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1. 04:09 AM - Re: rear seat throttle (glen matejcek)
2. 08:49 AM - Re: rear seat throttle (The Bennetts)
3. 02:41 PM - Forward Baggage Mounted Battery (Dan Beadle)
4. 04:45 PM - Re: Forward Baggage Mounted Battery (Terry Watson)
5. 04:48 PM - Re: Forward Baggage Mounted Battery (MIke)
6. 07:40 PM - Re: rear seat throttle (Tom Scherder)
7. 07:47 PM - Re: rear seat throttle (Tom Scherder)
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| Subject: | RE: rear seat throttle |
--> RV8-List message posted by: "glen matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
Hi Michele-
I thought about different ways of putting in a full set of controls in
back. I couldn't come up with anything I considered really practical so I
just went with the throttle and trims. The addition that would be most
valuable would probably be brakes, and of course that would be a bit of an
engineering feat.
-
Listers,
I am considering installing the full three lever deluxe quadrant for the
rear seat of my RV8 - any suggestions? Gus says it would interfere with the
rear pilot's left leg?? The link would be a straight rod for the throttle
lever, push/pull type cables for the other two.
Comments anyone?
Thanks,
Michele
glen matejcek
aerobubba@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Re: rear seat throttle |
--> RV8-List message posted by: "The Bennetts" <gbennett92b@sbcglobal.net>
Thank you Tom, FINALLY someone admits the reality of weight control in
an airplane! I always laugh when I hear folks discussing doing this & that
to cut down an ounce here and an ounce there in their homebuilt, all the
while they carry the first step in weight control in their midsections.....
I am NO exception, probably 30 lbs worth.......Our RV8A will also have all
the IFR bells and whistles, damn the weight full speed ahead!!!!! Gary
Bennett
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 5:49 PM
> --> RV8-List message posted by: "Tom Scherder" <tomscherder@hotmail.com>
>
> ALL OF THE ABOVE AND WE LOVE IT
> My RV8 has a rear seat throttle, prop control, and mixture as well as
> trims,
> flap and full GPS. I'm 6 ft tall and weight 204 and I have no problem
> flying
> from the back. I learned to land from the back which made front seat
> landings a breeze since the rear rudders are less responsive than the
> front.
> My wife is learning to (pinch hit )from the back in case she may have to
> fly
> someday if I should become ill or worse. There are good things about
> keeping
> it light and all but my BABY needs all the good stuff I can put in. If
> weight becomes a problem I should lose 20 pounds.
> Tom Scherder N38NE
> flying-100hrs
> ----- Original Message -----
> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 11:11 AM
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>> --> RV8-List message posted by: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol?
> <michele.delsol@microsigma.fr>
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>> I know, I know, I tend to over do things. My initial intention was to
> grant
>> the rear seat pilot full flying capabilities in case, I, the front pilot,
>> passed out or something similar. In a side by side airplane, there is an
>> built in safety feature if the other person has piloting skill. In the 8,
>> all the rear pilot has is a stick. But then one can add things such as
>> the
>> throttle, or the throttle and prop, rear pedals, a flap switch, a trim
>> switch (both disconnectable from the pilot's seat). Then there could be
>> basic instrumentation such as air speed, altitude, a backup radio, a
> backup
>> GPS...
>>
>> Anyone gone that route?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Michele - RV8 Fuselage.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Schattauer
>> Sent: lundi 3 juillet 2006 15:39
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>> --> RV8-List message posted by: "Paul Schattauer" <chasm711@msn.com>
>>
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>> Miche'le
>>
>> A three control quadrant in the aft seat will look good but is it really
>> practical? The front seat will always have a pilot in it. The aft seat
>> pilot will not have a good view of any mixture instrumentation, will not
> be
>> able to start the engine, and will have no need to shut down the engine.
>> The prop control is a little more useful but you have a voice activated
> one
>> built in. My experience has been that flying from the rear seat is
>> limited
>> to demonstrations for new/prospective pilots and friends. No serious
> flying
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>> is done back there. On the other hand whatever you like best is always
> the
>> best idea.
>>
>> Paul Schattauer
>> RV8 808PS
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>> >From: Michle Delsol <michele.delsol@microsigma.fr>
>> >To: <rv8-list@matronics.com>
>> >Subject: RE: RV8-List: rear seat throttle
>> >Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 09:18:01 +0200
>> >
>> >--> RV8-List message posted by: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol?
>> ><michele.delsol@microsigma.fr>
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>> >Listers,
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>> >I am considering installing the full three lever deluxe quadrant for the
>> >rear seat of my RV8 - any suggestions? Gus says it would interfere with
> the
>> >rear pilot's left leg?? The link would be a straight rod for the
>> >throttle
>> >lever, push/pull type cables for the other two.
