---------------------------------------------------------- RV8-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 02/26/08: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:19 AM - Re: RV8a- Ailerion & Wing Tip Match (japhillipsga@aol.com) 2. 10:54 AM - Re: Re: RV8a- Ailerion & Wing Tip Match (Dan Checkoway) 3. 11:07 AM - Re: Re: RV8a- Ailerion & Wing Tip Match (japhillipsga@aol.com) 4. 11:13 AM - Re: Re: RV8a- Ailerion & Wing Tip Match (planecrazzy@wildblue.net) 5. 11:35 AM - Re: Re: RV8a- Ailerion & Wing Tip Match (Dan Checkoway) 6. 12:33 PM - Re: Re: RV8a- Ailerion & Wing Tip Match (manuel weber) 7. 09:30 PM - Re: Re: RV8a- Ailerion & Wing Tip Match (Jesse Laub) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:19:40 AM PST US Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV8a- Ailerion & Wing Tip Match From: japhillipsga@aol.com RV-8 Builders, I got a problem. I have the wings mounted on my 8a. I attached the ailerons and set them to the template provided by Van (cut out plywood). Added the flaps and with plenty of careful trimming they line up with the ailerons and fuselage bottom. All is well. Then I put on the fiberglass wing tips and they don't line up with the aileron. Sooooo. Do I go with the template or the wing tip ? I want the bird to fly right, but I also want it to look right. Hope to hear from some folks that have solved this problem. Thanks, Bill of Georgia -----Original Message----- From: RV8-List Digest Server Sent: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 2:57 am Subject: RV8-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 02/25/08 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete RV8-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the RV8-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. 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On my RV-7 (same wings as yours), I used the extended centerline that bisects the main wing rib tooling holes, and I made sure the ailerons' trailing edges were dead nuts on that extended line. More accurate technique imho. YMMV Sharpie www.rvproject.com ----- Original Message ----- From: japhillipsga@aol.com To: rv8-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:15 AM Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV8a- Ailerion & Wing Tip Match RV-8 Builders, I got a problem. I have the wings mounted on my 8a. I attached the ailerons and set them to the template provided by Van (cut out plywood). Added the flaps and with plenty of careful trimming they line up with the ailerons and fuselage bottom. All is well. Then I put on the fiberglass wing tips and they don't line up with the aileron. Sooooo. Do I go with the template or the wing tip ? I want the bird to fly right, but I also want it to look right. Hope to hear from some folks that have solved this problem. Thanks, Bill of Georgia -----Original Message----- From: RV8-List Digest Server To: RV8-List Digest List Sent: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 2:57 am Subject: RV8-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 02/25/08 * Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive Today's complete RV8-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the RV8-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. 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Thanks Bill -----Original Message----- From: Dan Checkoway Sent: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 1:50 pm Subject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV8a- Ailerion & Wing Tip Match I'm not a fan of the wood template.? It's a broad stroke on something that, imho, can be a lot more precise. ? On my RV-7 (same wings as yours), I used the extended centerline that bisects the main wing rib tooling holes, and I made sure the ailerons' trailing edges were dead nuts on that extended line.? More accurate technique imho.? YMMV ? Sharpie www.rvproject.com ----- Original Message ----- From: japhillipsga@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:15 AM Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV8a- Ailerion & Wing Tip Match RV-8 Builders, I got a problem. I have the wings mounted on my 8a. I attached the ailerons and set them to the template provided by Van (cut out plywood). Added the flaps and with plenty of careful trimming they line up with the ailerons and fuselage bottom. All is well. Then I put on the fiberglass wing tips and they don't line up with the aileron. Sooooo. Do I go with the template or the wing tip ? I want the bird to fly right, but I also want it to look right. Hope to hear from some folks that have solved this problem. Thanks, Bill of Georgia -----Original Message----- From: RV8-List Digest Server Sent: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 2:57 am Subject: RV8-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 02/25/08 * Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive Today's complete RV8-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the RV8-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 08-02-25&Archive=RV8 Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 08-02-25&Archive=RV8 ====================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive ====================== ---------------------------------------------------------- RV8-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 02/25/08: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV8-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV8-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:13:54 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV8a- Ailerion & Wing Tip Match From: planecrazzy@wildblue.net Bill, I had the same problem on my 8a. I went with the template. I had to split the wing tip ends and adjust to fit the ailerons. Results were ok. ray south caroline RV-8 Builders, I got a problem. I have the wings mounted on my 8a. I > attached the ailerons and set them to the template provided by Van (cut > out plywood). Added the flaps and with plenty of careful trimming they > line up with the ailerons and fuselage bottom. All is well. Then I put on > the fiberglass wing tips and they don't line up with the aileron. Sooooo. > Do I go with the template or the wing tip ? I want the bird to fly right, > but I also want it to look right. Hope to hear from some folks that have > solved this problem. Thanks, Bill of Georgia > > -----Original Message----- > From: RV8-List Digest Server > To: RV8-List Digest List > Sent: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 2:57 am > Subject: RV8-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 02/25/08 > > > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete RV8-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the RV8-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 08-02-25&Archive=RV8 > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 08-02-25&Archive=RV8 > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > RV8-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Mon 02/25/08: 0 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:35:48 AM PST US From: "Dan Checkoway" Subject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV8a- Ailerion & Wing Tip Match It may be. It has been a while. I honestly don't remember where I saw it or read about it. I think it was in the RV-7 construction manual. If memory serves, it mentioned that the wing profile template would be printed on the inside of the crate (it was not), and that an alternate method involves using the tooling holes. It may be mentioned on a Construction FAQ on Van's site. Don't hold me to that...check with Van's if you're unsure. In any case, YMMV, but this "priority" order of things worked great for me (my plane is no slouch speed-wise): 1. Set the ailerons precisely in trail. 