---------------------------------------------------------- RV8-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 03/15/09: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:45 AM - Re: Grove brake resevoir (Dale Ellis) 2. 04:49 AM - Re: Grove brake resevoir (Dale Ellis) 3. 08:01 AM - Drilling hole in Precision Carburetor Throttle arm (Vincent Himsl) 4. 08:47 AM - Re: Drilling hole in Precision Carburetor Throttle arm (John Myers) 5. 09:17 AM - Re: Drilling hole in Precision Carburetor Throttle arm (Matt Dralle) 6. 09:42 AM - Re: Grove brake resevoir (Paul Rice) 7. 11:52 PM - Re: Drilling hole in Precision Carburetor Throttle arm (MARGHERITIS, ALEX F.) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:45:07 AM PST US From: Dale Ellis Subject: Re: RV8-List: Grove brake resevoir It sounds like I need to hang and rig the rudder before I try to make adjustments. Thanks, Dale -----Original Message----- >From: james d winkler >Sent: Mar 14, 2009 3:40 PM >To: rv8-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV8-List: Grove brake resevoir > > >unless your 7 feet tall i doubt you will ever use the forward stop . I'm >5,10 and I'm on the first stop, also note that when you connect the rudder >cables , the pedals tilt aft reducing the possibility of reservoir reaching >the firewall...j > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:49:09 AM PST US From: Dale Ellis Subject: RE: RV8-List: Grove brake resevoir Hi Paul. I am 6' 4" with and wear pants with 37" inseams. (And then my pants sometimes look like 'high water pants'!) I just know that I will need the rudder pedals in the full forward position. But from other comments, it sounds like I need to hang and rig the rudder before I get carried away with making changes. Thanks, Dale do not archive -----Original Message----- >From: Paul Rice >Sent: Mar 14, 2009 9:03 PM >To: rv8-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: RV8-List: Grove brake resevoir > > >Hey Dale, > > > >I have the same reservoirs. I'm 5'10" with and inseam of 32 inches, and have my adjustable peddles in the closest hole to me. This gives me just the right amount of knee bend and is very comfortable. So unless you are very tall with long legs, you probable will not be using the hole closest to the firewall. Good luck. > > > >Paul > >RV8 140 hours > >Flying Siren. > >> Subject: RV8-List: Grove brake resevoir >> From: rv8builder@earthlink.net >> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:06:41 -0700 >> To: rv8-list@matronics.com >> >> >> I have a RV-8 under construction and have installed the Grove brake reservoir on each brake master cylinder. It should be noted that I have the 'In-Flight' adjustable rudder pedals. With the pedals at the full forward position, the brake reservoirs do hit the firewall when the pedals are deflected. Has anyone come up with a way to mount the Grove reservoirs in this situation with out the reservoir hitting the firewall? Or do I have to just bit the bullet and install the leaky nylon tubing! >> >> Thanks in advance, >> Dale >> >> -------- >> Dale >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234560#234560 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >=========== >=========== >=========== >=========== >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:01:16 AM PST US From: Vincent Himsl Subject: RV8-List: Drilling hole in Precision Carburetor Throttle arm Hello=2C The Van's throttle and mixture cables do not have enough throw for my preci sion carburetor (Part of Aerosport package). The only option I have left is to drill another hole in the throttle and mixture arms at the carburetor t o increase the effectiveness of the throw I do have. I understand some metal parts are cast and drilling is a no-no. Has anyone been down this road? Your solution? Thanks=2C Vince H. rv8 N8432 RV8 "wrapping things up for inspection" _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to m eet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:47:05 AM PST US From: "John Myers" Subject: Re: RV8-List: Drilling hole in Precision Carburetor Throttle arm Vince, I had the same problem with the mixture cable. Even got a new cable from Van's. I think I remember that it had about an 1/8" greater travel but not much. Same problem with it after a major pain to replace it. Throttle cable was okay for my throttle linkage on the the MA4-5 that I have. I ended up adjusting the mixture cable linkage so that it would go to full idle cutoff. Turns out that my MA4-5 (10-3878) is so rich that it was not a problem at full rich position. My flow meter indicates it is putting almost 18 gph through it at (my) full rich/full power. I talked with Precision and they said no shorter mixture arm available. I suppose you could special order a cable with more travel and then possibly drill another hole in your throttle quadrant arm to give you more travel if it is needed, but it wasn't necessary for me. No help with your problem but one data point. John RV-8 N851JM ----- Original Message ----- From: Vincent Himsl To: rv8-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 9:57 AM Subject: RV8-List: Drilling hole in Precision Carburetor Throttle arm Hello, The Van's throttle and mixture cables do not have enough throw for my precision carburetor (Part of Aerosport package). The only option I have left is to drill another hole in the throttle and mixture arms at the carburetor to increase the effectiveness of the throw I do have. I understand some metal parts are cast and drilling is a no-no. Has anyone been down this road? Your solution? Thanks, Vince H. rv8 N8432 RV8 "wrapping things up for inspection" ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. Check it out. