---------------------------------------------------------- RV8-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 12/14/04: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:41 AM - Re: Floor insulation (Vince Himsl) 2. 10:22 AM - Re: Floor insulation (Kevin Shannon) 3. 10:55 AM - Re: Floor insulation (Scott Bilinski) 4. 11:19 AM - Re: Floor insulation (tpu2@juno.com) 5. 11:40 AM - Re: Floor insulation (Kevin Shannon) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:41:31 AM PST US From: "Vince Himsl" Subject: RE: RV8-List: Floor insulation --> RV8-List message posted by: "Vince Himsl" I used super sound proofing (3/8 I think) from Aircraft Spruce. There is an article floating around discusing sound proofing of aircraft. Some say its great, some say that they don't notice difference. With 'problems getting enough heat' a constant and recurring thread on the list, I decided to go ahead anyway. Aircraft Spruce has a section on sound proofing aircraft products. Regards, Vince Himsl RV8 - VSB Finish -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of PPlous@aol.com Subject: RV8-List: Floor insulation --> RV8-List message posted by: PPlous@aol.com Anyone using any insulation under the 830/831 floor before riveting the thing down? If so, what type? Thanks P2 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:22:16 AM PST US From: "Kevin Shannon" Subject: RE: RV8-List: Floor insulation --> RV8-List message posted by: "Kevin Shannon" I think better airflow through the cabin is the answer. This can be done by putting a slight suction in the tail cone. A couple of small half round shapes laminated to the belly skin with holes drilled on the aft side will provide a little negative pressure and also act as a drain. I did this on my 9A and it worked well. Kevin Shannon RV8-QB -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vince Himsl Subject: RE: RV8-List: Floor insulation --> RV8-List message posted by: "Vince Himsl" I used super sound proofing (3/8 I think) from Aircraft Spruce. There is an article floating around discusing sound proofing of aircraft. Some say its great, some say that they don't notice difference. With 'problems getting enough heat' a constant and recurring thread on the list, I decided to go ahead anyway. Aircraft Spruce has a section on sound proofing aircraft products. Regards, Vince Himsl RV8 - VSB Finish ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:55:34 AM PST US From: Scott Bilinski Subject: RE: RV8-List: Floor insulation --> RV8-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski In cold weather the last thing you want is non heated airflow through the cabin. The coldest I have flown is 12F, the drafts were very annoying. Oh, and trust me, you dont really notice the drafts until it gets cold out, then you wonder were all that air is coming from. Giving the air an "out" will make for even more drafts. Sealing up the openings in and around the cockpit to keep the air out is were I put my money. At 10:22 AM 12/14/2004 -0800, you wrote: >--> RV8-List message posted by: "Kevin Shannon" > >I think better airflow through the cabin is the answer. This can be done >by putting a slight suction in the tail cone. A couple of small half >round shapes laminated to the belly skin with holes drilled on the aft >side will provide a little negative pressure and also act as a drain. I >did this on my 9A and it worked well. > >Kevin Shannon >RV8-QB > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vince Himsl >To: rv8-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: RV8-List: Floor insulation > >--> RV8-List message posted by: "Vince Himsl" > > >I used super sound proofing (3/8 I think) from Aircraft Spruce. There is >an article floating around discusing sound >proofing of aircraft. Some say its great, some say that they don't >notice difference. With 'problems getting enough heat' a >constant and recurring thread on the list, I decided to go ahead anyway. > >Aircraft Spruce has a section on sound proofing aircraft products. > >Regards, > >Vince Himsl >RV8 - VSB Finish > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:19:23 AM PST US From: "tpu2@juno.com" Subject: RE: RV8-List: Floor insulation --> RV8-List message posted by: "tpu2@juno.com" My plan for addl heat is to use the $80 seat heaters on front and rear. Not sure if DJ, Becky or Aeroclassics would make it fit while sewing, but its an easy install either way. My plan for sound is the best ANR I can get. Trying to make an RV quiet enough to fly without headphones is impossible, and if you have to put them on, then reducing the noise is best left to ANR. .02 Ted Utley 8A Finishing ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:40:28 AM PST US From: "Kevin Shannon" Subject: RE: RV8-List: Floor insulation --> RV8-List message posted by: "Kevin Shannon" I agree completely, you want "heated" air flowing through the cabin. If the cabin area is completely sealed, the warm air can not enter and circulate easily. My point is, seal all openings where cold air can enter, but give the static air inside the cabin a place to go, like out the tail -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Bilinski Subject: RE: RV8-List: Floor insulation --> RV8-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski In cold weather the last thing you want is non heated airflow through the cabin. The coldest I have flown is 12F, the drafts were very annoying. Oh, and trust me, you dont really notice the drafts until it gets cold out, then you wonder were all that air is coming from. Giving the air an "out" will make for even more drafts. Sealing up the openings in and around the cockpit to keep the air out is were I put my money. At 10:22 AM 12/14/2004 -0800, you wrote: >--> RV8-List message posted by: "Kevin Shannon" > >I think better airflow through the cabin is the answer. This can be done >by putting a slight suction in the tail cone. A couple of small half >round shapes laminated to the belly skin with holes drilled on the aft >side will provide a little negative pressure and also act as a drain. I >did this on my 9A and it worked well. > >Kevin Shannon >RV8-QB >