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3. 10:22 AM - Re: RV-8a Wing Mounting (japhillipsga@aol.com)
4. 10:24 AM - Re: RV-8a Wing Mounting (japhillipsga@aol.com)
5. 10:42 AM - Re: RV-8a Wing Mounting (japhillipsga@aol.com)
6. 12:04 PM - Re: Re: RV8-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/10/08 (japhillipsga@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: RV-8a Wing Mounting |
George, thanks for the info. When you were test fitting did you install the four
smaller size bolts per wing as well as the four 7/16 bolts? Bill
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From: George Inman 204 287 8334 <ghinman@mts.net>
Sent: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:43 am
Subject: RV8-List: RV-8a Wing Mounting
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Fellow Builders, I'm about to mount my wings for the first time. Any of you fellows
got any good tips for success and happiness? Is there a best side to mount
first? When fitting is it recommended to install all eight bolts in the main
spar ? Hope to hear something and best regards, Bill of Georgia?
?
? Bill?
? I made alignment pins by forming a point on some?
store bought bolts.?
? Buy some store bought 7/16' bolts to mount the wings?
temporary.?
? You will remove the wings at least once to attach?
platenuts after match drilling the holes where fuselage?
meets wing at bottom.?
? If you have the Quickbuild make sure they did not?
put rivets where you will put platenuts.remove them?
before first mounting of wings.?
?When final mounting ,the close tolerance bolts are?
a tight fit.I taped them in with a brass hammer and a?
bucking bar on the opposite side.I also used some?
LP lubricant.?
? I had three people to hold the wing while I taped in bolts.?
?I installed the bolts from rear,because you cannot?
insert bottom bolts from forward.?
?I do not think there is a reason to mount a side first.?
?Any questions feel free to send me an E-Mail?
?
-- ?
George H. Inman?
ghinman@mts.net?
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| Subject: | Re: RE: RV-8a Wing Mounting |
Glen, thanks for the info. I appreciate you taking the time to response and I'll
keep what you said in mind. I hope to mount them sat if I can get a crew together
to assist. Thanks again, Bill
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-----Original Message-----
From: glen matejcek <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
Sent: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:48 am
Subject: RV8-List: RE: RV-8a Wing Mounting
Hi Bill-
I'm chipping away at an 8, not an 8A, but I don't think there are any
differences in mounting the wings.
I believe the only drivers for picking an installation order are logistics.
IE, what are the physical constraints in the assembly location that will
make one assembly order preferential over another?
I had no trouble installing the wings with the aid of one other person.
Once the wings were in place and pinned, I did all the rest myself.
Also, I didn't install any of the bolts. They are cad plated expensive
bolts, and I didn't want to necessarily damage the plating or threads.
Also, the ends are fairly square and don't lend themselves to being used to
align the holes very well. Consequently, I got an appropriate variety and
number of hardware store bolts and ground them all to drift pins. That
allowed me to use them to coax the final alignment of the wings and to
verify that all the bolt holes lined up at the same time.
The lack of edge distance in the rear attach hardware limits how much
wiggle room you have rigging the wings. You probably will need very
little, anyway. One thing I discovered in this process was the number of
inaccuracies in my QB kit. The canopy rails aren't parallel, which was
cause for me to scratch my head trying to set / determine the true fuselage
attitude. Likewise, the planar section of the aft upper surface of the
wing really isn't all that planar. I ended up averaging the values for the
canopy rails as well as taking a reading adjacent to each wing rib, writing
it at each station, and averaging them. This gave me a 'fudge factor' to
apply to the raw reading at the station where the rigging measurements were
taken.
FWIW-
glen matejcek
aerobubba@earthlink.net
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> Fellow Builders, I'm about to mount my wings for the first time. Any of
you
> fellows got any good tips for success and happiness? Is there a best
side to
> mount first? When fitting is it recommended to install all eight bolts in
the
> main spar ? Hope to hear something and best regards, Bill of Georgia
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| Subject: | Re: RV-8a Wing Mounting |
Dear Booger, I appreciate you taking the time to help with some info and you
r experience. I'll certainly keep what you said in mind. Hope to mount them
this Sat if I can get a crew together to assist. Where on the Van's website
do I look for these additional instructions ? Thanks again, Bill
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-----Original Message-----
From: Valovich, Paul <pvalovich@dcscorp.com>
Sent: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 9:34 am
Subject: Re: RV8-List: RV-8a Wing Mounting
Three bodies to do my wings.. Drift pins, Boelube, hardware store bolts, rem
ember to provide dihedral (someone lifting the wingtip) to get final bolts a
ligned. Use =9Cpersuasion=9D. Digital level and measured a bunch
of times. =C2-Ended up +/- 0.1 degree =93 or so. When drilling aft
spar, make sure drill didn=99t slip off intended location (ask me how
I know ). 4 plumb bobs and a laser line work great for eliminating sweep. Af
ter getting wings on, don=99t forget the bottom nut plates and wing fa
irings =93 may have to adjust fuselage alignment on cradle to provide
access. Bottom line =93 follow Vans instructions =93 including t
he download from the website.
