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1. 06:11 AM - Re: RV8- Dimple Question (Speedy11@aol.com)
2. 09:26 AM - Re: Re: RV8- Dimple Question (japhillipsga@aol.com)
3. 09:32 AM - Re: RV8-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 05/23/07 (japhillipsga@aol.com)
4. 09:34 AM - Re: Re: RV8- Dimple Question (japhillipsga@aol.com)
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Bill of Georgia,
You're not exactly getting your question answered, are you?
I do recall that there are about 5 rivets on each side that have the shop
head on the outside of the fuselage. I thought it a bit strange at the time,
but since mine is a QB, I assumed the Phillipinos had done it right.
My hard drive crashed, so the photos I had of the plans was lost, but I will
look at Dwg 28A at the shop today and confirm the info for you. In fact,
I'll take a photo to send you.
The Van's RV-8A builder's manual is sadly inadequate. I jokingly say it
says, "Build wing. Attach wing."
I wish Van's would rewrite it to be like the new RV-10 manual, but that is
unlikely.
Stan Sutterfield
_www.rv-8a.net_ (http://www.rv-8a.net)
Hello RV-8a builders, I am deburring and dimpling the fuselage. Am I
reading 28a (28) correct ? Are there five 470 rivets on each side that
have the working ends exposed on the bottom ? They are at bulkhead 804.
Further, does that mean that the remainder of the rivets along the
bottom longren forward of 804 have the working ends inside the cockpit ?
Also, is there something simple (paper, plan {other that Van's} written
words, diagram, etc.) that shows or explains precisely which holes are
dimpled, their directions and whether to counter sink or dimple ? Such a
aid would really be valuable. Hope to hear from someone before I screw
up again , Best regards, Bill of Georgia
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Stan, thanks for the info. Yes, I think if you have already built an 8a the
plans would probably be clear and sufficient, but to a slow county boy they
border on Greek in some ways. I found a photo I took at S n F of a 8a bottom
and it shows a fiberglass cover for the landing gear that covers the 5 rive
t heads so I can see now they are hidden, Best regards, Bill
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From: Speedy11@aol.com
Sent: Thu, 24 May 2007 9:10 am
Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Dimple Question
Bill of Georgia,
You're not exactly getting your question answered, are you?
I do recall that there are about 5 rivets on each side that have the shop he
ad on the outside of the fuselage.=C2- I thought it a bit strange at the t
ime, but since mine is a QB, I assumed the Phillipinos had done it right.
My hard drive crashed, so the photos I had of the plans was lost, but I will
look at=C2-Dwg 28A=C2-at the shop today and confirm the info for you.
=C2- In fact, I'll take a photo to send you.
The Van's RV-8A builder's manual is sadly inadequate.=C2- I jokingly say i
t says, "Build wing.=C2- Attach wing."
I wish Van's would rewrite it to be like the new RV-10 manual, but that is u
nlikely.
Stan Sutterfield
www.rv-8a.net
=C2-
=C2- Hello RV-8a builders, I am deburring and dimpling the fuselage. Am I
reading 28a (28) correct ? Are there five 470 rivets on each side that
have the working ends exposed on the bottom ? They are at bulkhead 804.
Further, does that mean that the remainder of the rivets along the
bottom longren forward of 804 have the working ends inside the cockpit ?
