---------------------------------------------------------- RV8-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 08/10/08: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:41 PM - RV-8A Dwg 4PP (Elevator Dwg) (Garey Wittich) 2. 07:26 PM - Elevator Fiberglass Tip - Now What...? (Matt Dralle) 3. 07:51 PM - Re: RV-8A Dwg 4PP (Elevator Dwg) (Bill Johnson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:41:30 PM PST US From: Garey Wittich Subject: RV8-List: RV-8A Dwg 4PP (Elevator Dwg) Greetings: Does anybody have Drawing 4PP (RV8 Elevator)?? It is an "old" Dwg that came with my RV-8A Emphennage Kit about 7 years ago. Called Vans, but they do not have access to it = stored somewhere collecting dust. My Drawing 4PP is Revision 1. Does anybody have this drawing with a later revisions ??? If so could you share with me what the later revisions encompass. Just messed up my Left Elevator Skin, possibly by using old (not valid) dimensions - don't want to make this costly mistake again. Appreciate YOUR HELP, Garey Wittich Santa Monica, CA ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:26:46 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV8-List: Elevator Fiberglass Tip - Now What...? Dear Listers, First, thank you to everyone that has responded to my inquiry regarding filling the gaping holes behind the fiberglass tips on the Fin and Horz Stabs. You guys had some great ideas and I'm going to try some and see how it goes. In the meantime, I fit the fiberglass tip on the Right Elevator today and after notching out the tip to fit around the lead weight and beveling the outside edge of the tip, I got it to fit on very nicely. I plan to use the same platenut installation as I did on the rudder. Frankly, I can't believe that Van's recommends using pop rivets here since if the screw that holds the lead weight in place ever becomes loose, you'd have to ruin your paint job to get in and tighten it. Bah! Okay, so I got the tip on and then focused my attention to the front part that goes over the lead weight. Um, what a terrible design... Surly you don't just leave it like that? Even if I sand the fiberglass tip down to match the lead weight, there is still the issue of the "openness" of the tip. There is no way I can sand the tip and lead weight down to match the counterbalance skin. The fiberglass tip will be too thin right at the end. I really don't want to fiberglass all around the lead weight. It also seems like just about anything I do with respect to the fiberglass tip and "blending" it into the lead weight is going to lead to cracking down the road. I'm am just totally aghast at the "design" here. There just doesn't seem like an elegant way to finish this off. The proper design would have been, in my opinion, to make the lead weight smaller or a slightly different shape such that the fiberglass tip could simply be formed all the way around the lead weight. Kind of like on the Rudder. Arg... I just don't know what to do here. I really don't want to glass in the whole tip, particularly since I want it to be removable. Do I really just sand the tip down flush with the lead weight and call it "done"? You know, it seems ironic that the sheet metal stuff in the late-model kits is just so awesome. You can build a beautiful, perfectly straight empennage now in a way that just wasn't possible in the past. So now I have this awesome looking metal structure that I have to dork a crappy, poorly formed fiberglass tip to it. Its all just so disheartening... Please tell me there's a special trick or maybe a really nice after-market all metal hydroformed tip I can get to use instead...? Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:51:36 PM PST US From: "Bill Johnson" Subject: Re: RV8-List: RV-8A Dwg 4PP (Elevator Dwg) Garey, My 4PP Drawing is dated 3-21-96 with no revisions. It's for an RV-8. I don't know if the RV-8A is different or not. My RV-8 drawing shows 5 1/2 inch spacing between the stiffeners with the Elevator Trim Spar (E606) T-ing into the 4th stiffener. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garey Wittich" Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 4:40 PM Subject: RV8-List: RV-8A Dwg 4PP (Elevator Dwg) > > Greetings: > > Does anybody have Drawing 4PP (RV8 Elevator)?? It is an "old" Dwg that > came with my RV-8A Emphennage Kit about 7 years ago. Called Vans, but > they do not have access to it = stored somewhere collecting dust. My > Drawing 4PP is Revision 1. Does anybody have this drawing with a later > revisions ??? If so could you share with me what the later revisions > encompass. Just messed up my Left Elevator Skin, possibly by using old > (not valid) dimensions - don't want to make this costly mistake again. > > Appreciate YOUR HELP, Garey Wittich Santa Monica, CA > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv8-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV8-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv8-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv8-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.