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| Subject: | Re: RV8-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 03/26/06 |
--> RV8-List message posted by: "Nic" <Nic@skyhi.flyer.co.uk>
Mickey,
Hi there - my empty Cofg is 77" aft, with a tail weight of 50lbs and an
empty of 1112lbs.
My battery is in the baggage bay and works very well, however I am now
considering a move to the rear position ( which should add 10 lbs to the
tail ) and I will carry ballast when it is gusty or very windy.
I hope you are progressing well with your 8.
Best Rgds, Nic
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> Total Messages Posted Sun 03/26/06: 3
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> 1. 11:22 AM - Fw: NoseOver - nearly ! (Nic)
> 2. 12:06 PM - Re: Fw: NoseOver - nearly ! (Mickey Coggins)
> 3. 01:58 PM - Re: Fw: NoseOver - nearly ! (Joel Harding)
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> Time: 11:22:49 AM PST US
> From: "Nic" <Nic@skyhi.flyer.co.uk>
> Subject: RV8-List: Fw: NoseOver - nearly !
>
> --> RV8-List message posted by: "Nic" <Nic@skyhi.flyer.co.uk>
>
> A gusty 20-25 knot wind quartering on the tail swung my RV8 badly today
> whilst I was backtracking solo on our grass strip.
>
> In order to keep the trusty RV from swinging off the runway I applied a
dab
> of opposite brake, at which point the tailwheel lifted dramatically and
the
> aircraft came within a hairs breath of nosing right onto the ground. Only
a
> very quick reduction in power to idle stopped a very expensive prang.
>
> I was then unable to move the aircraft without help ! With a passenger and
> rearward cofg I would have been able to keep the plane straight with dabs
of
> brake and full rudder without the danger of nosing over, but solo it was
> another matter.
>
> I have heard that some pilots refrain from power checks because of
nose-over
> problems when operating solo, but I wondered if anyone had experienced
high
> tailwind / crosswind problems when taxiing.
>
> Any suggestions and assistance appreciated. Rgds, Nic
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 12:06:42 PM PST US
> From: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> Subject: Re: RV8-List: Fw: NoseOver - nearly !
>
> --> RV8-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
>
> > I was then unable to move the aircraft without help ! With a passenger
and
> > rearward cofg I would have been able to keep the plane straight with
dabs of
> > brake and full rudder without the danger of nosing over, but solo it was
> > another matter.
> >
> > I have heard that some pilots refrain from power checks because of
nose-over
> > problems when operating solo, but I wondered if anyone had experienced
high
> > tailwind / crosswind problems when taxiing.
> >
> > Any suggestions and assistance appreciated. Rgds, Nic
>
> Wow - pretty scary. Just out of curiosity, what are your W&B numbers?
>
> Are they in http://www.rvproject.com/wab/ ? (it's down now, but I'm
> sure it will be back online soon)
>
> You may want to also post over on
> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=6
>
> and http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RV-8/
>
> Lots of good people with flying RV8s (unlike me) on both groups.
>
> --
> Mickey Coggins
> http://www.rv8.ch/
> #82007 finishing
>
>
> do not archive
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> ________________________________ Message 3
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> Time: 01:58:58 PM PST US
> From: Joel Harding <cajole76@ispwest.com>
> Subject: Re: RV8-List: Fw: NoseOver - nearly !
>
> --> RV8-List message posted by: Joel Harding <cajole76@ispwest.com>
>
> Nic,
> I can see that operating on a grass strip would put you in a bit of a
> box because of the increased power requirement for taxi. I really
> haven't had any problems so far, but I haven't operated from any
> grass strips either.
> I'm curious where you had the elevator positioned during this ordeal,
> and how you think it affected the outcome? I guess theoretically if
> the power is near idle the stick should be forward, but at some point
> as you increase the power and it overcomes the effect of the tailwind
> you should reverse it, but I don't know of any good way to tell when
> that would be, other than the tail lifting off.