Also, is there something simple (paper, plan {other that Van's} written
words, diagram, etc.) that shows or explains precisely which holes are
dimpled, their directions and whether to counter sink or dimple ? Such a
aid would really be valuable. Hope to hear from someone before I screw
up again , Best regards, Bill of Georgia
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Heath, thanks for the info. I'll start marking more. maybe I'll finally eliminate
enough holes, one at a time, to be confident I'm correct. best regards, Bill
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1. 10:03 AM - Re: Re: RV8- Dimple Question (Heath Cherneski)
2. 06:21 PM - Re: Re: RV8- Dimple Question (dick martin)
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From: "Heath Cherneski" <heath.cherneski@gmail.com> Subject: Re: RV8-List: Re:
RV8- Dimple Question
Bill of Georgia, the idea is to follow the rivet plan (can't remeber the
plans number) and only dimple those holes that call for a counter sunk
rivet. the 470 rivets will be covered by the wing and do not need to be
countersunk. i drove all rivets from the outside of the fuse, bucking on
the inside. you might want to circle the group of holes that do not get
dimpled ( i did as a reminder) so you don't have to spend time double,
triple and qusdruple checking the plans. good luck and happy rivetting! Heath
N818HC Enterprise, Alabama
On 5/21/07, japhillipsga@aol.com <japhillipsga@aol.com> wrote:
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> Hello RV-8a builders, I am deburring and dimpling the fuselage. Am I
> reading 28a (28) correct ? Are there five 470 rivets on each side that have
> the working ends exposed on the bottom ? They are at bulkhead 804. Further,
> does that mean that the remainder of the rivets along the bottom
longrenforward of 804 have the working ends inside the cockpit ? Also, is there
> something simple (paper, plan {other that Van's} written words, diagram,
> etc.) that shows or explains precisely which holes are dimpled, their
> directions and whether to counter sink or dimple ? Such a aid would really
> be valuable. Hope to hear from someone before I screw up again , Best
> regards, Bill of Georgia
>
>
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Time: 06:21:49 PM PST US
From: "dick martin" <martin@gbonline.com> Subject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Dimple
Question
Bill
95% of the rivets in the RV airplanes require dimpling. The few that
need countersinking will be obvious.
Note: there are ok dimple dies and there are GOOD dimple dies. I had
best luck with the spring back dies from Avery and Cleveland.
Dick Martin
RV8 N233M the fast one
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From: japhillipsga@aol.com To: rv8-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007
8:32 AM
Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Dimple Question
Hello RV-8a builders, I am deburring and dimpling the fuselage. Am I
reading 28a (28) correct ? Are there five 470 rivets on each side that
have the working ends exposed on the bottom ? They are at bulkhead 804.
Further, does that mean that the remainder of the rivets along the
bottom longren forward of 804 have the working ends inside the cockpit ?
Also, is there something simple (paper, plan {other that Van's} written
words, diagram, etc.) that shows or explains precisely which holes are
dimpled, their directions and whether to counter sink or dimple ? Such a
aid would really be valuable. Hope to hear from someone before I screw
up again , Best regards, Bill of Georgia
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May 2007 2:57 AM
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Dick, thanks for the info. I'll have to look into the spring type dies. Best
regards, Bill
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From: dick martin <martin@gbonline.com>
Sent: Wed, 23 May 2007 9:10 pm
Subject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Dimple Question
Bill
=C2-
95% of the rivets in the RV airplanes require dimpling.=C2- The few that n
eed countersinking will be obvious.
Note:=C2- there are ok dimple dies and there are GOOD dimple dies.=C2- I
had best luck with the spring back dies from Avery and Cleveland.
=C2-
Dick Martin
RV8 N233M
the fast one
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From: japhillipsga@aol.com
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 8:32 AM
Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Dimple Question
Hello RV-8a builders, I am deburring and dimpling the fuselage. Am I reading
28a (28) correct ? Are there five 470 rivets on each side that have the wor
king ends exposed on the bottom ? They are at bulkhead 804.=C2-Further, do
es that mean that the remainder of the rivets along the bottom longren forwa
rd of 804 have the working ends inside the cockpit ?=C2-=C2-Also, is the
re something simple (paper, plan {other that Van's}=C2-written words, diag
ram, etc.) that shows or explains precisely which holes are dimpled, their d
irections and whether to counter sink or dimple ? Such a aid would really be
valuable. Hope to hear from someone before I screw up again , Best regards,
Bill of Georgia=C2-=C2-
=C2-
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