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>> >Comments anyone?
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >Michele
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >[mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of michael
>> >christmann
>> >Sent: dimanche 2 juillet 2006 13:52
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>> >--> RV8-List message posted by: "michael christmann"
>> ><michaelfly@earthlink.net>
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>> >I would like to install a throttle in the rear cockpit. I understand
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>> >Any experience with this installation?
>> >Michael Christmann
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| Subject: | Forward Baggage Mounted Battery |
I have heard that several folks have mounted the battery in the lower
forward baggage compartment. From my CG calculations, that is a good place
for mine.
Does anyone have suggestions on how to do this? Pictures would be great.
Thanks
Dan Beadle
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| Subject: | Forward Baggage Mounted Battery |
Don,
Here's a reference to Todd Rudberg's site. He sells a batter box kit for
mounting the battery inside the forward baggage compartment, on the floor.
http://www.rvwoody.com/battbox.html
Terry
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[mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beadle
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 2:36 PM
I have heard that several folks have mounted the battery in the lower
forward baggage compartment. From my CG calculations, that is a good place
for mine.
Does anyone have suggestions on how to do this? Pictures would be great.
Thanks
Dan Beadle
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| Subject: | Re: Forward Baggage Mounted Battery |
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beadle
To: rv8-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 5:35 PM
Subject: RV8-List: Forward Baggage Mounted Battery
I have heard that several folks have mounted the battery in the lower
forward baggage compartment. From my CG calculations, that is a good
place for mine.
Does anyone have suggestions on how to do this? Pictures would be
great.
Thanks
Dan Beadle
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| Subject: | Re: rear seat throttle |
Gary,
Great reply. My flying buddy weighs 240 and I go 204.The great thing about
the RV8 is that we both fit just fine., even when we're flying to a new
airport restaurant. With 200 HP+ and a constant speed prop the little sky
dancer jumps off the runway in about 300 ft and cruises 22/24 at 160 kts.
Top speed at altitude is 194mph.The plane still came in at 1128 lbs with an
ostrich leather interior complete with side panels and rear armrests. We are
full IFR 2 GPS's and unless your stomach is a lot more stable than mine you
won't push the 6 G limit all that much. Keep pounding the rivets , it' all
worth it!
Tom
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 11:46 AM
> --> RV8-List message posted by: "The Bennetts" <gbennett92b@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Thank you Tom, FINALLY someone admits the reality of weight control
in
> an airplane! I always laugh when I hear folks discussing doing this &
that
> to cut down an ounce here and an ounce there in their homebuilt, all the
> while they carry the first step in weight control in their
midsections.....
> I am NO exception, probably 30 lbs worth.......Our RV8A will also have all
> the IFR bells and whistles, damn the weight full speed ahead!!!!! Gary
> Bennett
> ----- Original Message -----
> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 5:49 PM
>
>
> > --> RV8-List message posted by: "Tom Scherder" <tomscherder@hotmail.com>
> >
> > ALL OF THE ABOVE AND WE LOVE IT
> > My RV8 has a rear seat throttle, prop control, and mixture as well as
> > trims,
> > flap and full GPS. I'm 6 ft tall and weight 204 and I have no problem
> > flying
> > from the back. I learned to land from the back which made front seat
> > landings a breeze since the rear rudders are less responsive than the
> > front.
> > My wife is learning to (pinch hit )from the back in case she may have to
> > fly
> > someday if I should become ill or worse. There are good things about
> > keeping
> > it light and all but my BABY needs all the good stuff I can put in. If
> > weight becomes a problem I should lose 20 pounds.
> > Tom Scherder N38NE
> > flying-100hrs
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 11:11 AM
> >
> >
> >> --> RV8-List message posted by: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol?
> > <michele.delsol@microsigma.fr>
> >>
> >> I know, I know, I tend to over do things. My initial intention was to
> > grant
> >> the rear seat pilot full flying capabilities in case, I, the front
pilot,
> >> passed out or something similar. In a side by side airplane, there is
an
> >> built in safety feature if the other person has piloting skill. In the
8,
> >> all the rear pilot has is a stick. But then one can add things such as
> >> the
> >> throttle, or the throttle and prop, rear pedals, a flap switch, a trim
> >> switch (both disconnectable from the pilot's seat). Then there could be
> >> basic instrumentation such as air speed, altitude, a backup radio, a
> > backup
> >> GPS...
