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1. 05:44 AM - Landings (Nic)
2. 06:59 AM - Re: Landings (Joel Harding)
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--> RV8-List message posted by: "Nic" <Nic@skyhi.flyer.co.uk>
Rich, I totally agree - I have recently started flying my RV8 and previously
spent my time in an S1S in which although the vision is far less, holds and
flares beautifully.
I can only describe the RV8 landings as being without "feel", and basically
disappointing so far.
It is good to hear an honest opinion of your experiences, far too often the
lists are not very forthcoming on the shortfalls of what is otherwise a
great little aircraft.
Rgds, Nic
>
> I have 125 hours in my RV-8 and my experience is that it is somewhat
> difficult to make consistently good landings. Now, to avoid, all the name
> calling this is only my experience and I may not be the best pilot on the
> net and I'm an old guy (60). I have about 500 hours in Cessna 120,140 and
> 170's and 300 in a Christen Eagle and before that I was a Navy jet guy. I
> make full stall landings all the time because I want to be slower, rather
> than faster and avoid the transition to tail down. Again just my opinion.
> The RV-8 may have a little bit of blocking the tail at slow speeds and
full
> flaps, don't know. Try, watching RV's land and it seems that the "8"
> doesn't make as smooth a landing as the other tail dragging RV's. Could
be
> the gear design or CG or what ever, but if you watch a 100 RV landings
that
> seems to be the case. They are not unsafe landing, just not as smooth. I
> have tried less flaps, more power, no power it is just a little harder to
> make grease them-on-landings all the time. I think that in the Christen
> Eagle it was easier to make consistent good landings and you couldn't see
> the runway in it. It frustrates the heck out of me not to be able to make
> good landings all the time. Maybe more time or someone else will have the
> magic cure. But, if I were you, I'd do what ever kind of landing you are
> the most comfortable with......they all work.
>
> Rich Crosley
> RV-8 N948RC
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--> RV8-List message posted by: Joel Harding <cajole76@ispwest.com>
Nic,
Maybe the answer to getting that "feel" is vortex generators. There
has been some discussion in the past about reduced stall speeds and
improved stability, but it would be interesting to find out if they
improve the feel in the flare. Anyone have first hand experience to
share?
Joel Harding
On Jan 6, 2006, at 6:43 AM, Nic wrote:
> --> RV8-List message posted by: "Nic" <Nic@skyhi.flyer.co.uk>
>
> Rich, I totally agree - I have recently started flying my RV8 and
> previously
> spent my time in an S1S in which although the vision is far less,
> holds and
> flares beautifully.
>
> I can only describe the RV8 landings as being without "feel", and
> basically
> disappointing so far.
>
> It is good to hear an honest opinion of your experiences, far too
> often the
> lists are not very forthcoming on the shortfalls of what is
> otherwise a
> great little aircraft.
>
> Rgds, Nic
>
>>
>> I have 125 hours in my RV-8 and my experience is that it is somewhat
>> difficult to make consistently good landings. Now, to avoid, all
>> the name
>> calling this is only my experience and I may not be the best pilot
>> on the
>> net and I'm an old guy (60). I have about 500 hours in Cessna
>> 120,140 and
>> 170's and 300 in a Christen Eagle and before that I was a Navy jet
>> guy. I
>> make full stall landings all the time because I want to be slower,
>> rather
>> than faster and avoid the transition to tail down. Again just my
>> opinion.
>> The RV-8 may have a little bit of blocking the tail at slow speeds
>> and
> full
>> flaps, don't know. Try, watching RV's land and it seems that the "8"
>> doesn't make as smooth a landing as the other tail dragging RV's.
>> Could
> be
>> the gear design or CG or what ever, but if you watch a 100 RV
>> landings
> that
>> seems to be the case. They are not unsafe landing, just not as
>> smooth. I
>> have tried less flaps, more power, no power it is just a little
>> harder to
>> make grease them-on-landings all the time. I think that in the
>> Christen
>> Eagle it was easier to make consistent good landings and you
>> couldn't see
>> the runway in it. It frustrates the heck out of me not to be able
>> to make
>> good landings all the time. Maybe more time or someone else will
>> have the
>> magic cure. But, if I were you, I'd do what ever kind of landing
>> you are
>> the most comfortable with......they all work.
>>
>> Rich Crosley
>> RV-8 N948RC
>
>
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