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1. 06:22 AM - Re: RV8-List Digest: Dynon & Transponders (japhillipsga@aol.com)
2. 08:49 AM - Re: Re: RV8-List Digest: Dynon & Transponders (Heath Cherneski)
3. 09:58 AM - Re: Re: RV8-List Digest: Dynon & Transponders (japhillipsga@aol.com)
4. 10:20 AM - Re: Re: RV8-List Digest: Dynon & Transponders (Craig Gallenbach)
5. 10:52 AM - Lights (Kopp, Kenneth G CDR HSM-70, N0 Exec Staff)
6. 12:08 PM - Re: Re: RV8-List Digest: Dynon & Transponders (japhillipsga@aol.com)
7. 02:03 PM - Re: Lights (Matt Dralle)
8. 02:30 PM - Re: Lights (james d winkler)
9. 04:19 PM - Re: Lights (Don McNamara)
10. 06:14 PM - Re: Lights (Matt Dralle)
11. 06:17 PM - Re: Lights (Matt Dralle)
12. 06:33 PM - Re: Lights (Robin Marks)
13. 07:09 PM - Re: Lights (Matt Dralle)
14. 08:30 PM - Re: Lights (Robin Marks)
15. 08:40 PM - Re: Lights (Don McNamara)
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Subject: | Re: RV8-List Digest: Dynon & Transponders |
Hello good folks, I am going?to buy a transponder for my RV-8a. My concerns are
that I plan to install a D100 & D120 with AP in my panel and I'm unsure which
transponders are not compatible. Anybody know where I can find this out? Best
regards, Bill of Georgia
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From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Subject: RV8-List: Carpet Pattern Ideas For RV-8 Foot wells...
Does anyone have some ideas and/or pictures of how they carpeted the passenger
foot wells on their RV-8? Specifically how they integrated it with the cabin
area carpet piece. I'm thinking of just a square hole cut out around the
parameter
of the foot well, then adding some sort of insert into the foot well itself.
That's a lot of weird angles, though.
Thanks!
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880
Ah, Carpet Pattern Making...
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Subject: | Re: RV8-List Digest: Dynon & Transponders |
Bill,
I have the d-100, d-120 combo and a garmin 327. works great. I think it
will be a challenge to find a transponder that won't work with dynon stuff.
garmin transponder is a great piece of equipment by the way and reasonably
priced. Good luck
Heath Cherneski
<mailto:heath.cherneski@gmail.com> heath.cherneski@gmail.com
<mailto:hchernes@utsi.edu> hchernes@utsi.edu
<mailto:heath.cherneski@us.army.mil> heath.cherneski@us.army.mil
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Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV8-List Digest: Dynon & Transponders
Hello good folks, I am going to buy a transponder for my RV-8a. My concerns
are that I plan to install a D100 & D120 with AP in my panel and I'm unsure
which transponders are not compatible. Anybody know where I can find this
out? Best regards, Bill of Georgia
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Time: 08:54:46 PM PST US
From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Subject: RV8-List: Carpet Pattern Ideas For RV-8 Foot wells...
Does anyone have some ideas and/or pictures of how they carpeted the
passenger
foot wells on their RV-8? Specifically how they integrated it with the
cabin
area carpet piece. I'm thinking of just a square hole cut out around the
parameter
of the foot well, then adding some sort of insert into the foot well itself.
That's a lot of weird angles, though.
Thanks!
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880
Ah, Carpet Pattern Making...
