must also be current. In a case where a builder wants to use the aircraft under IFR, part of the initial flight test should be to verify that all instruments and equipment perform properly. This would involve flying approaches in VFR conditions (and not under the hood, as there can be no safety pilot in the aircraft during flight testing) to verify that the instruments perform their intended functions. Hope this helps. If you have any further questions, please let me know. Joe Norris EAA Aviation Information Services EAA Aviation Center, Oshkosh, WI 888-322-4636, extension 6806 jnorris@eaa.org --- End quoted text -- Joe is pushing further for a read from the FAA in writing to back us up. As I discussed (and hopefully won a bet) from Kirk last weekend, the "gyro instrument" called out in 91.205 can be an AHRS or FAA would have to ground all the AHRS equipped transports! If Boeing can do it, we can do it, except perhaps for less money. In short, EAA supports our read of the rules. We are waiting for a letter from FAA to cast it in concrete.


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    Time: 06:15:29 AM PST US
    From: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
    Subject: Re: RV 8A toe in
    --> RV8-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com> Shims are for tail draggers, no adjustment for the "A" model. At 04:22 PM 8/24/2004 -0400, you wrote: >--> RV8-List message posted by: "Tom Scherder" <tomscherder@hotmail.com> > >Mark, >There are shims that you can get to correct any toe in or toe out. Washers >seem to work OK too. A little toe in is a good thing as it helps to keep the >plane going straight. Since we all always make perfect3 pointers when we >land we need to keep the alignment perfect, right? Just watch your tire wear >and it will tell you if your eating tires, Have you ever flown a 172 that >was actually in line? It's always best to get it as close as you can but the >gear will flex and twist as we bounce and twist our way into a perfect >landing. Try not to get eaten up in details. Build it right and it will fly >great. >Tom Scherder >RV 8 N38NE flying >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mark Rose" <av8er2@McLeodusa.net> >To: <rv8-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RV8-List: RV 8A toe in > > > > --> RV8-List message posted by: "Mark Rose" <av8er2@mcleodusa.net> > > > > I'm new to messaging on the list but here go,s. How do you correct the >toe in on the 8A? I have about 3/16s from a straight edge, don't know if >that is too much or not. Thank,s Mark Rose 137MR reserved. > > > > > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190


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    Time: 06:53:39 AM PST US
    From: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
    Subject: IFR & RFIS
    --> RV8-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com> >The only instance when a TSOed unit must be used is in the case of an IFR >GPS. For these installations, the guidance contained in advisory circular >AC 20-138 must be followed. Of course, in order to use the aircraft under >IFR, the transponder, encoder, and pitot/static tests must also be current. How about a transponder? I thought they had to be TSO'd. Bryan




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