>
>
> Joel Harding
> On Mar 26, 2006, at 12:18 PM, Nic wrote:
>
> > --> RV8-List message posted by: "Nic" <Nic@skyhi.flyer.co.uk>
> >
> > A gusty 20-25 knot wind quartering on the tail swung my RV8 badly
> > today
> > whilst I was backtracking solo on our grass strip.
> >
> > In order to keep the trusty RV from swinging off the runway I
> > applied a dab
> > of opposite brake, at which point the tailwheel lifted dramatically
> > and the
> > aircraft came within a hairs breath of nosing right onto the
> > ground. Only a
> > very quick reduction in power to idle stopped a very expensive prang.
> >
> > I was then unable to move the aircraft without help ! With a
> > passenger and
> > rearward cofg I would have been able to keep the plane straight
> > with dabs of
> > brake and full rudder without the danger of nosing over, but solo
> > it was
> > another matter.
> >
> > I have heard that some pilots refrain from power checks because of
> > nose-over
> > problems when operating solo, but I wondered if anyone had
> > experienced high
> > tailwind / crosswind problems when taxiing.
> >
> > Any suggestions and assistance appreciated. Rgds, Nic
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV8-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 03/26/06 |
--> RV8-List message posted by: "Tom Schad" <schad@cooke.net>
My RV-8 is a little light in the tail, so I added a 40 pound bag of floor
sweep to the rear baggage compartment plus my tool bag, some survival stuff
and anything else I want to lug along. Oh yes, the battery is in the rear
position also. It helped on the landings. To date, I haven't had the
problem with the wind, but maybe the conditions weren't right. Tom Schad
N558TX
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nic" <Nic@skyhi.flyer.co.uk>
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 12:22 PM
Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV8-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 03/26/06
> --> RV8-List message posted by: "Nic" <Nic@skyhi.flyer.co.uk>
>
> Mickey,
>
> Hi there - my empty Cofg is 77" aft, with a tail weight of 50lbs and an
> empty of 1112lbs.
>
> My battery is in the baggage bay and works very well, however I am now
> considering a move to the rear position ( which should add 10 lbs to the
> tail ) and I will carry ballast when it is gusty or very windy.
>
> I hope you are progressing well with your 8.
>
> Best Rgds, Nic
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "RV8-List Digest Server" <rv8-list-digest@matronics.com>
> To: "RV8-List Digest List" <rv8-list-digest@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 8:57 AM
> Subject: RV8-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 03/26/06
>
>
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>> ==================================================
>>
>> Today's complete RV8-List Digest can also be found in either of the
>> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
>> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
>> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
>> of the RV8-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
>> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>>
>> HTML Version:
>>
>>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv8-list/Digest.RV8-List.2006-03-26.html
>>
>> Text Version:
>>
>>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv8-list/Digest.RV8-List.2006-03-26.txt
>>
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>> Total Messages Posted Sun 03/26/06: 3
>>
>>
>> Today's Message Index:
>> ----------------------
>>
>> 1. 11:22 AM - Fw: NoseOver - nearly ! (Nic)
>> 2. 12:06 PM - Re: Fw: NoseOver - nearly ! (Mickey Coggins)
>> 3. 01:58 PM - Re: Fw: NoseOver - nearly ! (Joel Harding)
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 11:22:49 AM PST US
>> From: "Nic" <Nic@skyhi.flyer.co.uk>
>> Subject: RV8-List: Fw: NoseOver - nearly !
>>
>> --> RV8-List message posted by: "Nic" <Nic@skyhi.flyer.co.uk>
>>
>> A gusty 20-25 knot wind quartering on the tail swung my RV8 badly today
>> whilst I was backtracking solo on our grass strip.
>>
>> In order to keep the trusty RV from swinging off the runway I applied a
> dab
>> of opposite brake, at which point the tailwheel lifted dramatically and
> the
>> aircraft came within a hairs breath of nosing right onto the ground. Only
> a
>> very quick reduction in power to idle stopped a very expensive prang.