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Subject: | Re: RV8-List Digest: Dynon & Transponders |
Heath, thanks for the info. I'm not familiar with the 327, but I'll look
it up. I have a KY 76 in my XL that I fly now that is not fancy, but serv
es the purpose. I'm going to install the cheapest transponder I can find
in my 8a. The two Dynon system you have, do you have the AP system with
is as well ? I think that is a great leap forward in glasss. I am waiting
for my 0-360 and prop to arrive (early June) that I purchased through Van
s at SnF so I'm making my shopping list for the panel. I think Dynon is th
e best pop for the buck. Thanks, Bill
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Sent: Thu, 7 May 2009 11:46 am
Subject: RE: RV8-List: Re: RV8-List Digest: Dynon & Transponders
Bill,
I have the d-100, d-120 combo and a garmin 327.=C2- works great.=C2-
I think it will be a challenge to find a transponder that won=99t
work with dynon stuff.=C2- garmin transponder is a great piece of equip
ment by the way and reasonably priced.=C2- Good luck
=C2-
Heath Cherneski
heath.cherneski@gmail.com
hchernes@utsi.edu
heath.cherneski@us.army.mil
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Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV8-List Digest: Dynon & Transponders
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ncerns are that I plan to install20a D100 & D120 with AP in my panel and
I'm unsure which transponders are not compatible. Anybody know where I ca
n find this out? Best regards, Bill of Georgia
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Subject: | Re: RV8-List Digest: Dynon & Transponders |
Bill,
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I have a D100 & D120 in my 8A with a Garmin GTX 327.- They play well toge
ther.-
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I believe the installation manual listed several compatible xpndrs.- When
in doubt, call Dynon.- They were very responsive when I called them for
info.
-
Craig Gallenbach
RV8A 184CG- 58 hours
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Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV8-List Digest: Dynon & Transponders
Hello good folks, I am going-to buy a transponder for my RV-8a. My concer
ns are that I plan to install a D100 & D120 with AP in my panel and I'm uns
ure which transponders are not compatible. Anybody know where I can find th
is out? Best regards, Bill of Georgia
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Time: 08:54:46 PM PST US
From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Subject: RV8-List: Carpet Pattern Ideas For RV-8 Foot wells...
Does anyone have some ideas and/or pictures of how they carpeted the passen
ger
foot wells on their RV-8? Specifically how they integrated it with the cab
in
area carpet piece. I'm thinking of just a square hole cut out around the
parameter
of the foot well, then adding some sort of insert into the foot well itself
.
That's a lot of weird angles, though.
Thanks!
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880
Ah, Carpet Pattern Making...
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Fellow RV8 builders -
This is my first post (not sure it will even go through?). I'm complete with Emp/Wings,
awaiting my fuselage kit (mid June).
Looking at lighting options I'm shocked at the cost of postion/strob lights, particularly
the LED type.
Has anyone considered or is currently using automotive LED lighting?
Any other low cost options out there?
Thanks!
Ken
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Craig, thanks for the info.
do not archive
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Sent: Thu, 7 May 2009 1:16 pm
Subject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV8-List Digest: Dynon & Transponders
Bill,
?
I have a D100 & D120 in my 8A with a Garmin GTX 327.? They play well together.?
?
I believe the installation manual listed several compatible xpndrs.? When in doubt,
call Dynon.? They were very responsive when I called them for info.
?
Craig Gallenbach
RV8A 184CG? 58 hours
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Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV8-List Digest: Dynon & Transponders
Hello good folks, I am going?to buy a transponder for my RV-8a. My concerns are
that I plan to install a D100 & D120 with AP in my panel and I'm unsure which
transponders are not compatible. Anybody know where I can find this out? Best
regards, Bill of Georgia
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From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Subject: RV8-List: Carpet Pattern Ideas For RV-8 Foot wells...
Does anyone have some ideas and/or pictures of how they carpeted the passenger
foot wells on their RV-8? Specifically how they integrated it with the cabin
area carpet piece. I'm thinking of just a square hole cut out around the
parameter
of the foot well, then adding some sort of insert into the foot well itself.
That's a lot of weird angles, though.
Thanks!
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880
Ah, Carpet Pattern Making...
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At 10:50 AM 5/7/2009 Thursday, you wrote:
> Fellow RV8 builders -
>
>This is my first post (not sure it will even go through?). I'm complete with Emp/Wings,
awaiting my fuselage kit (mid June).
