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Mon 02/11/08


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 06:38 AM - Re: RV-8a Wing Mounting (Valovich, Paul)
     2. 07:20 AM - Re: RV-8a Wing Mounting (Paul Rice)
     3. 07:48 AM - RV-8a Wing Mounting  (George Inman 204 287 8334)
     4. 07:52 AM - Re: RV-8a Wing Mounting (glen matejcek)
     5. 01:50 PM - Re: RV8-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/10/08 (loringsrv8@comcast.net)
     6. 04:07 PM - Re: RV-8a Wing Mounting ()
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:38:07 AM PST US
    From: "Valovich, Paul" <pvalovich@dcscorp.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-8a Wing Mounting
    Three bodies to do my wings.. Drift pins, Boelube, hardware store bolts, re member to provide dihedral (someone lifting the wingtip) to get final bolts aligned. Use "persuasion". Digital level and measured a bunch of times. E nded up +/- 0.1 degree - or so. When drilling aft spar, make sure drill did n't slip off intended location (ask me how I know ). 4 plumb bobs and a las er line work great for eliminating sweep. After getting wings on, don't for get the bottom nut plates and wing fairings - may have to adjust fuselage a lignment on cradle to provide access. Bottom line - follow Vans instruction s - including the download from the website. Booger N192NM


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    Time: 07:20:26 AM PST US
    From: Paul Rice <rice737@msn.com>
    Subject: RV-8a Wing Mounting
    Also, you may want to put your bolts in the freezer overnight to help get t hem in, it is a very tight fit. Getting them out is fun too. I also under drilled my rear spare so that after my first flight I could move the aft s par up or down to off set a heavy wing. Luckily, I didn't have to, it flew straight and level first time, so I just brought them up to size and insta lled the proper bolts. Paul Rice RV8 60 hours flying fun From: pvalovich@dcscorp.comTo: rv8-list@matronics.comDate: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 09:34:58 -0500Subject: Re: RV8-List: RV-8a Wing Mounting Three bodies to do my wings.. Drift pins, Boelube, hardware store bolts, re member to provide dihedral (someone lifting the wingtip) to get final bolts aligned. Use =93persuasion=94. Digital level and measured a bunch of times . Ended up +/- 0.1 degree ' or so. When drilling aft spar, make sure dri ll didn=92t slip off intended location (ask me how I know ). 4 plumb bobs a nd a laser line work great for eliminating sweep. After getting wings on, d on=92t forget the bottom nut plates and wing fairings ' may have to adjus t fuselage alignment on cradle to provide access. Bottom line ' follow Va ns instructions ' including the download from the website. Booger N192NM


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    Time: 07:48:52 AM PST US
    From: George Inman 204 287 8334 <ghinman@mts.net>
    Subject: RV-8a Wing Mounting
    Fellow Builders, I'm about to mount my wings for the first time. Any of you fellows got any good tips for success and happiness? Is there a best side to mount first? When fitting is it recommended to install all eight bolts in the main spar ? Hope to hear something and best regards, Bill of Georgia Bill I made alignment pins by forming a point on some store bought bolts. Buy some store bought 7/16' bolts to mount the wings temporary. You will remove the wings at least once to attach platenuts after match drilling the holes where fuselage meets wing at bottom. If you have the Quickbuild make sure they did not put rivets where you will put platenuts.remove them before first mounting of wings. When final mounting ,the close tolerance bolts are a tight fit.I taped them in with a brass hammer and a bucking bar on the opposite side.I also used some LP lubricant. I had three people to hold the wing while I taped in bolts. I installed the bolts from rear,because you cannot insert bottom bolts from forward. I do not think there is a reason to mount a side first. Any questions feel free to send me an E-Mail -- George H. Inman ghinman@mts.net


