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Sun 02/13/05


Total Messages Posted: 7



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     1. 03:07 AM - Re: Value of built empennage kit (Mickey Coggins)
     2. 11:36 AM - -8 Front stick length? (Jack Blomgren)
     3. 12:01 PM - Re: -8 Front stick length? (Mickey Coggins)
     4. 06:56 PM - Flightcom Intercoms (Jacob & Grace)
     5. 07:14 PM - Re: Flightcom Intercoms (Stein Bruch)
     6. 08:47 PM - Re: Flightcom Intercoms (Jacob & Grace)
     7. 09:00 PM - Engine Balancing (MLWynn@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:07:01 AM PST US
    From: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
    Subject: Re: Value of built empennage kit
    --> RV8-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> Hi Marc, If you need the experience, and he has already built the tail, then it might have negative value to you. If you don't need the experience, and he did a good job, then I'd say it's about neutral. It's pretty rare to see much of a premium for our labor on these kits, until the plane is ready for taxi testing. Of course, just about every buy/sell pairing is unique, so YMMV. Mickey Marc Ausman wrote: > --> RV8-List message posted by: "Marc Ausman" <marc@ausman.com> > > I have a friend who has finished building the empennage kit for a -8 and now > must stop the project. He has offered to sell it to me, but I have no idea > of the value. On one hand, it could be worth close to what he paid in parts > and the fact it's completed is a nicety. On the other hand, there may not be > much of a market for a kit partially through completion. I don't know. > Anyone have thoughts or comparables? Many thanks, Marc > > -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 Wiring


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    Time: 11:36:48 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Blomgren" <jackanet@hotmail.com>
    Subject: -8 Front stick length?
    --> RV8-List message posted by: "Jack Blomgren" <jackanet@hotmail.com> -8, 8A Drivers, Any consensus out there on front stick length (overall height w/control grip installed) Are any cutting stick to the extent grip will clear forward under a standard panel? All comments welcome. Jack


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    Time: 12:01:45 PM PST US
    From: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
    Subject: Re: -8 Front stick length?
    --> RV8-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> Hi Jack, I had to cut mine. I cut it to the max overall length that Van's recommended, minus about 1/4". It just passes under the panel with about 1/4" clearance. I'm using a Ray Allen G307 grip. Mickey Jack Blomgren wrote: > --> RV8-List message posted by: "Jack Blomgren" <jackanet@hotmail.com> > > -8, 8A Drivers, > > Any consensus out there on front stick length (overall height w/control grip > installed) Are any cutting stick to the extent grip will clear forward > under a standard panel? All comments welcome. > > Jack > -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 Wiring


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    Time: 06:56:15 PM PST US
    From: "Jacob & Grace" <grizzlybear@klondiker.com>
    Subject: Flightcom Intercoms
    --> RV8-List message posted by: "Jacob & Grace" <grizzlybear@klondiker.com> I just spent two days trouble shooting the comm wiring in my 8 because when I toggled the Flightcom 403 to ISO it locked everything onto XMIT. Other than that it wouldn't transmit when keyed. Tried the ICOM A 200 in another aircraft, worked fine. So this weekend I ripped each wire out, tested continuity, replaced, but no change. Finally today I rigged the Intercom up outside the airplane....same thing. ICOM A200 works fine using airplane wiring but without intercom. Darned thing is broken inside....I figured that couldn't be...it was new out of box...I should have been more open minded in retrospect. So.....any recommendations for Intercoms with 1 comm unit and mono-music input? Flightcom lost it's appeal. Jacob 81938 (going for paint)


