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Tue 06/19/07


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 07:57 AM - Re: RV8-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 06/18/07 (Peck Gaillard R Ctr USAFWS/CBD Training)
     2. 08:18 AM - Re: Re: RV8-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 06/18/07 (Mike Reid)
     3. 08:53 AM - Re: Re: RV8-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 06/18/07 (Jason Hills)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:57:18 AM PST US
    Subject: RE: RV8-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 06/18/07
    From: "Peck Gaillard R Ctr USAFWS/CBD Training" <gaillard.peck.ctr@nellis.af.mil>
    I'm about to start riveting the right elevator skin to the stiffners on my RV-8 project. Next will be the elevator skeleton. The plans call for significant trimming of the elevator lead counterweights. Anybody have any good advice for me on the best way to do this? Right now I am thinking of marking the weight as per the plans and using my band saw to cut out the major block and then either smooth the edges with the 3M wheel or a file or a combo. Also, the plans suggest back riveting the stiffners to the skin. I found that increasingly hard to do on the rudder as I got closer to the trailing edge fold. Have heard two alternative suggestions to forcing the back rivet process into the narrow area. One was to use the pop-rivets and the other was to use a slim bucking bar and set those difficult rivets from the skin side. Advice is welcome. Thanks, Gail Peck Nellis AFB, NV Gaillard.peck.ctr@nellis.af.mil or gtwestern@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV8-List Digest Server Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:58 PM Subject: RV8-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 06/18/07 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete RV8-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the RV8-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Cha pter 07-06-18&Archive=RV8 Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chap ter 07-06-18&Archive=RV8 =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- RV8-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 06/18/07: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ----------------------


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    Time: 08:18:35 AM PST US
    From: "Mike Reid" <mikereid1@charter.net>
    Subject: RE: RV8-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 06/18/07
    Just mount them with the bolts for now....Later you can take a large drill bit and drill several holes in the lead to remove material until the elevators balance. After they are painted you will not notice the holes.... -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peck Gaillard R Ctr USAFWS/CBD Training Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 9:56 AM Subject: RV8-List: RE: RV8-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 06/18/07 Training" <gaillard.peck.ctr@nellis.af.mil> I'm about to start riveting the right elevator skin to the stiffners on my RV-8 project. Next will be the elevator skeleton. The plans call for significant trimming of the elevator lead counterweights. Anybody have any good advice for me on the best way to do this? Right now I am thinking of marking the weight as per the plans and using my band saw to cut out the major block and then either smooth the edges with the 3M wheel or a file or a combo. Also, the plans suggest back riveting the stiffners to the skin. I found that increasingly hard to do on the rudder as I got closer to the trailing edge fold. Have heard two alternative suggestions to forcing the back rivet process into the narrow area. One was to use the pop-rivets and the other was to use a slim bucking bar and set those difficult rivets from the skin side. Advice is welcome. Thanks, Gail Peck Nellis AFB, NV Gaillard.peck.ctr@nellis.af.mil or gtwestern@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV8-List Digest Server Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:58 PM Subject: RV8-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 06/18/07 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete RV8-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the RV8-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Cha pter 07-06-18&Archive=RV8 Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chap ter 07-06-18&Archive=RV8 =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- RV8-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 06/18/07: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ----------------------


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    Time: 08:53:20 AM PST US
    From: Jason Hills <jason@hills.org>
    Subject: RE: RV8-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 06/18/07
    Gail, 1. How quickly one forgets these things... I spent a while googling for ideas on how to do the shaping of the counter weight too. In the end I used a saw, a course file, and a bunch of patience. Here's what I wrote in my blog about it: http://blog.jason.hills.org/blog/ _archives/2006/10/2/2382197.html 2. I was able to back rivet all of the rivets for the stiffiners on both elevators. Assuming you haven't bent the trailing edge yet (should not have done that yet), go ahead and gently pry it open wide enough to get the rivet gun all the way back there. I did it after an experienced RV builder showed me, and assured me I wasn't going to hurt anything, as it seemed like I was really prying on things to get in there. After you've done a few it doesn't seem too bad. I did the tightest two rivets on each stiffener last. I started my whole RV-8 project with the right elevator, so I did this on my first real day of building, but I didn't write anything interesting about doing the back riveting in my blog (http://blog.jason.hills.org/blog/_archives/ 2006/9/30/2376912.html). ...Jason Hills RV-8 (wings) On Jun 19, 2007, at 7:56 AM, Peck Gaillard R Ctr USAFWS/CBD Training wrote: > Training" <gaillard.peck.ctr@nellis.af.mil> > > I'm about to start riveting the right elevator skin to the > stiffners on > my RV-8 project. Next will be the elevator skeleton. > > The plans call for significant trimming of the elevator lead > counterweights. > Anybody have any good advice for me on the best way to do this? > > Right now I am thinking of marking the weight as per the plans and > using > my band saw to cut out the major block and then either smooth the > edges > with the 3M wheel or a file or a combo. > > Also, the plans suggest back riveting the stiffners to the skin. I > found > that increasingly hard to do on the rudder as I got closer to the > trailing edge fold. > > Have heard two alternative suggestions to forcing the back rivet > process > into the narrow area. One was to use the pop-rivets and the other > was to > use a slim bucking bar and set those difficult rivets from the skin > side. > > Advice is welcome. > > Thanks, > > Gail Peck > Nellis AFB, NV > Gaillard.peck.ctr@nellis.af.mil or gtwestern@aol.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV8-List > Digest Server > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:58 PM > To: RV8-List Digest List > Subject: RV8-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 06/18/07 > > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete RV8-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest > formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked > Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII > version > of the RV8-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php? > Style=82701&View=html&Cha > pter 07-06-18&Archive=RV8 > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php? > Style=82701&View=txt&Chap > ter 07-06-18&Archive=RV8 > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > RV8-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Mon 06/18/07: 0 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > >




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