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    Time: 07:52:37 AM PST US
    From: "glen matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
    Subject: RE: RV-8a Wing Mounting
    Hi Bill- I'm chipping away at an 8, not an 8A, but I don't think there are any differences in mounting the wings. I believe the only drivers for picking an installation order are logistics. IE, what are the physical constraints in the assembly location that will make one assembly order preferential over another? I had no trouble installing the wings with the aid of one other person. Once the wings were in place and pinned, I did all the rest myself. Also, I didn't install any of the bolts. They are cad plated expensive bolts, and I didn't want to necessarily damage the plating or threads. Also, the ends are fairly square and don't lend themselves to being used to align the holes very well. Consequently, I got an appropriate variety and number of hardware store bolts and ground them all to drift pins. That allowed me to use them to coax the final alignment of the wings and to verify that all the bolt holes lined up at the same time. The lack of edge distance in the rear attach hardware limits how much wiggle room you have rigging the wings. You probably will need very little, anyway. One thing I discovered in this process was the number of inaccuracies in my QB kit. The canopy rails aren't parallel, which was cause for me to scratch my head trying to set / determine the true fuselage attitude. Likewise, the planar section of the aft upper surface of the wing really isn't all that planar. I ended up averaging the values for the canopy rails as well as taking a reading adjacent to each wing rib, writing it at each station, and averaging them. This gave me a 'fudge factor' to apply to the raw reading at the station where the rigging measurements were taken. FWIW- glen matejcek aerobubba@earthlink.net > > Fellow Builders, I'm about to mount my wings for the first time. Any of you > fellows got any good tips for success and happiness? Is there a best side to > mount first? When fitting is it recommended to install all eight bolts in the > main spar ? Hope to hear something and best regards, Bill of Georgia


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    Time: 01:50:33 PM PST US
    From: loringsrv8@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: RV8-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/10/08
    Hi Bill, If you use 'hardware store' bolts for fitting make sure you take your mic. with you. Sometimes they are oversize. For final assy. use Lubriplate. Seems to work best. Check your NAS bolts in their carrythrough spar holes before test assy. so that you will know that there are no problems. If there are, it will likely be misalignment of the F-804Cs (my experience on a QB; both sides). Art Loring, Jr RV-8 QB O-320 CS 35 HRs. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: RV8-List Digest Server <rv8-list@matronics.com> > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete RV8-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the RV8-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 0 > 8-02-10&Archive=RV8 > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 08 > -02-10&Archive=RV8 > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > RV8-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Sun 02/10/08: 1 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 05:11 PM - Re: RV-8a Wing Mounting (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 05:11:07 PM PST US > From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com > Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV-8a Wing Mounting > > Fellow Builders, I'm about to mount my wings for the first time. Any of you > fellows got any good tips for success and happiness? Is there a best side to > mount first? When fitting is it recommended to install all eight bolts in the > main spar ? Hope to hear something and best regards, Bill of Georgia > > > ************** > Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300000002 > 548) > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:07:52 PM PST US
    Subject: RV-8a Wing Mounting
    From: <ulf@megadoor.com>
    My bolts had both boelube and freezer visit and they went in extremy hard. If you have an RV 8A DO NOT DRIVE THE BOLTS ALL THE WAY IN BEFORE YOU PUT ON THE NUT. It was hard to get them in but it was ten times harder to get them out so you could get the nu on. Otherwise a piece of cake HA HA. Ulf -----Original Message----- From: Paul Rice <rice737@msn.com> Subj: RE: RV8-List: RV-8a Wing Mounting Size: 1K Also, you may want to put your bolts in the freezer overnight to help get them in, it is a very tight fit. Getting them out is fun too. I also under drilled my rear spare so that after my first flight I could move the aft spar up or down to off set a heavy wing. Luckily, I didn't have to, it flew straight and level first time, so I just brought them up to size and installed the proper bolts. Paul Rice RV8 60 hours flying fun From: pvalovich@dcscorp.com Subject: Re: RV8-List: RV-8a Wing Mounting




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