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| Subject: | Re: RV-8a Wing Mounting |
Paul, thanks for the freezer idea. I'll certainly do as you suggest. I appre
ciate you taking the time to respond with you knowledge and experience. Than
ks again, Bill
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-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Rice <rice737@msn.com>
Sent: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:13 am
Subject: RE: RV8-List: RV-8a Wing Mounting
Also, you may want to put your bolts in the freezer overnight to help get th
em in, it is a very tight fit.=C2- Getting them out is fun too.=C2- I al
so under drilled my rear spare so that after my first flight I could move th
e aft spar up or down to off set a heavy wing.=C2- Luckily, I didn't have
to, it flew straight and level first time, so I just brought them up to size
and installed the proper bolts.=C2-
=C2-
Paul Rice
RV8
60 hours flying fun
From: pvalovich@dcscorp.com
Subject: Re: RV8-List: RV-8a Wing Mounting
Three bodies to do my wings.. Drift pins, Boelube, hardware store bolts, rem
ember to provide dihedral (someone lifting the wingtip) to get final bolts a
ligned. Use =9Cpersuasion=9D. Digital level and measured a bunch
of times. =C2-Ended up +/- 0.1 degree =93 or so. When drilling aft
spar, make sure drill didn=99t slip off intended location (ask me how
I know ). 4 plumb bobs and a laser line work great for eliminating sweep. Af
ter getting wings on, don=99t forget the bottom nut plates and wing fa
irings =93 may have to adjust fuselage alignment on cradle to provide
access. Bottom line =93 follow Vans instructions =93 including t
he download from the website.
Booger
N192NM
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| Subject: | Re: RV-8a Wing Mounting |
Dear Ulf, I appreciate you info and humor. Everything difficult in life is but
a challenge. I'll certainly keep what you said in mind. I hope to mount them Sat
if I can get a crew together. Thanks again, Bill
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-----Original Message-----
From: ulf@megadoor.com
Sent: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 7:04 pm
Subject: RE: RV8-List: RV-8a Wing Mounting
My bolts had both boelube and freezer visit and they went in extremy hard. If
you have an RV 8A DO NOT DRIVE THE BOLTS ALL THE WAY IN BEFORE YOU PUT ON THE
NUT.
It was hard to get them in but it was ten times harder to get them out so you
could get the nu on.
Otherwise a piece of cake HA HA.
Ulf
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From: Paul Rice <rice737@msn.com>
Subj: RE: RV8-List: RV-8a Wing Mounting
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Also, you may want to put your bolts in the freezer overnight to help get them
in, it is a very tight fit. Getting them out is fun too. I also under drilled my
rear spare so that after my first flight I could move the aft spar up or down to
off set a heavy wing. Luckily, I didn't have to, it flew straight and level
first time, so I just brought them up to size and installed the proper bolts.
Paul Rice
RV8
60 hours flying fun
From: pvalovich@dcscorp.com
Subject: Re: RV8-List: RV-8a Wing Mounting
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| Subject: | Re: RV8-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/10/08 |
Art, thanks for the info. I plan to mount them Sat if I can assemble a crew to
help. I appreciate your input, thanks, Bill
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-----Original Message-----
From: loringsrv8@comcast.net
Sent: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 2:35 pm
Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV8-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/10/08
Hi Bill,
If you use 'hardware store' bolts for fitting make sure you take your mic. with
you. Sometimes they are oversize. For final assy. use Lubriplate. Seems to
work best. Check your NAS bolts in their carrythrough spar holes before test
assy. so that you will know that there are no problems. If there are, it will
likely be misalignment of the F-804Cs (my experience on a QB; both sides).
Art Loring, Jr
RV-8 QB O-320 CS 35 HRs.
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> Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV-8a Wing Mounting
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> Fellow Builders, I'm about to mount my wings for the first time. Any of you
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> mount first? When fitting is it recommended to install all eight bolts in the
> main spar ? Hope to hear something and best regards, Bill of Georgia
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