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1. 04:04 AM - Re: RV8-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 08/04/08 (Speedy11@aol.com)
2. 10:09 AM - Pitot Head Location (Stan Loer)
3. 12:59 PM - BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment... (Matt Dralle)
4. 01:38 PM - Re: BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment... (James Gray)
5. 02:10 PM - Re: BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment... (Don McNamara)
6. 03:00 PM - Re: BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment... (Terry Watson)
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| Subject: | Re: RV8-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 08/04/08 |
I'm doing the same as Bill and I agree with him. Should I later need to
remove the wings it will be a simple matter to cut any connections and add in
a
connector.
Bill, how are you attaching your canopy? Are you using the Van's method or
are you gluing? I'm ready to start my canopy but I'm still debating which
method to use. Do you have a web site with photos of your canopy work?
Stan Sutterfield
_www.rv-8a.net_ (http://www.rv-8a.net)
Stan, I'm building a RV-8a and I'm not building in any type disconnect in
the wiring
for the wings.
?I built a Zenith 601XL a couple years ago and invested the time and effort
to
make disconnects
but it was a waste of effort. I have not even considered taking a wing off.
So,
you can do whatever
you want, but the usefulness is doubtful. I removed the wings on my 8 last
week
after
final fitting and stored them. Working and triming on the canopy right now.
Best
regards, Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: bert murillo <robertrv607@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:11 pm
Subject: RE: RV8-List: Wing Wiring/Plumbing
Every person has his own ideas. How wrong they are, is only when they
find themselves in the worst situation, and then is too late to correct
their wrong planning....
I wish I had done things different, when in comes to wiring and
connectors, to wings etc....
But do not believe it....
Robert
rv6a
--- On Sat, 8/2/08, Paul Rice <rice737@msn.com> wrote:
> From: Paul Rice <rice737@msn.com>
> Subject: RE: RV8-List: Wing Wiring/Plumbing
> To: rv8-list@matronics.com
> Date: Saturday, August 2, 2008, 9:42 PM
> Hey Stan,
>
> Having connectors and fittings sounds good in theory, but
> how often do you really thing you will need to remove your
> wings. If you really think you might have to do that in the
> future, just leave enough extra wire or plumbing so that you
> can cut it and put the connector in then. Getting the wing
> attach bolts out will be the hardest part of that type of
> project anyway.
>
> See you in the air soon,
> Paul Rice
> RV8 100 hours flying.
> If I ever have to remove my wings, wiring and plumbing will
> be the least of my problems.
>
>
>
> From: stazel@cpros.comTo: rv8-list@matronics.comSubject:
> RV8-List: Wing Wiring/PlumbingDate: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:46:08
> -0700
>
>
>
> Stan Loer
> RV-8 Q/B
> stazel@cpros.com
>
> I'm planning to install fittings and connectors in the
> wing roots so that pitot lines and wiring can be
> disconnected to facilitate wing removal/installation. Are
> there any photos out there which I could use to help me sort
> this out?
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| Subject: | Pitot Head Location |
Stan Loer
RV-8 Q/B Wings
stazel@cpros.com
Thanks all for the response re wiring wing root quick disconnects. Not
gonna do that. Next issue:
Need to relocate the pitot because I'm using the Dynon unit so I can get
AOA. Preference is to move location approx. 2.5 in. inboard. Major
benefit is not to have to route plumbing around aileron bellcrank and
still use existing rows of snap bushings. Rough sketches (very) lead me
to believe this position still remains outside the propwash cone. Guess
I'm looking for validation. Any comments?
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| Subject: | BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment... |
Listers,
Well, the trim tab came out perfect and I'm really pleased with the
mating to the Elevator. That being said, I'm less than pleased with
the for/aft alignment of the Trim Tab. The Trim Tab hangs past the
Elevator trailing edge by about 1/8" of an inch. It is 1/8" along
the whole distance of the Trim Tab. In looking at the cause, it
appears that the skins are all cut such that you are suppose to use
the roundy part of the hinge and not the square cutout when aligning
the hinge for drilling. This would account for 1/16" on each side
and would add up to the 1/8" overhang I'm seeing. Grrrrrr....