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:17:58 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Re: RV8-List: Drilling hole in Precision Carburetor Throttle arm Don't drill. Just order a new custom cable from Van's. They can have those green cables made in any length you want. If you haven't scratched or marred the original one, I bet Van's will take it back. Lead time on custom cables is short, like maybe a week or so. Matt At 07:57 AM 3/15/2009 Sunday, you wrote: >Hello, > >The Van's throttle and mixture cables do not have enough throw for my precision carburetor (Part of Aerosport package). The only option I have left is to drill another hole in the throttle and mixture arms at the carburetor to increase the effectiveness of the throw I do have. > >I understand some metal parts are cast and drilling is a no-no. Has anyone been down this road? Your solution? > >Thanks, >Vince H. >rv8 N8432 >RV8 "wrapping things up for inspection" > > >---------- >Windows Live Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. Check it out. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:42:20 AM PST US From: Paul Rice Subject: RE: RV8-List: Grove brake resevoir Well=2C you are quite tall=2C sounds like a good plan to set it all up befo re you make a final decision. Let us know how it goes. Paul > Date: Sun=2C 15 Mar 2009 07:45:41 -0400 > From: rv8builder@earthlink.net > To: rv8-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV8-List: Grove brake resevoir > > > Hi Paul. > > I am 6' 4" with and wear pants with 37" inseams. (And then my pants somet imes look like 'high water pants'!) I just know that I will need the rudder pedals in the full forward position. > > But from other comments=2C it sounds like I need to hang and rig the rudd er before I get carried away with making changes. > > Thanks=2C > Dale > do not archive > -----Original Message----- > >From: Paul Rice > >Sent: Mar 14=2C 2009 9:03 PM > >To: rv8-list@matronics.com > >Subject: RE: RV8-List: Grove brake resevoir > > > > > >Hey Dale=2C > > > > > > > >I have the same reservoirs. I'm 5'10" with and inseam of 32 inches=2C an d have my adjustable peddles in the closest hole to me. This gives me just the right amount of knee bend and is very comfortable. So unless you are ve ry tall with long legs=2C you probable will not be using the hole closest t o the firewall. Good luck. > > > > > > > >Paul > > > >RV8 140 hours > > > >Flying Siren. > > > >> Subject: RV8-List: Grove brake resevoir > >> From: rv8builder@earthlink.net > >> Date: Sat=2C 14 Mar 2009 12:06:41 -0700 > >> To: rv8-list@matronics.com > >> > > >> > >> I have a RV-8 under construction and have installed the Grove brake re servoir on each brake master cylinder. It should be noted that I have the ' In-Flight' adjustable rudder pedals. With the pedals at the full forward po sition=2C the brake reservoirs do hit the firewall when the pedals are defl ected. Has anyone come up with a way to mount the Grove reservoirs in this situation with out the reservoir hitting the firewall? Or do I have to just bit the bullet and install the leaky nylon tubing! > >> > >> Thanks in advance=2C > >> Dale > >> > >> -------- > >> Dale > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Read this topic online here: > >> > >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234560#234560 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >=========== > >=========== > >=========== > >=========== > >> > >> > >> > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:52:58 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV8-List: Drilling hole in Precision Carburetor Throttle arm From: "MARGHERITIS, ALEX F." Vince, I too had this problem. I drilled new holes just above the existing holes on the mixture and throttle levers at the quadrant. This gave me the throw I needed. Alex RV-8 N214MK 240hrs ________________________________ From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Myers Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: RV8-List: Drilling hole in Precision Carburetor Throttle arm Vince, I had the same problem with the mixture cable. Even got a new cable from Van's. I think I remember that it had about an 1/8" greater travel but not much. Same problem with it after a major pain to replace it. Throttle cable was okay for my throttle linkage on the the MA4-5 that I have. I ended up adjusting the mixture cable linkage so that it would go to full idle cutoff. Turns out that my MA4-5 (10-3878) is so rich that it was not a problem at full rich position. My flow meter indicates it is putting almost 18 gph through it at (my) full rich/full power. I talked with Precision and they said no shorter mixture arm available. I suppose you could special order a cable with more travel and then possibly drill another hole in your throttle quadrant arm to give you more travel if it is needed, but it wasn't necessary for me. No help with your problem but one data point. John RV-8 N851JM ----- Original Message ----- From: Vincent Himsl To: rv8-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 9:57 AM Subject: RV8-List: Drilling hole in Precision Carburetor Throttle arm Hello, The Van's throttle and mixture cables do not have enough throw for my precision carburetor (Part of Aerosport package). The only option I have left is to drill another hole in the throttle and mixture arms at the carburetor to increase the effectiveness of the throw I do have. I understand some metal parts are cast and drilling is a no-no. Has anyone been down this road? Your solution? 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