---------------------------------------------------------- RV8-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 11/01/04: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:18 AM - Matronics 2004 Email List Fund Raiser [PLEASE READ] (Matt Dralle) 2. 05:50 AM - Re: Re: seats (Sims, Doug) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:18:01 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV8-List: Matronics 2004 Email List Fund Raiser [PLEASE READ] --> RV8-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like Fund Raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the Email List servers at Matronics. The Lists sponsored here are supported solely though the direct contributions of its members each year during the Fund Raiser. 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Remember, its *your* Contribution that keeps these Lists running. The Contribution web site is freshly updated with a list of all new incentive gifts! Transactions are SSL secured and you can make your Contribution using a credit card, Paypal, or a personal check. The Contribution web site can be found at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your support!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:50:46 AM PST US From: "Sims, Doug" Subject: RE: RV8-List: Re: seats --> RV8-List message posted by: "Sims, Doug" I have a set as well but the seat back is too short for my shoulders. I'm 6'2" with a long back. I plan on extending the seat back to adjust for the height difference. Nice workmanship good people to work with. Find an 8 with these seats if you can. Good Luck. If you are ever in Blacksburg VA you are more than welcome to demo mine. Doug Firewall forward -----Original Message----- From: luckymacy@comcast.net [mailto:luckymacy@comcast.net] Subject: Re: RV8-List: Re: seats --> RV8-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky) holy cow. i think i get it now. Van's backrest isn't used at all! So you have to somehow attache a hinge half to the bottom of their seat system. Interesting. Why did they do that? Just so they could get built in support for their adjustable head rest? Any real possibility of the internal frame wearing through the material over time? any pictures from the back and installed? I'm curious how wide it is over a "normal" seat. do not archive lucky -------------- Original message -------------- > --> RV8-List message posted by: Joel Harding > > Lucky, > I have a set of their seats and they are very comfortable. The > internal frame back rest might be a little heavier, but the comfort > level makes it more than worth it. It attaches to the same hinge that > Van uses and at least for me, (6' 3") the legroom came out perfectly. > The quality of the materials and workmanship are excellent. I think > you will be more than satisfied. > > Joel Harding > > On Oct 30, 2004, at 1:47 PM, lucky wrote: > > > --> RV8-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky) > > > > I'm looking for opinions from you RV8 pilots out there. Classic Aero > > Designs markets their RV8 seats with the following statement "To > > improve comfort in the front seat, a new backrest has been designed. > > The backrest consists of a chromoly frame that is fully enclosed by > > the seat cover like an automotive seat. The unique design of the frame > > moves the pilots shoulders back slightly. Foam padding provides a > > slightly wider backrest for the pilot, and padding near the > > passenger's knees." > > http://www.classicaerodesigns.com/?source=rvproject.com > > Is there an issue I've never heard of before with the "normal" Pilot's > > seat width other vendors are styling? Even if there generally isn't, > > is this mod to the normal seat design desireable? I don't want it if > > it's a "heavy" seat. I've never seen any of their work that I know > > of. > > Thanks, > > Lucky > > > > I'm looking for opinions from you RV8 pilots out there. Classic Aero > > Designs markets their RV8 seats with the following statement "To > > improve comfort in the front seat, a new backrest has been designed. > > The backrest consists of a chromoly frame that is fully enclosed by > > the seat cover like an automotive seat. The unique design of the frame > > moves the pilots shoulders back slightly. Foam padding provides a > > slightly wider backrest for the pilot, and padding near the > > passenger's knees." > > http://www.classicaerodesigns.com/?source=rvproject.com > > Is there an issue I've never heard of before with the "normal" Pilot's > > seat width other vendors are styling? Even if there generally isn't, > > is this mod to the normal seat design desireable? I don't want it if > > it's a "heavy" seat. I've never seen any of their work that I know of. > > Thanks, > > Lucky > > > > > > _- > > ======================================================================= > > _- > > ======================================================================= > > _- > > ======================================================================= > > _- > > ======================================================================= > > > > > > > > > > > > > holy cow. i think i get it now. Van's backrest isn't used at all! So you have to somehow attache a hinge half to the bottom of their seat system. Interesting. Why did they do that? Just so they could get built in support for their adjustable head rest? Any real possibility of the internal frame wearing through the material over time? any pictures from the back and installed? I'm curious how wide it is over a "normal" seat. do not archive lucky -------------- Original message -------------- -- RV8-List message posted by: Joel Harding Lucky, I have a set of their seats and they are very comfortable. The internal frame back rest might be a little heavier, but the comfort level makes it more than worth it. It attaches to the same hinge that Van uses and at least for me, (6' 3") the legroom came out perfectly. The quality of the materials and workmanship are excellent. I think you will be more than satisfied. Joel Harding On Oct 30, 2004, at 1:47 PM, lucky wrote: -- RV8-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky) I'm looking for opinions from you RV8 pilots out there. Classic Aero Designs markets their RV8 seats with the following statement "To improve comfort in the front seat, a new backrest has been designed. The backrest consists of a chromoly frame that is fully enclosed by the seat cover like an automotive seat. The unique design of the frame moves the pilots shoulders back slightly. Foam padding provides a slightly wider backrest for the pilot, and padding near the passenger's knees." http://www.classicaerodesigns.com/?source=rvproject.com Is there an issue I've never heard of before with the "normal" Pilot's seat width other vendors are styling? Even if there generally isn't, is this mod to the normal seat design desireable? I don't want it if it's a "heavy" seat. I've never seen any of their work that I know of. Thanks, Lucky I'm looking for opinions fr om you RV8 pilots out there. Classic Aero Designs markets their RV8 seats with the following statement "To improve comfort in the front seat, a new backrest has been designed. The backrest consists of a chromoly frame that is fully enclosed by the seat cover like an automotive seat. The unique design of the frame moves the pilots shoulders back slightly. Foam padding provides a slightly wider backrest for the pilot, and padding near the passenger's knees." http://www.classicaerodesigns.com/?source=rvproject.com Is there an issue I've never heard of before with the "normal" Pilot's seat width other vendors are styling? Even if there generally isn't, is this mod to the normal seat design desireable? I don't want it if it's a "heavy" seat. I've never seen any of their work that I know of. 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