>
>Looking at lighting options I'm shocked at the cost of postion/strob lights, particularly
the LED type.
>
>Has anyone considered or is currently using automotive LED lighting?
>
>Any other low cost options out there?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Ken
>
Hi Ken and Welcome!
Wait until you start shopping for an engine... Try on $20-30k for basically what
is a VW Bug engine is enough to rankle anyone. Nothing's cheap in this hobby.
And just because its "aircraft quality" doesn't necessarily mean its good
quality or worth the premium cost. That's being said, most of the components
I've been getting on for the RV-8 project in circa 2009 are better overall quality
than the stuff I was getting in circa 1989 for the RV-4 project.
More specifically to your question, I think I paid something like $825 for the
Whelen 3-strobe setup with integrated incandescent position lights (Van's calls
it their "System 6"). Good quality throughout, smaller power supply than the
circa 1990s system, and it works as advertised.
Another thing to consider when choosing components is the resale implications.
If you ever go to sell your plane - finished or not - being able to say that
you have all the "standard", "aircraft-grade" components will allow you to demand
the highest possible price.
I look at it this way. This is a once-in-a-lifetime, $100k-$150k project that
I may never get another chance to do in my life. Might as well not compromise
on any aspects.
My $.02
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880
Laying Out Carpet Patterns in CAD...
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matt , when your finished with your carpet patterns , sell me a set...james
rv 8 n6830v
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Welcome!
Another thing to consider in the realm of strobes/nav lights is the recent
revelation on VAF that some people have had their wingtip lenses melt from
the heat of the incandescent nav lights (Whelen).
I haven't even flown yet and mine are already starting to melt, just from
testing them! So, before you whip out your Visa card and order the standard
Whelen strobe/nav light kit, consider the new LED nav lights. I'll be
buying them to replace my (brand new) incandescents.
Harrumph.
-- Don McNamara
N8RV
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Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: RV8-List: Lights
>
>
> At 10:50 AM 5/7/2009 Thursday, you wrote:
>> Fellow RV8 builders -
>>
>>This is my first post (not sure it will even go through?). I'm complete
>>with Emp/Wings, awaiting my fuselage kit (mid June).
>>
>>Looking at lighting options I'm shocked at the cost of postion/strob
>>lights, particularly the LED type.
>>
>>Has anyone considered or is currently using automotive LED lighting?
>>
>>Any other low cost options out there?
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Ken
>>
>
> Hi Ken and Welcome!
>
> Wait until you start shopping for an engine... Try on $20-30k for
> basically what is a VW Bug engine is enough to rankle anyone. Nothing's
> cheap in this hobby. And just because its "aircraft quality" doesn't
> necessarily mean its good quality or worth the premium cost. That's being
> said, most of the components I've been getting on for the RV-8 project in
> circa 2009 are better overall quality than the stuff I was getting in
> circa 1989 for the RV-4 project.
>
> More specifically to your question, I think I paid something like $825 for
> the Whelen 3-strobe setup with integrated incandescent position lights
> (Van's calls it their "System 6"). Good quality throughout, smaller power
> supply than the circa 1990s system, and it works as advertised.
>
> Another thing to consider when choosing components is the resale
> implications. If you ever go to sell your plane - finished or not - being
> able to say that you have all the "standard", "aircraft-grade" components
> will allow you to demand the highest possible price.
>
> I look at it this way. This is a once-in-a-lifetime, $100k-$150k project
> that I may never get another chance to do in my life. Might as well not
> compromise on any aspects.
>
> My $.02
>
> Matt Dralle
> RV-8 #82880
> Laying Out Carpet Patterns in CAD...
>
>
>
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At 02:29 PM 5/7/2009 Thursday, you wrote:
>
>matt , when your finished with your carpet patterns , sell me a set...james rv
8 n6830v
No problem. We'll see what we can work out. I'm doing a pretty precise layout,
so hopefully the fit will be nearly perfect and more importantly repeatable.