> >>
> >> Anyone gone that route?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Michele - RV8 Fuselage.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Schattauer
> >> Sent: lundi 3 juillet 2006 15:39
> >>
> >> --> RV8-List message posted by: "Paul Schattauer" <chasm711@msn.com>
> >>
> >>
> >> Miche'le
> >>
> >> A three control quadrant in the aft seat will look good but is it
really
> >> practical? The front seat will always have a pilot in it. The aft
seat
> >> pilot will not have a good view of any mixture instrumentation, will
not
> > be
> >> able to start the engine, and will have no need to shut down the
engine.
> >> The prop control is a little more useful but you have a voice activated
> > one
> >> built in. My experience has been that flying from the rear seat is
> >> limited
> >> to demonstrations for new/prospective pilots and friends. No serious
> > flying
> >>
> >> is done back there. On the other hand whatever you like best is always
> > the
> >> best idea.
> >>
> >> Paul Schattauer
> >> RV8 808PS
> >>
> >>
> >> >From: Michle Delsol <michele.delsol@microsigma.fr>
> >> >To: <rv8-list@matronics.com>
> >> >Subject: RE: RV8-List: rear seat throttle
> >> >Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 09:18:01 +0200
> >> >
> >> >--> RV8-List message posted by: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol?
> >> ><michele.delsol@microsigma.fr>
> >> >
> >> >Listers,
> >> >
> >> >I am considering installing the full three lever deluxe quadrant for
the
> >> >rear seat of my RV8 - any suggestions? Gus says it would interfere
with
> > the
> >> >rear pilot's left leg?? The link would be a straight rod for the
> >> >throttle
> >> >lever, push/pull type cables for the other two.
> >> >
> >> >Comments anyone?
> >> >
> >> >Thanks,
> >> >Michele
> >> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >[mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of michael
> >> >christmann
> >> >Sent: dimanche 2 juillet 2006 13:52
> >> >
> >> >--> RV8-List message posted by: "michael christmann"
> >> ><michaelfly@earthlink.net>
> >> >
> >> >I would like to install a throttle in the rear cockpit. I understand
> >> >that
> >> >Vans has a drawing and looked at Spruce's throttle offers.
> >> >Any experience with this installation?
> >> >Michael Christmann
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| Subject: | Re: rear seat throttle |
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 11:11 AM
> --> RV8-List message posted by: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol?
<michele.delsol@microsigma.fr>
>
> I know, I know, I tend to over do things. My initial intention was to
grant
> the rear seat pilot full flying capabilities in case, I, the front pilot,
> passed out or something similar. In a side by side airplane, there is an
> built in safety feature if the other person has piloting skill. In the 8,
> all the rear pilot has is a stick. But then one can add things such as the
> throttle, or the throttle and prop, rear pedals, a flap switch, a trim
> switch (both disconnectable from the pilot's seat). Then there could be
> basic instrumentation such as air speed, altitude, a backup radio, a
backup
> GPS...
>
> Anyone gone that route?
>
> Thanks,
> Michele - RV8 Fuselage.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Schattauer
> Sent: lundi 3 juillet 2006 15:39
>
> --> RV8-List message posted by: "Paul Schattauer" <chasm711@msn.com>
>
>
> Miche'le
>
> A three control quadrant in the aft seat will look good but is it really
> practical? The front seat will always have a pilot in it. The aft seat
> pilot will not have a good view of any mixture instrumentation, will not
be
> able to start the engine, and will have no need to shut down the engine.
> The prop control is a little more useful but you have a voice activated
one
> built in. My experience has been that flying from the rear seat is limited
> to demonstrations for new/prospective pilots and friends. No serious
flying
>
> is done back there. On the other hand whatever you like best is always
the
> best idea.
>
> Paul Schattauer
> RV8 808PS
>
>
> >From: Michle Delsol <michele.delsol@microsigma.fr>
> >To: <rv8-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: RE: RV8-List: rear seat throttle
> >Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 09:18:01 +0200
> >
> >--> RV8-List message posted by: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol?
> ><michele.delsol@microsigma.fr>
> >
> >Listers,
> >
> >I am considering installing the full three lever deluxe quadrant for the
> >rear seat of my RV8 - any suggestions? Gus says it would interfere with
the
> >rear pilot's left leg?? The link would be a straight rod for the throttle
> >lever, push/pull type cables for the other two.
> >
> >Comments anyone?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Michele
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >[mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of michael
> >christmann
> >Sent: dimanche 2 juillet 2006 13:52
> >
> >--> RV8-List message posted by: "michael christmann"
> ><michaelfly@earthlink.net>
> >
> >I would like to install a throttle in the rear cockpit. I understand that
> >Vans has a drawing and looked at Spruce's throttle offers.
> >Any experience with this installation?
> >Michael Christmann
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