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Subject: | RE: RV8-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 06/18/07 |
I'm about to start riveting the right elevator skin to the stiffners on
my RV-8 project. Next will be the elevator skeleton.
The plans call for significant trimming of the elevator lead
counterweights.
Anybody have any good advice for me on the best way to do this?
Right now I am thinking of marking the weight as per the plans and using
my band saw to cut out the major block and then either smooth the edges
with the 3M wheel or a file or a combo.
Also, the plans suggest back riveting the stiffners to the skin. I found
that increasingly hard to do on the rudder as I got closer to the
trailing edge fold.
Have heard two alternative suggestions to forcing the back rivet process
into the narrow area. One was to use the pop-rivets and the other was to
use a slim bucking bar and set those difficult rivets from the skin
side.
Advice is welcome.
Thanks,
Gail Peck
Nellis AFB, NV
Gaillard.peck.ctr@nellis.af.mil or gtwestern@aol.com
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Subject: | RE: RV8-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 06/18/07 |
Just mount them with the bolts for now....Later you can take a large
drill bit and drill several holes in the lead to remove material until
the elevators balance. After they are painted you will not notice the
holes....
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[mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peck Gaillard
R Ctr USAFWS/CBD Training
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 9:56 AM
Subject: RV8-List: RE: RV8-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 06/18/07
Training" <gaillard.peck.ctr@nellis.af.mil>
I'm about to start riveting the right elevator skin to the stiffners on
my RV-8 project. Next will be the elevator skeleton.
The plans call for significant trimming of the elevator lead
counterweights.
Anybody have any good advice for me on the best way to do this?
Right now I am thinking of marking the weight as per the plans and using
my band saw to cut out the major block and then either smooth the edges
with the 3M wheel or a file or a combo.
Also, the plans suggest back riveting the stiffners to the skin. I found
that increasingly hard to do on the rudder as I got closer to the
trailing edge fold.
Have heard two alternative suggestions to forcing the back rivet process
into the narrow area. One was to use the pop-rivets and the other was to
use a slim bucking bar and set those difficult rivets from the skin
side.
Advice is welcome.
Thanks,
Gail Peck
Nellis AFB, NV
Gaillard.peck.ctr@nellis.af.mil or gtwestern@aol.com
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Subject: | RE: RV8-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 06/18/07 |
Gail,
1. How quickly one forgets these things... I spent a while googling
for ideas on how to do the shaping of the counter weight too. In the
end I used a saw, a course file, and a bunch of patience. Here's what
I wrote in my blog about it: http://blog.jason.hills.org/blog/
_archives/2006/10/2/2382197.html
2. I was able to back rivet all of the rivets for the stiffiners on
both elevators. Assuming you haven't bent the trailing edge yet
(should not have done that yet), go ahead and gently pry it open wide
enough to get the rivet gun all the way back there. I did it after an
experienced RV builder showed me, and assured me I wasn't going to
hurt anything, as it seemed like I was really prying on things to get
in there. After you've done a few it doesn't seem too bad. I did the
tightest two rivets on each stiffener last. I started my whole RV-8
project with the right elevator, so I did this on my first real day
of building, but I didn't write anything interesting about doing the
back riveting in my blog (http://blog.jason.hills.org/blog/_archives/
2006/9/30/2376912.html).
...Jason Hills
RV-8 (wings)
On Jun 19, 2007, at 7:56 AM, Peck Gaillard R Ctr USAFWS/CBD Training
wrote:
> Training" <gaillard.peck.ctr@nellis.af.mil>
>
> I'm about to start riveting the right elevator skin to the
> stiffners on
> my RV-8 project. Next will be the elevator skeleton.
>
> The plans call for significant trimming of the elevator lead
> counterweights.
> Anybody have any good advice for me on the best way to do this?
>
> Right now I am thinking of marking the weight as per the plans and
> using
> my band saw to cut out the major block and then either smooth the
> edges
> with the 3M wheel or a file or a combo.
>
> Also, the plans suggest back riveting the stiffners to the skin. I
> found
> that increasingly hard to do on the rudder as I got closer to the
> trailing edge fold.
>
> Have heard two alternative suggestions to forcing the back rivet
> process
> into the narrow area. One was to use the pop-rivets and the other
> was to
> use a slim bucking bar and set those difficult rivets from the skin
> side.
>
> Advice is welcome.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gail Peck
> Nellis AFB, NV
> Gaillard.peck.ctr@nellis.af.mil or gtwestern@aol.com
>
>
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