Ask me again in a month or so.
Matt
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Oh great, now you tell me! :-)
I wonder what Van's has to say about the melting issue. Sounds like they're using
the wrong kind of clear plastic to form the lens.
I sure wish that Van's would just go with the older style boss-mount on the tips.
Those seemed like the cat's meow in terms of their ease of installation and
maintenance aspects.
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880
At 04:11 PM 5/7/2009 Thursday, you wrote:
>
>Welcome!
>
>Another thing to consider in the realm of strobes/nav lights is the recent revelation
on VAF that some people have had their wingtip lenses melt from the heat
of the incandescent nav lights (Whelen).
>
>I haven't even flown yet and mine are already starting to melt, just from testing
them! So, before you whip out your Visa card and order the standard Whelen
strobe/nav light kit, consider the new LED nav lights. I'll be buying them
to replace my (brand new) incandescents.
>
>Harrumph.
>
>-- Don McNamara
> N8RV
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com>
>To: <rv8-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:57 PM
>Subject: Re: RV8-List: Lights
>
>
>>
>>
>>At 10:50 AM 5/7/2009 Thursday, you wrote:
>>>Fellow RV8 builders -
>>>
>>>This is my first post (not sure it will even go through?). I'm complete with
Emp/Wings, awaiting my fuselage kit (mid June).
>>>
>>>Looking at lighting options I'm shocked at the cost of postion/strob lights,
particularly the LED type.
>>>
>>>Has anyone considered or is currently using automotive LED lighting?
>>>
>>>Any other low cost options out there?
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>Ken
>>
>>Hi Ken and Welcome!
>>
>>Wait until you start shopping for an engine... Try on $20-30k for basically
what is a VW Bug engine is enough to rankle anyone. Nothing's cheap in this hobby.
And just because its "aircraft quality" doesn't necessarily mean its good
quality or worth the premium cost. That's being said, most of the components
I've been getting on for the RV-8 project in circa 2009 are better overall
quality than the stuff I was getting in circa 1989 for the RV-4 project.
>>
>>More specifically to your question, I think I paid something like $825 for the
Whelen 3-strobe setup with integrated incandescent position lights (Van's calls
it their "System 6"). Good quality throughout, smaller power supply than
the circa 1990s system, and it works as advertised.
>>
>>Another thing to consider when choosing components is the resale implications.
If you ever go to sell your plane - finished or not - being able to say that
you have all the "standard", "aircraft-grade" components will allow you to demand
the highest possible price.
>>
>>I look at it this way. This is a once-in-a-lifetime, $100k-$150k project that
I may never get another chance to do in my life. Might as well not compromise
on any aspects.
>>
>>My $.02
>>
>>Matt Dralle
>>RV-8 #82880
>>Laying Out Carpet Patterns in CAD...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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Just jumping in on this Nav Light conversation.
I paid a bundle for my -10 LED nav lights (impregnated on a circuit
board).
For my 8A I was considering some Green/Red LED Nav lights from eBay.
There are a million of them available.
Any reason why these will not work? $4.00, Free Shipping!
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McNamara
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: RV8-List: Lights
Welcome!
Another thing to consider in the realm of strobes/nav lights is the
recent
revelation on VAF that some people have had their wingtip lenses melt
from
the heat of the incandescent nav lights (Whelen).
I haven't even flown yet and mine are already starting to melt, just
from
testing them! So, before you whip out your Visa card and order the
standard
Whelen strobe/nav light kit, consider the new LED nav lights. I'll be
buying them to replace my (brand new) incandescents.
Harrumph.
-- Don McNamara
N8RV
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: RV8-List: Lights
>
>
> At 10:50 AM 5/7/2009 Thursday, you wrote:
>> Fellow RV8 builders -
>>
>>This is my first post (not sure it will even go through?). I'm
complete
>>with Emp/Wings, awaiting my fuselage kit (mid June).