2. Align the flaps to the ailerons. 3. Align the wing tips to the ailerons. 4. Rig the pushrods/bellcranks with the ailerons held exactly in trail. On a side-by-side RV (I know this is the RV-8 list, but I'm mentioning it regardless), make sure the elevators are rigged & clamped in trail while you rig your aileron pushrods & bellcranks. There's a "triangulation" effect on the side-by-side RVs since the aileron & elevator control movements are linked. Sharpie ----- Original Message ----- From: japhillipsga@aol.com To: rv8-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:03 AM Subject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV8a- Ailerion & Wing Tip Match Sharpie, is this centerline/deadnuts technique shown on the plans somewhere? Thanks Bill -----Original Message----- From: Dan Checkoway To: rv8-list@matronics.com Sent: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 1:50 pm Subject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV8a- Ailerion & Wing Tip Match I'm not a fan of the wood template. It's a broad stroke on something that, imho, can be a lot more precise. On my RV-7 (same wings as yours), I used the extended centerline that bisects the main wing rib tooling holes, and I made sure the ailerons' trailing edges were dead nuts on that extended line. More accurate technique imho. YMMV Sharpie www.rvproject.com ----- Original Message ----- From: japhillipsga@aol.com To: rv8-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:15 AM Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV8a- Ailerion & Wing Tip Match RV-8 Builders, I got a problem. I have the wings mounted on my 8a. I attached the ailerons and set them to the template provided by Van (cut out plywood). Added the flaps and with plenty of careful trimming they line up with the ailerons and fuselage bottom. All is well. Then I put on the fiberglass wing tips and they don't line up with the aileron. Sooooo. Do I go with the template or the wing tip ? I want the bird to fly right, but I also want it to look right. Hope to hear from some folks that have solved this problem. Thanks, Bill of Georgia -----Original Message----- From: RV8-List Digest Server To: RV8-List Digest List Sent: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 2:57 am Subject: RV8-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 02/25/08 * Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive Today's complete RV8-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the RV8-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html& Chapter 08-02-25&Archive=RV8 Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&C hapter 08-02-25&Archive=RV8 ====================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive ====================== ---------------------------------------------------------- RV8-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 02/25/08: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV8-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?RV8-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:33:58 PM PST US From: manuel weber Subject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV8a- Ailerion & Wing Tip Match Also remember that there is quite a bit of adjustment available when installing the wingtip. It can be joggled around to line up with just about anything... Manny japhillipsga@aol.com wrote: Sharpie, is this centerline/deadnuts technique shown on the plans somewhere? Thanks Bill -----Original Message----- From: Dan Checkoway Sent: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 1:50 pm Subject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV8a- Ailerion & Wing Tip Match I'm not a fan of the wood template. It's a broad stroke on something that, imho, can be a lot more precise. On my RV-7 (same wings as yours), I used the extended centerline that bisects the main wing rib tooling holes, and I made sure the ailerons' trailing edges were dead nuts on that extended line. More accurate technique imho. YMMV Sharpie www.rvproject.com ----- Original Message ----- From: japhillipsga@aol.com To: rv8-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:15 AM Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV8a- Ailerion & Wing Tip Match RV-8 Builders, I got a problem. I have the wings mounted on my 8a. I attached the ailerons and set them to the template provided by Van (cut out plywood). Added the flaps and with plenty of careful trimming they line up with the ailerons and fuselage bottom. All is well. Then I put on the fiberglass wing tips and they don't line up with the aileron. Sooooo. Do I go with the template or the wing tip ? I want the bird to fly right, but I also want it to look right. Hope to hear from some folks that have solved this problem. Thanks, Bill of Georgia -----Original Message----- From: RV8-List Digest Server Sent: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 2:57 am Subject: RV8-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 02/25/08 * Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive Today's complete RV8-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. 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Make Yahoo your homepage. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:30:14 PM PST US From: "Jesse Laub" Subject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV8a- Ailerion & Wing Tip Match Finishing up on my 8A QB and had the same problem. Talked to factory but they weren't much help. I think I recall the wing tips sometimes get distorted and use the template. I did get them close. We'll see when I fly. Jesse-Oregon painting ----- Original Message ----- From: japhillipsga@aol.com To: rv8-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:15 AM Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV8a- Ailerion & Wing Tip Match RV-8 Builders, I got a problem. I have the wings mounted on my 8a. I attached the ailerons and set them to the template provided by Van (cut out plywood). Added the flaps and with plenty of careful trimming they line up with the ailerons and fuselage bottom. All is well. Then I put on the fiberglass wing tips and they don't line up with the aileron. Sooooo. Do I go with the template or the wing tip ? I want the bird to fly right, but I also want it to look right. Hope to hear from some folks that have solved this problem. Thanks, Bill of Georgia -----Original Message----- From: RV8-List Digest Server To: RV8-List Digest List Sent: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 2:57 am Subject: RV8-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 02/25/08 * Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive Today's complete RV8-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the RV8-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. 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