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1. 05:47 AM - Re: RV8 - Canopy Frame Hole location Tip (Esten Spears)
2. 03:42 PM - Re: Rivets on RVs (Alfredo Santoro)
3. 10:13 PM - Re: RV8 - Canopy Frame Hole location Tip (Pete Marshall)
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| Subject: | Re: RV8 - Canopy Frame Hole location Tip |
--> RV8-List message posted by: "Esten Spears" <ewspears@comcast.net>
I think the way I like the best is; Put masking tape on the tubing, lightly
clamp the plexi to the frame, Then remove some of the clamps in a local
area, slide a piece of carbon paper (remember that stuff!) between plexi and
taped frame, tap plexi with fingertips and voila! you have a distinct
contact line on the tubing,. Just lay out your hole spacing and centerpunch
right on the line. This is quick, easy, and almost eliminates the crack
danger of setting a rivit or screw in a hole slightly off the contact line.
Esten Spears, RV8A, 80922, N922ES (reserved), Leeward Air Ranch, Ocala, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vince Himsl" <vhimsl@turbonet.com>
Subject: RV8-List: RV8 - Canopy Frame Hole location Tip
> --> RV8-List message posted by: "Vince Himsl" <vhimsl@turbonet.com>
>
> Finally made the cut...canopy that is and thought I would pass on this tip
> that might help you in measuring the rivet hole
> locations on the canopy frame for both the canopy and the canopy skirt. If
> this is only news to me, my apologies.
>
> Problem:
> The canopy frame is made from round tubing. I hate round tubing! Where do
> you drill?
>
> Well....
>
> Canopy Skirt:
> Take a flat strip of thin aluminum that has been laying around awhile.
> Next, lay it across the canopy frame to simulate the
> skirt so that it touches as many spots as possible on the fuselage side,
> frame ribs, etc
>
> Now the trick...Press down and move the aluminum strip around in a
> circular motion maintaining that position. The corrosion
> on the aluminum rubs off onto the frame tubing. Now stand back and you
> will see a perfect line on the tubing indicating the
> exact location where the canopy skirt will touch the canopy frame tubing.
>
> Canopy itself:
> This is different as the angle the canopy sits on the frame is different
> from the skirt. The way you handle this is to put
> the canopy in (final) position. Now with two pieces of aluminum, one
> stationary to protect the canopy and the moveable
> piece between it and the frame; move the aluminum around to mark exactly
> where the canopy will touch the canopy frame
> tubing. The back end of the canopy gets a little tougher...need someone
> inside, but it beats guessing!
>
> I am hoping that the more accurate placement of the holes will help
> prevent cracking and give a more precise rivet line.
>
> Time will tell.
>
> Regards
> Vince Himsl
> Moscow, ID USA
> RV-8 VSB (Very Slow Built) Finish
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rivets on RVs |
--> RV8-List message posted by: "Alfredo Santoro" <alfredo.santoro@poste.it>
Oh, I see..
That is good information.
Thank you very much, Stephen and Scott for your explanation!
Alfredo.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen J. Soule" <SSoule@pfclaw.com>
Subject: RE: RV8-List: Rivets on RVs
> Alfredo,
>
> The RV-4 structure is not riveted in a different manner, but the RV-8 kit
> comes to you with many of the part already drilled so that the parts
> match.
> This saves a great deal of time for the builder. I built a RV-6A in which
> all parts measured and marked by the builder (Me!) before riveting. I am
> building a RV-8 which is pre-drilled for the most part. The time saved is
> astonishing.
>
> The newer designs from Van's Aircraft are for computer-aided cutting,
> shaping and drilling machines - the RV-7, RV-7A and RV-9 and RV-9A designs
> have even more of the parts pre-drilled than the RV-8.
>
> Stephen Soule
> Swanton, Vermont
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alfredo Santoro
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 10:07 AM
> To: RV 8 List
> Subject: RV8-List: Rivets on RVs
>
>
> --> RV8-List message posted by: "Alfredo Santoro"
> --> <alfredo.santoro@poste.it>
>
> Hello, everybody.
> I was thinking that some of you would sure be able to clarify me something
> that I was told by an RV 6 builder that I met. I asked him suggestions
> about
> building an RV 4, which is what I am aiming to do as soon as possible.
> (Well, I am still at the decision phase about what kit to purchase). He
> was
> busy, during a home-builder meeting which I was attending as a tourist or
> little more, so he explained me the thing rather quickly and I am not sure
> I
> understood it well. Basically, when he heard me talking about an RV 4
> (which
> I love and had enjoyed a chance to fly), he suggested me to prefer an RV
> 8,
> instead, because of the different kind of rivets Van's adopted on it. He
> said that the RV 8 type of riveting is completely different and makes the
> structure stronger, expecially in aerobatics. Is anybody of you able to
> explain me the differences among the two, and confirm me this thesis?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Alfredo Santoro
> Rome, Italy.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV8 - Canopy Frame Hole location Tip |
--> RV8-List message posted by: Pete Marshall <wpetermarshall@shaw.ca>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Daniels" <jwdanie@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: RV8-List: RV8 - Canopy Frame Hole location Tip
> --> RV8-List message posted by: Jim Daniels <jwdanie@comcast.net>
>
> > Canopy itself:
> > This is different as the angle the canopy sits on the frame is
> > different from the skirt. The way you handle this is to put
> > the canopy in (final) position. Now with two pieces of aluminum, one
> > stationary to protect the canopy and the moveable
> > piece between it and the frame; move the aluminum around to mark
> > exactly where the canopy will touch the canopy frame
> > tubing. The back end of the canopy gets a little tougher...need
> > someone inside, but it beats guessing!
>
> Another way is to clamp the canopy securely on both sides of the rivet
> location. You will see a faint contact line form where the canopy
> rests on the tubing. Just drill centered on this line and
> perpendicular to the canopy. Works on the windscreen as well as the
> canopy.
>
> Jim Daniels
>
>
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