>>
>>Looking at lighting options I'm shocked at the cost of postion/strob
>>lights, particularly the LED type.
>>
>>Has anyone considered or is currently using automotive LED lighting?
>>
>>Any other low cost options out there?
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Ken
>>
>
> Hi Ken and Welcome!
>
> Wait until you start shopping for an engine... Try on $20-30k for
> basically what is a VW Bug engine is enough to rankle anyone.
Nothing's
> cheap in this hobby. And just because its "aircraft quality" doesn't
> necessarily mean its good quality or worth the premium cost. That's
being
> said, most of the components I've been getting on for the RV-8 project
in
> circa 2009 are better overall quality than the stuff I was getting in
> circa 1989 for the RV-4 project.
>
> More specifically to your question, I think I paid something like $825
for
> the Whelen 3-strobe setup with integrated incandescent position lights
> (Van's calls it their "System 6"). Good quality throughout, smaller
power
> supply than the circa 1990s system, and it works as advertised.
>
> Another thing to consider when choosing components is the resale
> implications. If you ever go to sell your plane - finished or not -
being
> able to say that you have all the "standard", "aircraft-grade"
components
> will allow you to demand the highest possible price.
>
> I look at it this way. This is a once-in-a-lifetime, $100k-$150k
project
> that I may never get another chance to do in my life. Might as well
not
> compromise on any aspects.
>
> My $.02
>
> Matt Dralle
> RV-8 #82880
> Laying Out Carpet Patterns in CAD...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
05/07/09 18:05:00
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You'll definitely want to consider the actual brightness of these. I suspect they
really aren't that bright when compared to the traditional incandescent lights
or even the newer aircraft LED units.
Check the lumens.
Matt
At 06:29 PM 5/7/2009 Thursday, you wrote:
>Just jumping in on this Nav Light conversation.
>I paid a bundle for my -10 LED nav lights (impregnated on a circuit board).
>
>For my 8A I was considering some Green/Red LED Nav lights from eBay. There are
a million of them available.
>Any reason why these will not work? $4.00, Free Shipping!
>
>
>
>
>Robin
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McNamara
>Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:12 PM
>To: rv8-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV8-List: Lights
>
>
>Welcome!
>
>Another thing to consider in the realm of strobes/nav lights is the recent
>revelation on VAF that some people have had their wingtip lenses melt from
>the heat of the incandescent nav lights (Whelen).
>
>I haven't even flown yet and mine are already starting to melt, just from
>testing them! So, before you whip out your Visa card and order the standard
>Whelen strobe/nav light kit, consider the new LED nav lights. I'll be
>buying them to replace my (brand new) incandescents.
>
>Harrumph.
>
>-- Don McNamara
> N8RV
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com>
>To: <rv8-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:57 PM
>Subject: Re: RV8-List: Lights
>
>
>>
>>
>> At 10:50 AM 5/7/2009 Thursday, you wrote:
>>> Fellow RV8 builders -
>>>
>>>This is my first post (not sure it will even go through?). I'm complete
>>>with Emp/Wings, awaiting my fuselage kit (mid June).
>>>
>>>Looking at lighting options I'm shocked at the cost of postion/strob
>>>lights, particularly the LED type.
>>>
>>>Has anyone considered or is currently using automotive LED lighting?
>>>
>>>Any other low cost options out there?
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>Ken
>>>
>>
>> Hi Ken and Welcome!
>>
>> Wait until you start shopping for an engine... Try on $20-30k for
>> basically what is a VW Bug engine is enough to rankle anyone. Nothing's
>> cheap in this hobby. And just because its "aircraft quality" doesn't
>> necessarily mean its good quality or worth the premium cost. That's being
>> said, most of the components I've been getting on for the RV-8 project in
>> circa 2009 are better overall quality than the stuff I was getting in
>> circa 1989 for the RV-4 project.