What should I do, fellow builders? I could drill out all the rivets
and use a new hinge, and I'm certainly not opposed to that. But am I
making too big a deal out of the whole thing? Or is everyone gonna
look at it forever and go, "Hey, how come your trim take is too long?" :-(
Bummed Out in Livermore
Matt
RV-8 #82880
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| Subject: | Re: BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment... |
Matt, my plans are at the hangar, so I can't check for sure, but my
guess is that your problem is with the gap / overlap of the hinge
itself, too much hinge is exposed. Take a look at this picture, and
you can probably see what I mean. Drill it out, get new hinge, line
the trailing edge of the elevator and trim tab up using a straight
edge, and drill it again.
Jim Gray
RV-8 N747JG Flying
,
On Aug 5, 2008, at 1:55 PM, Matt Dralle wrote:
>
> Listers,
>
> Well, the trim tab came out perfect and I'm really pleased with the
> mating to the Elevator. That being said, I'm less than pleased with
> the for/aft alignment of the Trim Tab. The Trim Tab hangs past the
> Elevator trailing edge by about 1/8" of an inch. It is 1/8" along
> the whole distance of the Trim Tab. In looking at the cause, it
> appears that the skins are all cut such that you are suppose to use
> the roundy part of the hinge and not the square cutout when aligning
> the hinge for drilling. This would account for 1/16" on each side
> and would add up to the 1/8" overhang I'm seeing. Grrrrrr....
>
> What should I do, fellow builders? I could drill out all the rivets
> and use a new hinge, and I'm certainly not opposed to that. But am
> I making too big a deal out of the whole thing? Or is everyone
> gonna look at it forever and go, "Hey, how come your trim take is
> too long?" :-(
>
> Bummed Out in Livermore
>
> Matt
> RV-8 #82880 <2008.08.02 - RV-8 Tail Kit - Trim Tab
> (10).jpg><2008.08.02 - RV-8 Tail Kit - Trim Tab (11).jpg><2008.08.02
> - RV-8 Tail Kit - Trim Tab (12).jpg>
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| Subject: | Re: BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment... |
Matt, I can assure you that, unless you're out to build a Grand Champion
winner at Oshkosh (not that there's anything wrong with that), don't sweat
it. The only people who will ever care will be YOU and those who have also
just started an empennage kit!
That said, this is only the beginning. You'll be screwing up pieces and
parts for a long time, so you might as well just order a new trim tab and
see if you can build it to match to your satisfaction. Like many builders,
I have a whole box of junk parts that I sweated blood over. You will, too.
No big deal.
If you know what you did wrong and want to correct it, now's the time to do
it. Order the parts, move on to something else and backtrack when the stuff
shows up.
Welcome to the club!
Don McNamara
N8RV
80113
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 3:55 PM
Subject: RV8-List: BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment...
>
> Listers,
>
> Well, the trim tab came out perfect and I'm really pleased with the
> mating to the Elevator. That being said, I'm less than pleased with
> the for/aft alignment of the Trim Tab. The Trim Tab hangs past the
> Elevator trailing edge by about 1/8" of an inch. It is 1/8" along
> the whole distance of the Trim Tab. In looking at the cause, it
> appears that the skins are all cut such that you are suppose to use
> the roundy part of the hinge and not the square cutout when aligning
> the hinge for drilling. This would account for 1/16" on each side
> and would add up to the 1/8" overhang I'm seeing. Grrrrrr....
>
> What should I do, fellow builders? I could drill out all the rivets
> and use a new hinge, and I'm certainly not opposed to that. But am I
> making too big a deal out of the whole thing? Or is everyone gonna
> look at it forever and go, "Hey, how come your trim take is too long?"
> :-(
>
> Bummed Out in Livermore
>
> Matt
> RV-8 #82880
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| Subject: | BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment... |
Matt,
Don's right, of course, but now that we all know what to look for we will
all be pointing at it and whispering about it. Maybe you could paint it red
and we wouldn't notice that it didn't line up.
I could probably line that sucker up with a big rubber mallet.
Terry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McNamara
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: RV8-List: BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment...
Matt, I can assure you that, unless you're out to build a Grand Champion
winner at Oshkosh (not that there's anything wrong with that), don't sweat
it. The only people who will ever care will be YOU and those who have also
just started an empennage kit!
That said, this is only the beginning. You'll be screwing up pieces and
parts for a long time, so you might as well just order a new trim tab and
see if you can build it to match to your satisfaction. Like many builders,
I have a whole box of junk parts that I sweated blood over. You will, too.
No big deal.
If you know what you did wrong and want to correct it, now's the time to do
it. Order the parts, move on to something else and backtrack when the stuff
shows up.
Welcome to the club!
Don McNamara
N8RV
80113
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