>>
>> I was then unable to move the aircraft without help ! With a passenger
>> and
>> rearward cofg I would have been able to keep the plane straight with dabs
> of
>> brake and full rudder without the danger of nosing over, but solo it was
>> another matter.
>>
>> I have heard that some pilots refrain from power checks because of
> nose-over
>> problems when operating solo, but I wondered if anyone had experienced
> high
>> tailwind / crosswind problems when taxiing.
>>
>> Any suggestions and assistance appreciated. Rgds, Nic
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 12:06:42 PM PST US
>> From: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
>> Subject: Re: RV8-List: Fw: NoseOver - nearly !
>>
>> --> RV8-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
>>
>> > I was then unable to move the aircraft without help ! With a passenger
> and
>> > rearward cofg I would have been able to keep the plane straight with
> dabs of
>> > brake and full rudder without the danger of nosing over, but solo it
>> > was
>> > another matter.
>> >
>> > I have heard that some pilots refrain from power checks because of
> nose-over
>> > problems when operating solo, but I wondered if anyone had experienced
> high
>> > tailwind / crosswind problems when taxiing.
>> >
>> > Any suggestions and assistance appreciated. Rgds, Nic
>>
>> Wow - pretty scary. Just out of curiosity, what are your W&B numbers?
>>
>> Are they in http://www.rvproject.com/wab/ ? (it's down now, but I'm
>> sure it will be back online soon)
>>
>> You may want to also post over on
>> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=6
>>
>> and http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RV-8/
>>
>> Lots of good people with flying RV8s (unlike me) on both groups.
>>
>> --
>> Mickey Coggins
>> http://www.rv8.ch/
>> #82007 finishing
>>
>>
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 3
> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 01:58:58 PM PST US
>> From: Joel Harding <cajole76@ispwest.com>
>> Subject: Re: RV8-List: Fw: NoseOver - nearly !
>>
>> --> RV8-List message posted by: Joel Harding <cajole76@ispwest.com>
>>
>> Nic,
>> I can see that operating on a grass strip would put you in a bit of a
>> box because of the increased power requirement for taxi. I really
>> haven't had any problems so far, but I haven't operated from any
>> grass strips either.
>> I'm curious where you had the elevator positioned during this ordeal,
>> and how you think it affected the outcome? I guess theoretically if
>> the power is near idle the stick should be forward, but at some point
>> as you increase the power and it overcomes the effect of the tailwind
>> you should reverse it, but I don't know of any good way to tell when
>> that would be, other than the tail lifting off.
>>
>>
>> Joel Harding
>> On Mar 26, 2006, at 12:18 PM, Nic wrote:
>>
>> > --> RV8-List message posted by: "Nic" <Nic@skyhi.flyer.co.uk>
>> >
>> > A gusty 20-25 knot wind quartering on the tail swung my RV8 badly
>> > today
>> > whilst I was backtracking solo on our grass strip.
>> >
>> > In order to keep the trusty RV from swinging off the runway I
>> > applied a dab
>> > of opposite brake, at which point the tailwheel lifted dramatically
>> > and the
>> > aircraft came within a hairs breath of nosing right onto the
>> > ground. Only a
>> > very quick reduction in power to idle stopped a very expensive prang.
>> >
>> > I was then unable to move the aircraft without help ! With a
>> > passenger and
>> > rearward cofg I would have been able to keep the plane straight
>> > with dabs of
>> > brake and full rudder without the danger of nosing over, but solo
>> > it was
>> > another matter.
>> >
>> > I have heard that some pilots refrain from power checks because of
>> > nose-over
>> > problems when operating solo, but I wondered if anyone had
>> > experienced high
>> > tailwind / crosswind problems when taxiing.
>> >
>> > Any suggestions and assistance appreciated. Rgds, Nic
>> >
>> >
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