>>
>> More specifically to your question, I think I paid something like $825 for
>> the Whelen 3-strobe setup with integrated incandescent position lights
>> (Van's calls it their "System 6"). Good quality throughout, smaller power
>> supply than the circa 1990s system, and it works as advertised.
>>
>> Another thing to consider when choosing components is the resale
>> implications. If you ever go to sell your plane - finished or not - being
>> able to say that you have all the "standard", "aircraft-grade" components
>> will allow you to demand the highest possible price.
>>
>> I look at it this way. This is a once-in-a-lifetime, $100k-$150k project
>> that I may never get another chance to do in my life. Might as well not
>> compromise on any aspects.
>>
>> My $.02
>>
>> Matt Dralle
>> RV-8 #82880
>> Laying Out Carpet Patterns in CAD...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>to browse
>Un/Subscription,
>Browse, Chat, FAQ,
>more:
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>
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>
>support!
>
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>
>
>
>
>
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>
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925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
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They are a heck of a lot brighter that the traditional Nav/Strobe
combination like these:
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:02 PM
Subject: RE: RV8-List: Lights
You'll definitely want to consider the actual brightness of these. I
suspect they really aren't that bright when compared to the traditional
incandescent lights or even the newer aircraft LED units.
Check the lumens.
Matt
At 06:29 PM 5/7/2009 Thursday, you wrote:
>Just jumping in on this Nav Light conversation.
>I paid a bundle for my -10 LED nav lights (impregnated on a circuit
board).
>
>For my 8A I was considering some Green/Red LED Nav lights from eBay.
There are a million of them available.
>Any reason why these will not work? $4.00, Free Shipping!
>
>
>
>
>
>Robin
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McNamara
>Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:12 PM
>To: rv8-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV8-List: Lights
>
>
>Welcome!
>
>Another thing to consider in the realm of strobes/nav lights is the
recent
>revelation on VAF that some people have had their wingtip lenses melt
from
>the heat of the incandescent nav lights (Whelen).
>
>I haven't even flown yet and mine are already starting to melt, just
from
>testing them! So, before you whip out your Visa card and order the
standard
>Whelen strobe/nav light kit, consider the new LED nav lights. I'll be
>buying them to replace my (brand new) incandescents.
>
>Harrumph.
>
>-- Don McNamara
> N8RV
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com>
>To: <rv8-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:57 PM
>Subject: Re: RV8-List: Lights
>
>
>>
>>
>> At 10:50 AM 5/7/2009 Thursday, you wrote:
>>> Fellow RV8 builders -
>>>
>>>This is my first post (not sure it will even go through?). I'm
complete
>>>with Emp/Wings, awaiting my fuselage kit (mid June).
>>>
>>>Looking at lighting options I'm shocked at the cost of postion/strob
>>>lights, particularly the LED type.
>>>
>>>Has anyone considered or is currently using automotive LED lighting?
>>>
>>>Any other low cost options out there?
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>Ken
>>>
>>
>> Hi Ken and Welcome!
>>
>> Wait until you start shopping for an engine... Try on $20-30k for
>> basically what is a VW Bug engine is enough to rankle anyone.
Nothing's
>> cheap in this hobby. And just because its "aircraft quality" doesn't
>> necessarily mean its good quality or worth the premium cost. That's
being
>> said, most of the components I've been getting on for the RV-8
project in
>> circa 2009 are better overall quality than the stuff I was getting in
>> circa 1989 for the RV-4 project.
>>
>> More specifically to your question, I think I paid something like
$825 for
>> the Whelen 3-strobe setup with integrated incandescent position
lights
>> (Van's calls it their "System 6"). Good quality throughout, smaller
power
>> supply than the circa 1990s system, and it works as advertised.
>>
>> Another thing to consider when choosing components is the resale
>> implications. If you ever go to sell your plane - finished or not -
being
>> able to say that you have all the "standard", "aircraft-grade"
components
>> will allow you to demand the highest possible price.