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    Time: 07:14:27 PM PST US
    From: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
    Subject: Flightcom Intercoms
    --> RV8-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com> Ummmm..... Did you buy a pre-wired harness from somewhere or did you wire it yourself? Don't throw it out until you're sure you've wired it correctly. Yes, it could be broke, but after wiring up literally dozens of Intercoms and troubleshooting many more for people, it's been my experience that the more likely problem is the wiring and not the Intercom. There could be other issues as well, but I'd urge you to make sure the box is in fact broke before you buy another. I had one customer who bought 3 different brands of Intercoms, swore all three were broke "out of the box", and come to find out it was all "pilot error". Not that this is the case with your installation, but it's also a possibility, as well as the possibility that the box itself could be broke like you said. Last but not least, don't get all worked up if it is broke. Flightcomm makes a great intercom, they are a great company and usually stand behind their products. Like anything aviation/avionics related there is the chance it could have a malufnction and it's wise to give any company at least one chance to make this right before firing both barrels. Just my 2 cents as usual. Cheers, Stein Bruch RV6's, Minneapolis. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jacob & Grace Subject: RV8-List: Flightcom Intercoms --> RV8-List message posted by: "Jacob & Grace" <grizzlybear@klondiker.com> I just spent two days trouble shooting the comm wiring in my 8 because when I toggled the Flightcom 403 to ISO it locked everything onto XMIT. Other than that it wouldn't transmit when keyed. Tried the ICOM A 200 in another aircraft, worked fine. So this weekend I ripped each wire out, tested continuity, replaced, but no change. Finally today I rigged the Intercom up outside the airplane....same thing. ICOM A200 works fine using airplane wiring but without intercom. Darned thing is broken inside....I figured that couldn't be...it was new out of box...I should have been more open minded in retrospect. So.....any recommendations for Intercoms with 1 comm unit and mono-music input? Flightcom lost it's appeal. Jacob 81938 (going for paint)


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    Time: 08:47:16 PM PST US
    From: "Jacob & Grace" <grizzlybear@klondiker.com>
    Subject: Re: Flightcom Intercoms
    --> RV8-List message posted by: "Jacob & Grace" <grizzlybear@klondiker.com> My mistake sorry! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com> Subject: RE: RV8-List: Flightcom Intercoms > --> RV8-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com> > > Ummmm..... > > Did you buy a pre-wired harness from somewhere or did you wire it > yourself? > > Don't throw it out until you're sure you've wired it correctly. Yes, it > could be broke, but after wiring up literally dozens of Intercoms and > troubleshooting many more for people, it's been my experience that the > more > likely problem is the wiring and not the Intercom. > > There could be other issues as well, but I'd urge you to make sure the box > is in fact broke before you buy another. I had one customer who bought 3 > different brands of Intercoms, swore all three were broke "out of the > box", > and come to find out it was all "pilot error". Not that this is the case > with your installation, but it's also a possibility, as well as the > possibility that the box itself could be broke like you said. > > Last but not least, don't get all worked up if it is broke. Flightcomm > makes a great intercom, they are a great company and usually stand behind > their products. Like anything aviation/avionics related there is the > chance > it could have a malufnction and it's wise to give any company at least one > chance to make this right before firing both barrels. > > Just my 2 cents as usual. > > Cheers, > Stein Bruch > RV6's, Minneapolis. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jacob & Grace > To: rv8-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV8-List: Flightcom Intercoms > > > --> RV8-List message posted by: "Jacob & Grace" > <grizzlybear@klondiker.com> > > I just spent two days trouble shooting the comm wiring in my 8 because > when > I toggled the Flightcom 403 to ISO it locked everything onto XMIT. Other > than that it wouldn't transmit when keyed. > > Tried the ICOM A 200 in another aircraft, worked fine. So this weekend I > ripped each wire out, tested continuity, replaced, but no change. Finally > today I rigged the Intercom up outside the airplane....same thing. ICOM > A200 works fine using airplane wiring but without intercom. > > Darned thing is broken inside....I figured that couldn't be...it was new > out > of box...I should have been more open minded in retrospect. > > So.....any recommendations for Intercoms with 1 comm unit and mono-music > input? Flightcom lost it's appeal. > > Jacob > 81938 > (going for paint) > > >


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    Time: 09:00:18 PM PST US
    From: MLWynn@aol.com
    Subject: Engine Balancing
    --> RV8-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com Hi all, While I am only about three years ahead of myself here, I have read somewhere about fine-tuning the balance of an engine/prop in order to reduce vibration. It seems to me that I have read that a factory new lycoming, while a very safe and reliable engine, is not balanced to very fine specs and that one could either take a new engine and have it taken down and very carefully balanced or might actually be better off with a runout engine and having it rebuilt to tighter specs. Any thoughts or experience on this? Regards, Michael Wynn RV-8, middle of the empennage San Ramon, California




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