>>
>> I look at it this way. This is a once-in-a-lifetime, $100k-$150k
project
>> that I may never get another chance to do in my life. Might as well
not
>> compromise on any aspects.
>>
>> My $.02
>>
>> Matt Dralle
>> RV-8 #82880
>> Laying Out Carpet Patterns in CAD...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>to browse
>Un/Subscription,
>Browse, Chat, FAQ,
>more:
>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV8-List
>
>Web Forums!
>http://forums.matronics.com
>
>support!
>
>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
>
>
>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>270.12.20/2100 - Release Date: 05/07/09 18:05:00
>
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
05/07/09 18:05:00
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Sorry, Matt. Hurts me as much as it does you. ;-)
-- Don
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: RV8-List: Lights
>
> Oh great, now you tell me! :-)
>
> I wonder what Van's has to say about the melting issue. Sounds like
> they're using the wrong kind of clear plastic to form the lens.
>
> I sure wish that Van's would just go with the older style boss-mount on
> the tips. Those seemed like the cat's meow in terms of their ease of
> installation and maintenance aspects.
>
> Matt Dralle
> RV-8 #82880
>
>
> At 04:11 PM 5/7/2009 Thursday, you wrote:
>>
>>Welcome!
>>
>>Another thing to consider in the realm of strobes/nav lights is the recent
>>revelation on VAF that some people have had their wingtip lenses melt from
>>the heat of the incandescent nav lights (Whelen).
>>
>>I haven't even flown yet and mine are already starting to melt, just from
>>testing them! So, before you whip out your Visa card and order the
>>standard Whelen strobe/nav light kit, consider the new LED nav lights.
>>I'll be buying them to replace my (brand new) incandescents.
>>
>>Harrumph.
>>
>>-- Don McNamara
>> N8RV
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com>
>>To: <rv8-list@matronics.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:57 PM
>>Subject: Re: RV8-List: Lights
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>At 10:50 AM 5/7/2009 Thursday, you wrote:
>>>>Fellow RV8 builders -
>>>>
>>>>This is my first post (not sure it will even go through?). I'm complete
>>>>with Emp/Wings, awaiting my fuselage kit (mid June).
>>>>
>>>>Looking at lighting options I'm shocked at the cost of postion/strob
>>>>lights, particularly the LED type.
>>>>
>>>>Has anyone considered or is currently using automotive LED lighting?
>>>>
>>>>Any other low cost options out there?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>Ken
>>>
>>>Hi Ken and Welcome!
>>>
>>>Wait until you start shopping for an engine... Try on $20-30k for
>>>basically what is a VW Bug engine is enough to rankle anyone. Nothing's
>>>cheap in this hobby. And just because its "aircraft quality" doesn't
>>>necessarily mean its good quality or worth the premium cost. That's
>>>being said, most of the components I've been getting on for the RV-8
>>>project in circa 2009 are better overall quality than the stuff I was
>>>getting in circa 1989 for the RV-4 project.
>>>
>>>More specifically to your question, I think I paid something like $825
>>>for the Whelen 3-strobe setup with integrated incandescent position
>>>lights (Van's calls it their "System 6"). Good quality throughout,
>>>smaller power supply than the circa 1990s system, and it works as
>>>advertised.
>>>
>>>Another thing to consider when choosing components is the resale
>>>implications. If you ever go to sell your plane - finished or not -
>>>being able to say that you have all the "standard", "aircraft-grade"
>>>components will allow you to demand the highest possible price.
>>>
>>>I look at it this way. This is a once-in-a-lifetime, $100k-$150k project
>>>that I may never get another chance to do in my life. Might as well not
>>>compromise on any aspects.
>>>
>>>My $.02
>>>
>>>Matt Dralle
>>>RV-8 #82880
>>>Laying Out Carpet Patterns in CAD...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
> 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
> http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
>
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